So Kabuto>Hashirama with/without edos?

[HiddenSound]

Er, Kimimaro has impressive regeneration/generation feats too. And he is included. Kabuto's bones themselves could be hardened by the Kaguya bloodline...

This also 1111111

 

[Miley]

noone ever said Kabuto without Edos > Hashirama
is this a troll thread in order to disgrace Kabuto or are you just stupid enough to think without EdoTensei he doesn't get stomped hard?

 

[Deadai]

noone ever said Kabuto without Edos > Hashirama
is this a troll thread in order to disgrace Kabuto or are you just stupid enough to think without EdoTensei he doesn't get stomped hard?

I have said such and I don't see why its so hard to believe. From what we have seen Kabuto shouldn't have much trouble slipping through Hashirama's Makuton and from there in close range combat Kabuto has the advantage.

 

[KingHashirama]

1. Oh my god, you just showed that DSM Kabuto's opinion is not absolute with your first statement. Thanks for helping my side of the argument :I

2. What's your point with Edo Madara? Either way, Hashirama is not taking out Edo Madara, who is already pretty much more powerful than he is, plus DSM Kabuto, plus Edo Mu, plus Edo Deidara, plus Edo Itachi, plus Edo Nagato, etc.

3. So... What you're saying is that Kabuto magically changed his opinion of invincibility out of nowhere?

You can't counter Kabuto's abilities and Edos with Hashirama's abilities, you can only rely on the opinion of someone who's opinions can obviously be proven wrong.

Kabuto could just summon Edo Madara to fight Hashirama, sit back and watch the fireworks, and if Madara needs help, just summon Edo Nagato and Edo Itachi to help him out.
Edo army > Any single individual but the Sage.

1.Incorrect you did not show that. My statement was about how Kabuto compared himself to another Shinobi.....yours was not. Mines was updated.. yours was before mines..... making your statement irrelevent.

2. Edo Madara = not Kabuto's power. Muu and etc.. are really nothing in comparison to Hashirama..... Even your beloved Kabuto... As I have stated before.. its only people with destructive forces like Perfect Susano'o that stand a chance against the Shodai.

3. I'm saying Kabuto said hes weaker then Hashirama.. so no point saying Hashirama is weaker. =]

The fact that Kabuto needs help kind of shows hes not Hashirama's level. ^_^

I have said such and I don't see why its so hard to believe. From what we have seen Kabuto shouldn't have much trouble slipping through Hashirama's Makuton and from there in close range combat Kabuto has the advantage.

@bold and Underline..... because Hashirama has the second strongest feat after the Sage's... He single handedly put down the Juubi so the alliance can attack it.

On Top of that Hashirama can make his wood clones do his work.... <<<< Hashirama is simply the strongest underrated character... lmao. His simplest jutsu is underrated. X_X.

 

[Fodder#4]

I have said such and I don't see why its so hard to believe. From what we have seen Kabuto shouldn't have much trouble slipping through Hashirama's Makuton and from there in close range combat Kabuto has the advantage.

While I think it would be a bit harder, yeah. Kabuto DOES have the potential to defeat Hashirama without Edo's. It depends if he can get the snake venom into Hashirama in time or not.

Basically, I agree!

 

[Prince Charles]

Dsm kabuto can take this with extreme diff imo, but the majority of the time hashirama comes out on top. I don''t understand why people say kabuto gets rolfstomped when most likely nothing in hashiramas arsenal so far isnt harming dsm kabuto due to his regeneration abilities. Not too mention he made a poison for hashiramas mukoton.

 

[Deadai]

While I think it would be a bit harder, yeah. Kabuto DOES have the potential to defeat Hashirama without Edo's. It depends if he can get the snake venom into Hashirama in time or not.

Basically, I agree!

If Kabuto gets that Makuton suppression venom in Hashirama the guy is pretty screwd seeing as how allot Hashirama's big name jutsu are Makuton based. I am sure the fight is going to be more difficult then the way I am wording it but yeah Kabuto should still end up on top.

