This means that kakashi doesn't have sharingan either. Considering he and obito had the same eye and kamui was no longer a factor, sharingan was essentially cancelled out in that fight. Therefore, this thread is whether;
Base kakashi > Base-ish Hashirama and Base Madara.
If you give kakashi kamui or even sharingan, the thread is biased.
ugh... Hashi without hax cells makes no sense. You're taking away his mokuton? Uhm... Not sure what else he can use apart from that seeing as we've never seen the quality of his doton or suiton. So hashi is just err... He might win, he did show good taijutsu against madara as a kid. Madara did say he was stronger than him, and madara was killing adults without his sharingan... as a kid.
Madara without sharingan powers? That means kakashi doesn't have them too seeing as the sharingans in that fight cancelled out each other (don't try to be biased now), therefore, Base Madara >>>> Base Kakashi.
Kakashi canonically can't use raikiri well without sharingan seeing as he's moving too fast for his own good so he can't properly see the opponents counter.
EDIT: Remember, Obito essentially lost against Base kakashi. Not even f*cking zabuza lost to base kakashi. Zabuza even beat and smacked around sharingan kakashi but obito, a supposed main anatagonist, gets fodderized? The guy clearly sucks massive balls without kamui crutch. Even Start of shippuuden base naruto and sakura made kakashi use his sharingan and made him sweat. That's just utterly disgraceful.
