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[TheTailedSage]

Ok so it was stated that Naruto KM clones are kage level right? well i just though about this. Minato Also has KM and should have kage level clones. He must have clones because you cant even become genin in the leaf village without doing at least 1 successful clone (edited).

It was also said that only people of kage level can do this barrier on the juubi correct? well minato knows this and has unlimited chakra due to edo tensei and KM chakra so is there a reason why he couldn't do at least one clone to sub for the hokage? it saves time and kages. Think about it if he had those clones doing the barrier then the other hokage could be helping the allied shinobi force.

And dont tell me He cant do it because if the shadow clone rule was bull then hiruzen and hashirama wouldn't be able to do some form of clone

 

[Asu Be]

Plot No Jutsu man . its kishi ultimate jutsu lol

 

[The Necromancer]

Lee graduated the academy. You don't need to perform jutsu to graduate. Also it's a regular clone, not a shadow clone.

 

[Henchman24]

Ok so it was stated that Naruto KM clones are kage level right? well i just though about this. Minato Also has KM and should have kage level clones. He must have clones because you cant even become genin in the leaf village without doing at least 1 successful shadow clone.

It was also said that only people of kage level can do this barrier on the juubi correct? well minato knows this and has unlimited chakra due to edo tensei and KM chakra so is there a reason why he couldn't do at least one clone to sub for the hokage? it saves time and kages. Think about it if he had those clones doing the barrier then the other hokage could be helping the allied shinobi force.

And dont tell me He cant do it because if the shadow clone rule was bull then hiruzen and hashirama wouldn't be able to do some form of clone

Incorrect. Shadow Clone is a forbidden jutsu. Naruto learned it from the scroll he took. What you mean is just the regular clone jutsu. The difference between clone jutsu and shadow clone is that shadow clone has physical substance and clone jutsu does not.

 

[CloakedDeception]

Ok so it was stated that Naruto KM clones are kage level right? well i just though about this. Minato Also has KM and should have kage level clones. He must have clones because you cant even become genin in the leaf village without doing at least 1 successful shadow clone.

The bolded statement is incorrect. To become a genin, they need to be able to use Clone Jutsu, which is NOT the Shadow Clone Jutsu. Even then, there were exceptions around it. Like Rock Lee and Naruto.

It was also said that only people of kage level can do this barrier on the juubi correct? well minato knows this and has unlimited chakra due to edo tensei and KM chakra so is there a reason why he couldn't do at least one clone to sub for the hokage? it saves time and kages. Think about it if he had those clones doing the barrier then the other hokage could be helping the allied shinobi force.

And dont tell me He cant do it because if the shadow clone rule was bull then hiruzen and hashirama wouldn't be able to do some form of clone

Hashirama already sent out Wood Clones to help the Alliance and even one to engage Madara. I'm guessing the other Kage don't want to split their strength by using clones.
But I do agree with you though. 4 clones holding barrier + 4 free Hokage >>> 4 occupied Hokage + 4 free clones.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Lee graduated the academy. You don't need to perform jutsu to graduate. Also it's a regular clone, not a shadow clone.

Yeah because he couldnt do it due to having no talent in nin or genjutsu

Plot. Kishi is a bad writer when it comes to logic.

That was a huge hole he made :T but he never seems to fail i suppose xD

Incorrect. Shadow Clone is a forbidden jutsu. Naruto learned it from the scroll he took. What you mean is just the regular clone jutsu. The difference between clone jutsu and shadow clone is that shadow clone has physical substance and clone jutsu does not.

Isnt it multi shadow clone technique is forbidden. and i may be wrong about the them learning a "shadow clone" but the fact they learn how to make a clone says it all. If they can do that much they should be able to do a tangible clone. Show me a scan of a clone not being tangible

 

[RNITBmsage]

logic + naruto = no

 

[TheTailedSage]

The bolded statement is incorrect. To become a genin, they need to be able to use Clone Jutsu, which is NOT the Shadow Clone Jutsu. Even then, there were exceptions around it. Like Rock Lee and Naruto.



Hashirama already sent out Wood Clones to help the Alliance and even one to engage Madara. I'm guessing the other Kage don't want to split their strength by using clones.
But I do agree with you though. 4 clones holding barrier + 4 free Hokage >>> 4 occupied Hokage + 4 free clones.

Yeah, someone pointed out my error but thanks anyway and i do get what your saying
But wouldnt that be more strategic and preservative? I dunno, kishi just cuts around bushes that dont need to be cut around but we will have to wait what happens next

Plot. Kishi is a bad writer when it comes to logic.

That was a huge hole he made :T but he never seems to fail i suppose xD

 

[KingHashirama]

KM Clones were never stated to be Hokage level.. that was a assumption made by fans like me.

And He would need to release the barrier to do it.. not to mention hes using the KCM Chakra to strength the barrier. o-o.