 

[Fodder#4]

If Kabuto gets that Makuton suppression venom in Hashirama the guy is pretty screwd seeing as how allot Hashirama's big name jutsu are Makuton based. I am sure the fight is going to be more difficult then the way I am wording it but yeah Kabuto should still end up on top.

It would require a lot of work to get that close, but Kabuto could really pull it off once he makes it into Sage Mode.

 

[KingHashirama]

Dsm kabuto can take this with extreme diff imo, but the majority of the time hashirama comes out on top. I don''t understand why people say kabuto gets rolfstomped when most likely nothing in hashiramas arsenal so far is harming dsm kabuto due to his regeneration abilities. Not too mention he made a poison for hashiramas mukoton.

Hashirama's "powerscale".. is pathetic compared to Naruto's or Madara's..... let alone you compare him to Hashirama.

Guy with more fighting experience... guy who is skilled in weapons... taijutsu.. genjutsu... ninjutsu.. kenjutsu... and just put the juubi down... i'm pretty sure is higher attire.. Though how can Kabuto beat him when according to him hes not on Hashirama's level.

 

[HiddenSound]

1.Incorrect you did not show that. My statement was about how Kabuto compared himself to another Shinobi.....yours was not. Mines was updated.. yours was before mines..... making your statement irrelevent.

2. Edo Madara = not Kabuto's power. Muu and etc.. are really nothing in comparison to Hashirama..... Even your beloved Kabuto... As I have stated before.. its only people with destructive forces like Perfect Susano'o that stand a chance against the Shodai.

3. I'm saying Kabuto said hes weaker then Hashirama.. so no point saying Hashirama is weaker. =]

The fact that Kabuto needs help kind of shows hes not Hashirama's level. ^_^

1. Kabuto said he's invincible. You said his opinion of the Sage and Hashi, then said he got Izanamied some chapters later. Therefore, Kabuto's opinion is not absolute. Besides, even if it were, I bet it's Kabuto's opinion that Edo Madara is now at Hashirama's level or higher.

2. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER YOU THINK IT IS HIS POWER OR NOT. KABUTO IN HIS PRIME CAN USE EDO MADARA AND HIS OTHER EDOS WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. SWEET JESUS....

3. Perhaps Kabuto alone is weaker than Hashirama, but Kabuto with his Edos beats him.

Do you have no concept of "swarming"? Edo Madara plus everyone else is far than enough to beat Hashi.
And Kabuto said he's invincible and closer to the Sage than anyone else, so there goes that point

Look, you're just repeating yourself over and over again, and knowing you, this will go nowhere.
I know that Kabuto in his prime is far more powerful than Hashirama in his prime ^_^

Look, it's late and I have a movie to finish. That, and, again, this will go nowhere, so I'm finished. Believe Hashirama > Kabuto if you want, at the end of the day, I don't really care.

 

[Deadai]

Hashirama's "powerscale".. is pathetic compared to Naruto's or Madara's..... let alone you compare him to Hashirama.

Guy with more fighting experience... guy who is skilled in weapons... taijutsu.. genjutsu... ninjutsu.. kenjutsu... and just put the juubi down... i'm pretty sure is higher attire.. Though how can Kabuto beat him when according to him hes not on Hashirama's level.

The underline gave me a good laugh

Give me Taijutsu feats that effect Kabuto
Give me Genjutsu feats that effect Kabuto
Give me Kenjutsu feats that can effect Kabuto

Oh you can't? that's to bad.:|

 

[Prince Charles]

Hashirama's "powerscale".. is pathetic compared to Naruto's or Madara's..... let alone you compare him to Hashirama.

Guy with more fighting experience... guy who is skilled in weapons... taijutsu.. genjutsu... ninjutsu.. kenjutsu... and just put the juubi down... i'm pretty sure is higher attire.. Though how can Kabuto beat him when according to him hes not on Hashirama's level.

