Obito Got What He Deserved

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Just as the title says, obito got exactly what he deserved and you can say whatever you want but this is the truth and its not my fault if you cant handle it. He runs from EVERY fight that he starts to have problems with and that is why he's gonna die like this, he couldn't beat kakashi 1v1 so he ran from him and ran straight into madara. And don't give me that BS about kakashi getting healed because obito has senju dna AND obito entered the fight with 7 rinnegan/sharingan jinchurriki paths on his sides, and kakashi couldn't use kamui in the dimension either so its not like kakashi had the advantage. There is no excuse, obito simply lost, deal with it, obito beat kakashi earlier but kakashi got the final win and last laugh.

Obito cant fight without spamming kamui, he's low jounin level (if not lower) without kamui and if you disagree you're obviously a fanboy because this is all manga fact and we are all witnessing it right now in the manga. Obito hasn't done a single thing impressive besides spam kamui every chance he got. He almost lost to konan badly, he had to spam kamui just to beat danzo's bodyguards, and when he fought naruto, killer bee, guy, and kakashi with his paths, he spammed kamui nearly the entire fight, he had 7 jinchuuriki path but still was forced to spam kamui constantly. But don't get me wrong, obito is still top 5 but these last few chapters has proved that obito is not as strong as everyone thinks.

Also I want to say that i've been telling everyone that obito (and madara) cant use his rinnegan 6 paths but everyone didn't want to believe me now its a fact because he obviously wouldve used it against kakashi if he could but he didn't. The only path obito has been confirmed to know how to use is human path (he said he can use it to kabuto) but that's it. RINNEGAN HAS TO BE MASTERED, not just implanted. That's why nagato is top 5/10, he MASTERED the rinnegan.
 

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Obito w/ Kamui rapes nearly everyone in NV.
Obito w/o Kamui, his 6 Jin paths, and his Mokuton is jounin level. That would be the case when you take away OP techniques from top-notch shinobis in NV and you make them fight again after already fighting for 3 days.
 

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I agree but for different reasons, he had this coming because of all the things he has done over the course of the manga.
 

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Obito w/ Kamui rapes nearly everyone in NV.
Obito w/o Kamui, his 6 Jin paths, and his Mokuton is jounin level. That would be the case when you take away OP techniques from top-notch shinobis in NV and you make them fight again after already fighting for 3 days.

obito hasn't been fighting 3 days

I said obito is top 5 with kamui, but without it, he's HORRIBLE
 

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i agree ...he's a being who's neithr male nor female ...he didnt hav both the eyes to fully master sharingan n same in case of rinnegan too
 

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i agree ...he's a being who's neithr male nor female ...he didnt hav both the eyes to fully master sharingan n same in case of rinnegan too

its not that he has one eye, its that you cant just implant eye and expect to be a rinnegan pro like nagato, obito basically just had rinnegan to control the juubi not to fight because he cant full use its power
 

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Sorry, I didn't read your whole post because it's kind of a wall of text :p.

Well, I agree he got what he deserved yes. But I can't help but feel some pity for him.

He had strong beliefs at first.

He then 'died.

Then he got taken in by Madara who kept saying that the shinobi system was shit to make him falter in his beliefs which had no effect until he saw Kakashi kill Rin and at that point Madara's words got through to him and he lost his innocence.

So to me Madara is the reason for everything Obito has done. Kids of the age of for example 12 are easily influenced. Just look at for example terrorist groups. They also brainwash young kids.
 
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...I guess so, but whenever you see someone in such a sorry state you got to feel sorry for them. :]
 

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How do expect Obito to fight properly after all the chakra he wasted.
Controlled jinch, and bijou, fought BM naruto killer bee Kakashi guy, fighting Kakashi again, controlled jubi , fought the ninja alliance, and fought Kakashi again.

He got so tired after wasting all that chakra.
 