 

[Henchman24]

Hashirama already sent out Wood Clones to help the Alliance and even one to engage Madara. I'm guessing the other Kage don't want to split their strength by using clones.
But I do agree with you though. 4 clones holding barrier + 4 free Hokage >>> 4 occupied Hokage + 4 free clones.

I disagree. If they used clones to hold the barrier it would become easier for an enemy to take out the barrier. Clones are defeated much easier then real people. If one clone gets taken out the barrier will weaken and the Juubi could escape.

 

[Henchman24]

Yeah because he couldnt do it due to having no talent in nin or genjutsu



That was a huge hole he made :T but he never seems to fail i suppose xD



Isnt it multi shadow clone technique is forbidden. and i may be wrong about the them learning a "shadow clone" but the fact they learn how to make a clone says it all. If they can do that much they should be able to do a tangible clone. Show me a scan of a clone not being tangible

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i am fishing for a manga scan but for now there is this.

The thing is to make a tangible clone you neeed to know either shadow clone, wood clone, water clone, lightning clone, bug clone. All of those are tangible. Simple clone jutsu is not.

 

[TheTailedSage]

I disagree. If they used clones to hold the barrier it would become easier for an enemy to take out the barrier. Clones are defeated much easier then real people. If one clone gets taken out the barrier will weaken and the Juubi could escape.

Who is exactly going to attack the clones though? madara isnt interested and obito is in kamui

KM Clones were never stated to be Hokage level.. that was a assumption made by fans like me.

And He would need to release the barrier to do it.. not to mention hes using the KCM Chakra to strength the barrier. o-o.

But he has unlimited chakra though, it should be a problem right?

 

[TheTailedSage]

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i am fishing for a manga scan but for now there is this.

Well thanks for the proof xD you learn something everyday huh

 

[KingHashirama]

But he has unlimited chakra though, it should be a problem right?

Your not getting it. They have unlimited chakra yes..... but that doesn't = Strong chakra.

 

[End of Days]

Right now its the new generation time to shine, thats why you see hashirama praising sakura, minato praising Naruto's FRS, hiruzen saying that a new era has come when seeing team 7 and tobirama praising sasuke's kagutsuchi

So no, hokages will not be fighting at least for now

As for whether Minato can do Kage bunshin or not, i am certain he can do it, he has been said to a genius and its absurd to argue that he cant do it or he didnt spend time on it
Tajuu kage bunshin is forbidden kage bunshin is not

Jiraiya also never used kage bunshin until the very last fight, no one spams it like naruto
This student-teacher line which hints that minato can do it as all of them have used it barring him, he just has to show us

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[KingHashirama]

Also notice how Minato truned KCM specially when they were going to do the barrier.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Also notice how Minato truned KCM specially when they were going to do the barrier.

Because he needed to upgrade his chakra to a stronger level.

Right now its the new generation time to shine, thats why you see hashirama praising sakura, minato praising Naruto's FRS, hiruzen saying that a new era has come when seeing team 7 and tobirama praising sasuke's kagutsuchi

So no, hokages will not be fighting at least for now

As for whether Minato can do Kage bunshin or not, i am certain he can do it, he has been said to a genius and its absurd to argue that he cant do it or he didnt apend time on it
Tajuu kage bunshin is forbidden kage bunshin is not

Jiraiya also never used kage bunshin until the very last fight, no one spams it like naruto
This student-teacher line which hints that minato can do it as all of them have used it barring him, he just has to show us

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See? i knew kage bushin wasn't forbidden just like i said. and well naruto is famous for the kage bushin :s no surprise there but your right, i want to see him use it!

Your not getting it. They have unlimited chakra yes..... but that doesn't = Strong chakra.

Agreeed there but this principle doesnt occur to minato due to KM enhanced chakra so his one is stronger

 

[Henchman24]

Who is exactly going to attack the clones though? madara isnt interested and obito is in kamui



But he has unlimited chakra though, it should be a problem right?

Madara could change his mind and attack. The Kages need to be prepared for anything.

 

[Henchman24]

Because he needed to upgrade his chakra to a stronger level.



See? i knew kage bushin wasn't forbidden just like i said. and well naruto is famous for the kage bushin :s no surprise there but your right, i want to see him use it!



Agreeed there but this principle doesnt occur to minato due to KM enhanced chakra so his one is stronger

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"dangerous scrolls forbidden by the previous hokage". everything in that scroll is forbidden making shadow clone a forbidden jutsu.

 

[TheTailedSage]

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"dangerous scrolls forbidden by the previous hokage". everything in that scroll is forbidden making shadow clone a forbidden jutsu.

Thats Multi-shadow clone thats in thee scroll

Madara could change his mind and attack. The Kages need to be prepared for anything.

I doubt that very highly, Madara isnt the type to do surprise attacks like that. His one and only interest from the start was hashi