I think you wrote that wrong. Anyways fighting experience is hardly a factor here but you can choose to believe it is. Your forgetting kabuto is also skilled in those departments.. You're keeping in mind that Kabuto made a poison for mukoton which plays a key part here. I mean.. have you not seen white rage? Muki tensei? Like i said hashirama takes this the majority of times 8/10 but you cant deny that kabuto can also win. Hashirama would have to seal kabuto because pyshical attacks get countered by body shedding or his regeneration abilities.

 

[Fodder#4]

The underline gave me a good laugh

Give me Taijutsu feats that effect Kabuto
Give me Genjutsu feats that effect Kabuto
Give me Kenjutsu feats that can effect Kabuto

Oh you can't? that's to bad.:|

Damn it DeadAi. . Now he is going to post Kabuto stuck in Izanami ><!

 

[Deadai]

Damn it DeadAi. . Now he is going to post Kabuto stuck in Izanami ><!

But Hashirama does not have Izanami

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[Fodder#4]

But Hashirama does not have Izanami

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Or does he?! xD

Nah, I just read it and was thinking you meant Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, and Genjutsu in total! And then I was getting ready to see that infernal picture of Itachi patting Kabuto on the head -.-

 

[Deadai]

Or does he?! xD

Nah, I just read it and was thinking you meant Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, and Genjutsu in total! And then I was getting ready to see that infernal picture of Itachi patting Kabuto on the head -.-

My face would have turned into an upside down smile if I had seen that cursed scan in relation to my post.:'(

 

[Miley]

Hashirama's "powerscale".. is pathetic compared to Naruto's or Madara's..... let alone you compare him to Hashirama.

Guy with more fighting experience... guy who is skilled in weapons... taijutsu.. genjutsu... ninjutsu.. kenjutsu... and just put the juubi down... i'm pretty sure is higher attire.. Though how can Kabuto beat him when according to him hes not on Hashirama's level.

Edo Itachi > Hashirama
prime Kabuto has Edo Itachi therefore he's >>> Hashirama

 

[KingHashirama]

1. Kabuto said he's invincible. You said his opinion of the Sage and Hashi, then said he got Izanamied some chapters later. Therefore, Kabuto's opinion is not absolute. Besides, even if it were, I bet it's Kabuto's opinion that Edo Madara is now at Hashirama's level or higher.

2. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER YOU THINK IT IS HIS POWER OR NOT. KABUTO IN HIS PRIME CAN USE EDO MADARA AND HIS OTHER EDOS WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. SWEET JESUS....

3. Perhaps Kabuto alone is weaker than Hashirama, but Kabuto with his Edos beats him.

Do you have no concept of "swarming"? Edo Madara plus everyone else is far than enough to beat Hashi.
And Kabuto said he's invincible and closer to the Sage than anyone else, so there goes that point

Look, you're just repeating yourself over and over again, and knowing you, this will go nowhere.
I know that Kabuto in his prime is far more powerful than Hashirama in his prime ^_^

Look, it's late and I have a movie to finish. That, and, again, this will go nowhere, so I'm finished. Believe Hashirama > Kabuto if you want, at the end of the day, I don't really care.

Problem with your argument is the same problem with Madara fanboy's arguments. You guys choose to go against what your character stated about how they rank against another character.. and instead make all this scenarios to put your character above someone else.

DSM Kabuto isn't even the same teir as EMS Madara....

The underline gave me a good laugh

Give me Taijutsu feats that effect Kabuto
Give me Genjutsu feats that effect Kabuto
Give me Kenjutsu feats that can effect Kabuto

Oh you can't? that's to bad.:|

1. Any punch he lands effects Kabuto
2. Bringer of Darkness. << no matter that Kabuto can still fight without seeing.. it will not change the impact of when the genjutsu is applied.
3. Pared a high level kenjutsu user.. in a time where knowing kenjutsu was basis of fighting.. and the high level kenjutsu user was also a EMS user.