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obito hasn't been fighting 3 days

I said obito is top 5 with kamui, but without it, he's HORRIBLE

Kamui is his MS
without MS Itachi,Sasuke are fodder
without Kurama Naruto is fodder
need i go on?
 

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Sorry, I didn't read your whole post because it's kind of a wall of text :p.

Well, I agree he got what he deserved yes. But I can't help but feel some pity for him.

He had strong beliefs at first.

He then 'died.

Then he got taken in by Madara who kept saying that the shinobi system was shit to make him falter in his beliefs which had no effect until he saw Kakashi kill Rin and at that point Madara's words got through to him and he lost his innocence.

So to me Madara is the reason for everything Obito has done. Kids of the age of for example 12 are easily influenced. Just look at for example terrorist groups. They also brainwash young kids.

...I guess so, but whenever you see someone in such a sorry state you got to feel sorry for them. :]

I do have pity for him, I didn't think he was gonna be put in this situation so suddenly but this is the cold truth
 

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Who said it had to be mastered? And if so madara and obito shouldn't have no problem mastering it quickly I remember a 16 year old sasuke mastering his MS in one battle. Why should it take one legendary shinobi and and a kage level shinobi a lot of time to master it. Nagato was young when he got his rinnegan
 

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How do expect Obito to fight properly after all the chakra he wasted.
Controlled jinch, and bijou, fought BM naruto killer bee Kakashi guy, fighting Kakashi again, controlled jubi , fought the ninja alliance, and fought Kakashi again.

He got so tired after wasting all that chakra.

his chakra didn't look wasted to me, he JUST used fire attacks, and spammed genjutsu with kakashi AND use kamui to go back to the battlefield, stop making excuses for his lost. Obito wasn't low on chakra he was in PAIN, re-read the chapter, obito wasn't looking so devastated until after kakashi pierced him

kakashi is low on chakra too, kakashi BEEN pass his limit, just deal with the truth for once

Kamui is his MS
without MS Itachi,Sasuke are fodder
without Kurama Naruto is fodder
need i go on?

naruto has sage mode so he isn't fodder

yes uchiha are HORRIBLE without there eyes, and this chapter proved it

but like said, if you actually read, obito is still top 5 with kamui but he isn't as strong as people make him out to be

Who said it had to be mastered? And if so madara and obito shouldn't have no problem mastering it quickly I remember a 16 year old sasuke mastering his MS in one battle. Why should it take one legendary shinobi and and a kage level shinobi a lot of time to master it. Nagato was young when he got his rinnegan

well tell me this

why didn't obito use a single rinnegan ability during the fight?? ill wait
 

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Vertually the entire Uchiha clan without the Sharingan are fodder. In fact, their taijutsu feats only come from the Sharingan's ability to predict and copy with great clarity the opponents moves.

Madara might be the one exception because he took on Hashirama's clone without the use of the Sharingan and won.
 

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Vertually the entire Uchiha clan without the Sharingan are fodder. In fact, their taijutsu feats only come from the Sharingan's ability to predict and copy with great clarity the opponents moves.

Madara might be the one exception because he took on Hashirama's clone without the use of the Sharingan and won.

.....didn't madara pierce the clone with susano, a sharingan ability??
 

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.....didn't madara pierce the clone with susano, a sharingan ability??

Battle before he got the Rinnigan, when he first "died". Madara in this chapter confirmed that the more clones Hashirama uses, the less effective they are. So just one clone probably was a tough opponent for most ninja.
 

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.....didn't madara pierce the clone with susano, a sharingan ability??

I think he meant in the fight at the valley of the end, when they ran towards each other with their swords.
 

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Battle before he got the Rinnigan, when he first "died". Madara in this chapter confirmed that the more clones Hashirama uses, the less effective they are. So just one clone probably was a tough opponent for most ninja.

well idk but ok, its just a clone, madara killing a clone without his sharingan isn't much to smile at, js
 
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