Obito isn't the Brightest Tool in the Shed

[Nidds]

Alright, during the battle between Naruto and Pein, Naruto meets up with the real Pein. After extensive TNJ, he finally convinces Nagato to perform Rinne Tensei and revive those who had died in the attack on Konoha. Before he did this Konan had something to say about it

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What does that mean? Well, Konan just basically said that at his condition he would die reviving numerous shinobi (Kage-level ones like Kakashi as well) who had died in the battlefield using Rinne Tensei. And he still had time to say some final words after that massive chakra drain of a jutsu anyways. What does that mean if he was in a good condition, he would pull it off and live? Looks like it

Now, fast forward to Obito in the latest chapter, who has just now started using Rinne Tensei. As he is about to, he thinks about Rin. Rin, whose death in the hands of Kakashi is the reason why he despises the current Shinobi system and wants to change it.

This begs the following questions

Out of all the times he could have done it with a substantially higher chakra level in the war, despite the fact Madara is forcing him to do it, he does it now in his piss poor almost-dead condition?

Judging by the fact he was thinking about Rin, it's likely he will do it and Rin might come back to life as well as Madara. And he might do it at the cost of his life when he could have done all this, you know in the beginning of the war with full chakra reserves and potentially live. Sad way to go if it happens =(

 

[Moegi of Akatsuki]

why would he revive rin? he wouldn't even get to tap her booty if he were to do that because he's pretty much dying
and i think obito came back to the battlefield to become the juubi's jinchuriki not revive madara

 

[Made in Heaven]

Reviving ANYONE would have caused him to die, since his chakra level is low for rennie tensei no matter what, which he didn't want. BUT if he IS going to die reviving SOMEONE, he'd rather it be Rin than Madara.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

It was the plan from the start to have Obito use Rinne Tensei on Madara to revive him for jinchurikiship, knowing the risk that he would die from it.

 

[Imperfect]

Nagato was an Uzumaki, and thus had a greater "life force" or vitality, as well as control over 2 Rinnegan and experience with the 6 Paths. Obito is an Uchiha who only has 1 Rinnegan and therefore would have to strain to perform the technique and has less vitality than Nagato, and almost no experience with the 6 Paths.

This evidence alone shows that Nagato was better at controlling the Rinnegan and why it would kill Obito.

 

[Lord of the Kings]

I saw Konan's epic boob right there on the beginning of the page

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Reviving rin does nothing to help win this war or to realize his dream.

nagato is different from obito

nagato had naturally outrageous amounts of chakra and had mastery of the rinengan obito does not,he didn't even awaken it himself.Its not like did anything wrong its just not everyone is capable of unlocking it.This goes to show you the gap between him and madara.

 

[GrayParadise]

But... would Rin be bought back to life as a child? If so, that'd be pretty pointless.

And uncomfortable.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Whether or not he planned on bringing madara back he assumed he had the upper hand and madara just proved he didn't.

the thing is madara thought he was going to be brought back and the fact that obito is dying and the juubi is being jumped before its completion is just making madara hasten the process

besides madara needs to be brought back for him to die

 

[The Mentalist]

Reviving ANYONE would have caused him to die, since his chakra level is low for rennie tensei no matter what, which he didn't want. BUT if he IS going to die reviving SOMEONE, he'd rather it be Rin than Madara.

I agree Obito may be evil but not that stupid to get used by Madara,obito will probably bring Neji or Rin.

 

[Xceliency]

But... would Rin be bought back to life as a child? If so, that'd be pretty pointless.

And uncomfortable.

Lol i was thinking the same thing

 

[Nidds]

Reviving rin does nothing to help win this war or to realize his dream.

nagato is different from obito

nagato had naturally outrageous amounts of chakra and had mastery of the rinengan obito does not,he didn't even awaken it himself.Its not like did anything wrong its just not everyone is capable of unlocking it.This goes to show you the gap between him and madara.

I guess so, but does Obito really have that bad of a chance of reviving Madara at the expense of his life had he had done it in the beginning of the war itself? His chakra reserves can't be that terrible if he controlled 6 bijuus

 

[AlphaScythian]

LOL it would be epic **** you madara if he revived rin XD
It would kinda redeem kishi a little after such crap

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I guess so, but does Obito really have that bad of a chance of reviving Madara at the expense of his life had he had done it in the beginning of the war itself? His chakra reserves can't be that terrible if he controlled 6 bijuus

Its not about the amount of chakra per'say he also had the rinnegan,senju dna and madara's will specifically to control the bijuu

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I agree Obito may be evil but not that stupid to get used by Madara,obito will probably bring Neji or Rin.

then what do you called whats being done to him now ?

If madara's will was crucial to controlling tailed beast what makes you think obito can break it ? Or even a near death obito ?

 

[AlphaScythian]

then what do you called whats being done to him now ?
If madara's will was crucial to controlling tailed beast what makes you think obito can break it ? Or even a near death obito ?

How was madara's will crucial there? Rods were stated to bind biju chakra to ex-jins which was the primary job. Rods do act as control tool due to users chakra and not madara's will. Dont make shit up.

Obito himself is uchiha, we dont know the extend of his will but his determination is based by how far he has come.
I do expect partial resistance at very least from obito if not total. We've seen edo tensei released and broken by feelings and will. We've seen near dead itachi and kimimaru fight. We've seen sasuke braking binding mark of danzo and ****ing orochimaru in his dimension. We've seen naruto resisting nagato's rod from close distance.

Dont underestimate the power of feels in this manga, especially obito's in relation to rin!

 

[mikeeozua]

How was madara's will crucial there? Rods were stated to bind biju chakra to ex-jins which was the primary job. Rods do act as control tool due to users chakra and not madara's will. Dont make shit up.

Obito himself is uchiha, we dont know the extend of his will but his determination is based by how far he has come.
I do expect partial resistance at very least from obito if not total. We've seen edo tensei released and broken by feelings and will. We've seen near dead itachi and kimimaru fight. We've seen sasuke braking binding mark of danzo and ****ing orochimaru in his dimension. We've seen naruto resisting nagato's rod from close distance.

Dont underestimate the power of feels in this manga, especially obito's in relation to rin!

Obito probablty will resist it,
Off topic: does that mean that Madara could have done the same thing to Nagato since he had the black rods as well?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Obito probablty will resist it,
Off topic: does that mean that Madara could have done the same thing to Nagato since he had the black rods as well?

Obviously dead madara couldnt control neither obito neither nagato, but if he was alive then yes.
Obito most likely was aware of it and didnt plan on reviving marada but kabuto played his role here for the the plot sake.

 

[Neonian]

He's a weakling and a pawnd.