Zabuza VS BM Choji

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Zabuza VS BM Choji
location; destroyed konoha
intent; to kill
intel; manga
restrictions; none
 

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Taking the young Akimichi's into consideration, Chōji Akimichi triumphs in this battle.
 

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Chouji with no BM cloak takes this.

Zabuza has no way of countering this:
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Chouji with no BM cloak takes this.

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Bm is not bijuu mode it's butterfly mode in this case for choji
 

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Chouji could actually take this, it's medium difficulty at best. But, lets not underrastimate Zabuza, could be high difficulty.
 

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Choji is slow, Zabuza is fast. He can cut off his fat legs. :cool:
 

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Not even Shanney could deny this outcome.
 

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Eh Zabuza's suitons were pretty large .. could knock even a big chouji on his ass but im chouji wins more times then not
 

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BM Chouji is likely faster than Zabuza as well.

Zabuza's not that fast anyway.
 

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BM Chouji is likely faster than Zabuza as well.

Zabuza's not that fast anyway.

Zabuza is almost as fast as kakashi, who's pretty fast..

Choji wins low diff
 

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Choji wins med difficulty.
 

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Zabuza is almost as fast as kakashi, who's pretty fast..

Choji wins low diff

Almost as fast as Wave Arc Kakashi*, who was much slower than current Kakashi, some 600 chapters later.
 

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Not even Shanney could deny this outcome.

I'm not too positive with this match like I am with my other ones. Like I'm positive Zabuza could beat Darui and Kitsuchi(I'll debate Kitsuchi with u), but Zabuza may lose to Chouji.

Do u think that if Zabuza made a dozen Water Clones and hidden in the mist, they constantly impaled Chouji's body that with Choujji getting cut everywhere, he would lose control of his Expansion Jutsu? Lets think here, Chouji's body expanding is due to chakra right? If Zabuza kept slicing him up, do u think it would make it hard for Chouji to focus on his chakra to remain in that form? Because if he can't and goes back to normal he loses.

What do u think? Because I'm not even sure
 

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Eh Zabuza's suitons were pretty large .. could knock even a big chouji on his ass but im chouji wins more times then not

Zabuza has no water source here. His offensive suiton jutsu were used with a water source.

Zabuza is out of luck here. He doesn't have a water source, Chouji's size alone would make it near impossible for Zabuza to cut all the way through, at least not before Chouji could react. Plus, his wings in butterfly mode could probably blow away the mist.

Just a terrible matchup for Zabuza.
 

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Zabuza has no water source here. His offensive suiton jutsu were used with a water source.

Zabuza is out of luck here. He doesn't have a water source, Chouji's size alone would make it near impossible for Zabuza to cut all the way through, at least not before Chouji could react. Plus, his wings in butterfly mode could probably blow away the mist.

Just a terrible matchup for Zabuza.

Dude read my reply to this thread. I may be on to something but idk. And Zabuza can more than likely create his own source. Lets be logical here, Fodders were able to use Water Wall, a B-rank tech. If Fodders can make there own water, then Zabuza definitely can. I mean, Zabuza was shown to use A-rank Suiton and Water Wall is a B-rank, clearly he has the skill to use it. Water Trumpet, a C-rank tech considered a BASIC Suiton requires the user to expel their own water from their mouth. It wouldn't be basic if doing so was hard.

I mean come on dude, you're a smart guy, isn't it pretty obvious Zabuza can make his own water? I mean, Suiton is his affinity and he is above fodder level
 

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Dude read my reply to this thread. I may be on to something but idk. And Zabuza can more than likely create his own source. Lets be logical here, Fodders were able to use Water Wall, a B-rank tech. If Fodders can make there own water, then Zabuza definitely can. I mean, Zabuza was shown to use A-rank Suiton and Water Wall is a B-rank, clearly he has the skill to use it. Water Trumpet, a C-rank tech considered a BASIC Suiton requires the user to expel their own water from their mouth. It wouldn't be basic if doing so was hard.

I mean come on dude, you're a smart guy, isn't it pretty obvious Zabuza can make his own water? I mean, Suiton is his affinity and he is above fodder level

While you would expect him to be able to going off of part 2's power scaling, it's hard to estimate which techniques he would be capable of without a source. It's speculation at that point.

You'd have to find some middle ground with someone on what they're willing to give Zabuza. Does he get Kisame-level feats with suiton? Mei? Just give him the ability to use Suijinheki without one(it's all Kakashi and Darui have shown without a source)?

On top of that, one of Zabuza's techniques that he showed with a source, and the only one that would probably do anything to Chouji(Daibakufu) seems to be impossible without a source. You would have to have Kisame-level feats of creating any amount of water you please from your mouth to pull that off without a pre-existing source.

Zabuza lacks the firepower, giving him the ability to create his own suiton or not, to take out Chouji. Creating that many clones could backfire pretty quickly, especially if Chouji blows away the mist. You're exhausting a lot of Zabuza's chakra at that point.

To fight someone of Chouji's size, you need a some kind of high powered piercing jutsu/weapon(like kusanagi, raiden, raiton-infused weapons, etc), pure strength(like Kakuzu, or someone with gates, summons, etc), or hacked techniques(susanoo, amaterasu, shinra tensei, etc).

If you restrict Chouji to his base size, Zabuza would probably be able to take care of it with silent killing, even with Chouji having his BM. It's just the size that's an issue here.
 
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