Kabuto's prowess feats? Taking on a Sasuke and Itachi who were holding back....

(Not saying hes not the 4th/5th strongest, or weaker then Sasuke and Itachi)

I think you wrote that wrong. Anyways fighting experience is hardly a factor here but you can choose to believe it is. Your forgetting kabuto is also skilled in those departments.. You're keeping in mind that Kabuto made a poison for mukoton which plays a key part here. I mean.. have you not seen white rage? Muki tensei? Like i said hashirama takes this the majority of times 8/10 but you cant deny that kabuto can also win. Hashirama would have to seal kabuto because pyshical attacks get countered by body shedding or his regeneration abilities.

Taijutsu? er.. By Taijutsu we are talking skills.... not "fast" or "Strength".... he is kakashi level at best. Poison from Mokuton doesn't nulify Hashirama's mokuton blood. <<< Key thing is WOOD CLONES. It doesn't matter if Kabuto has those techniques.. the fact is only someone with EMS has a chance of taking on Hashirama's wood clones (Or of course if you have strong clones like Naruto's). None of those Kabuto has.

Regeneration wise and medical ninjutsu wise, Tsunade admit Hashirama was superior. <<< Even that category belongs to the Kami no Shinobi.

Edo Itachi > Hashirama
prime Kabuto has Edo Itachi therefore he's >>> Hashirama

Edo Itachi = Dead Itachi. Dead Itachi = Already out of battle.

 

[fakka]

lets put the facts together.

Hashirama tamed all the tailed beasts
Hashirama has a jutsu like 100 times bigger then perfect susano and kyuubi
Hashirama heals without handseals
hashirama can go sage mode
hashirama was considered a fairly tail

Kabuto been a ***** his whole life
Kabuto got his **** ride about a million times because he stole everything oro worked for.
kabuto used the edo tensai idea and didn't play the main villian he was still working for somebody
IF ORO WAS ALIVE HE WOULD HAVE DONE IT and thats the only reason kabuto's name had a meaning, but what happenend then he got ass****ed by a genjutsu and we all know hashirama knows genjutsu and sealing jutsu and can perfom them by just touching a person, so tell me hashirama goes into sage mode makes enough clones touches each and every edo and if you cant believe that, then he uses genjutsu on kabuto and then ****s him up. what you say he is immume of genjutsu because of the ultra sounds if they are in a cave....

WOODSTYLE - **** IT UP NO JUTSU

then there in an open place and lets be honest hashirama has been set on a whole nother level since we saw him fight madara

and here's a thing kabuto isn't that strong even with all his edo's, it was just hype seeing so much power come to someone who got a **** in the face all these years...

so please something ass easy as an amatersu could kill any edo except nagato because the fire stays on the person until it is completly gone and every edo does go away so they keep burning until eternity or just vanish, because if there isn't a single peace left how can something regenerate?

come to think of it naruto soloed like half the ****ing edo army without it being the Original him or even turning into kyuubi mode...

edo's are nothing, there as useless as a d rank jutsu, just good enough to stall things.

it figures they give the edo's to kabuto, if it was oro he would have fought obito there and then killed him and take sasuke with him.

a sealing barrier is just enough to put them all away.


conclusion kabuto isn't strong nor will he be.

kabuto just had to have a place in this strong world, but in the end he had been killed by his own edo.


and speaking of that how many edo's got away and weren't they even one of the strongest.....

so lets say he summoned them they know how to break it and why would they help him after that, they would most likely kill him first...

so conlcusion kabuton fights sakura and uses edo tensei after that gets killed by some of his own edo's and sakura gets ass****ed....

 

[xcoyote]

Mokuton poison definitely helps.

Kabuto without Edos gets beaten pret-ty badly.
Kabuto with Edos win. I just don't see how any single individual can beat the Edo army alone.

you should check OBD VS threads,apparently there Hashirama can solo Onepiece,bleach and Fairy tail together lol