The Great Tobi

[King Nasus]

Hello friends,

I have noticed our community has split apart between this chapter. Some argue that obito was trolled while others argue kakshi had the advantage in that dimension. I can see that kakshi had the advantage of kyubi chakara and obito did not. What i cant understand is the person who destroyed over 100 mist shinobi at the age of (12-14) The person who minato couldnt kill at that age? DID YOU GUYS NOT SEE how obito killed danzos body guards? Lets say for some reason he was unable to use his eye technique to slip through things. THAT doesnt explain why he couldnt use other ninja techniques like izanagi or izanama. Dont tell me he didnt know any of those techniques he USED izanagi against konan and he watched sauske and danzo fight and spoke about the powers of izanagi. The Guy who had a laboratory of sharingans was defeated by kakshi. The Guy who knew the powers of the sixth of paths and the guy who told madara he is not his pawn. The guy who control several beasts and gave naruto guy kakshi a hard time was defeated!

THE GUY WHO Stole THE RINNEGAN WAS DEFEATED. The person who manipulated pain, the person who breached through konoha security to get inside the village was defeated. The person who summoned the gedo mazu!

What do you think was he trolled?

 

[Edward]

I agree, i mean obito shouldve continued with far-ranged jutsus. He had the rinnegan and wood style, as well as izanagi and izanama. Cant believe he didnt use a single one, he wouldve been able to win mid-difficulty.

 

[BaseIsBest]

Just remember Obito has been fighting this whole time not just against Kakashi, he was already fatigued.

 

[King Nasus]

Just remember Obito has been fighting this whole time not just against Kakashi, he was already fatigued.

"the fatigue explains everything it seems"

One amestrasu would have done it. I would believe he would be capable of such jutsu because he helped sauske achieve it.

 

[will305]

someone is in a rush lol

 

[BaseIsBest]

"the fatigue explains everything it seems"

One amestrasu would have done it. I would believe he would be capable of such jutsu because he helped sauske achieve it.

Why yes, yes it does.

 

[Edward]

even so, for obito to go down that easily against a weakened kakashi is.. unexpected. and lol @ the genjutsu in the beginning, who else fell for it? xD

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Just remember Obito has been fighting this whole time not just against Kakashi, he was already fatigued.

So was Kakashi

 

[King Nasus]

I thought the whole chapter was genjutsu pulled by obito!

 

[Everztar]

HE DIDNT HAVE CHAKRA. Period.

 

[King Nasus]

HE DIDNT HAVE CHAKRA. Period.

Acutely it wasn't event implied he didnt have chakara. so i dont know where your evidence is coming from. A moment ago he was connected to the jubi

 

[Everztar]

I agree, i mean obito shouldve continued with far-ranged jutsus. He had the rinnegan and wood style, as well as izanagi and izanama. Cant believe he didnt use a single one, he wouldve been able to win mid-difficulty.

He doesn't have anybof these when he doesn't have chakra for it

 

[King Nasus]

He doesn't have anybof these when he doesn't have chakra for it

No evidence of with out chakara!

 

[Everztar]

Acutely it wasn't event implied he didnt have chakara. so i dont know where your evidence is coming from. A moment ago he was connected to the jubi

It is pretty obvious? Why else would he go hand to hand combat with someone far superior in taijutsu? Obito isn't good with taijutsu if he can't use Kamui...

 

[King Nasus]

It is pretty obvious? Why else would he go hand to hand combat with someone far superior in taijutsu? Obito isn't good with taijutsu if he can't use Kamui...

Okay so you know that obito pulled kakshi in his dimension not the other way around. That says a lot right there.

 

[sagedog]

Where do I start. Lets just say that fight could have used another two chapters. All that build up for what....that!

 

[vickmontero]

He was already feeling emotional, his heart has been touched by his friends and he was having double mind

 

[MangekyoTobi]

His defeat was insanely anticlimactic especially given all the things he's done in the past and is capable of.

 

[TaBaYo]

Hello friends,

I have noticed our community has split apart between this chapter. Some argue that obito was trolled while others argue kakshi had the advantage in that dimension. I can see that kakshi had the advantage of kyubi chakara and obito did not. What i cant understand is the person who destroyed over 100 mist shinobi at the age of (12-14) The person who minato couldnt kill at that age? DID YOU GUYS NOT SEE how obito killed danzos body guards? Lets say for some reason he was unable to use his eye technique to slip through things. THAT doesnt explain why he couldnt use other ninja techniques like izanagi or izanama. Dont tell me he didnt know any of those techniques he USED izanagi against konan and he watched sauske and danzo fight and spoke about the powers of izanagi. The Guy who had a laboratory of sharingans was defeated by kakshi. The Guy who knew the powers of the sixth of paths and the guy who told madara he is not his pawn. The guy who control several beasts and gave naruto guy kakshi a hard time was defeated!

THE GUY WHO Stole THE RINNEGAN WAS DEFEATED. The person who manipulated pain, the person who breached through konoha security to get inside the village was defeated. The person who summoned the gedo mazu!

What do you think was he trolled?

First, guys give a little credit to Kakashi. He stood his ground a little against two Pains and he is not a fodder like the 100 mist ninjas.
Also Minato didnt fight Obito at that age (12-14), Obito was older by that time.
Obitos main advantage in a fight is his Kamui, danjo guys could have had a hit on him if not for the Kamui. So without Kamui, a lot of shinobi stand a chance against him.
In the dimension, Kamui was not working, so all he had was taijutsu and genjustu. Kakshi was able to draw against him in genjustu, i think because of the same eye. For taijutsu, Kakashi has always won against him even when they were children. So IMO, i dont think Kakshi win was a troll. It is justifiable.

In the real world where Kamui is activated, Ibito is strong as as hell, but if Kamui is deactivated, he would be like a normal shinobi.

He couldnt use izanagi bcos then his Kamui eye would die and be disabled. He could have use rinnegan techniques but i dont think he has the chakara for it or its inactive in the Kamui world.

So guys please give Kakashi some credit.

 

[Uchiha Samater]

Man what manga have you been reading

If you want to focus on the stamina issue:

The obvious one out of the way, he has been controlling 7 Bijuu with Rinnegan,
fighting Naruto + Bee + Gai + Hachibi, Relentless use of his Sharingan, Summoned the Ten Tails
When Madara Arrived he kept using high level Katon jutsu and also got tagged a few times by Kakashi when they figured out his Kamui

You can argue Kakashi should be tired, but erm guys, Kurama like souped him up a couple times already

Storyline Issue:

Combine the fact that Obito is clearly conflicted, whether he says it or not, otherwise why would he need to keep justifying himself to Naruto and Kakashi + he was always going to betray Madara or be Betrayed
His death was imminent