So Kabuto>Hashirama with/without edos?

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been seeing a bit of this and im really curious as to how kabuto wins against hashirama. Is it just me or can someone give me a logical reaasons as to why kabuto "trashes" hashirama. Is it the poison to mokuton that makes people say it?
 

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Mokuton poison definitely helps.

Kabuto without Edos gets beaten pret-ty badly.
Kabuto with Edos win. I just don't see how any single individual can beat the Edo army alone.
 

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Hashirama>>>>>>>>>>>>Kabuto anyday. Yea so Kabuto summons Edo. All Hashi has to do is get close to him and slice it's all over. Or do the forest thing and confuse them all and kill Kabuto at random
 

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With Edo Tensei Kabuto takes out anyone 1v1 little to know diff.

But Without Edo Tensei I believe it to be arguable if Kabuto can defeat Hashirama. This being because of his snake like body I just see him dashing through Hashirama's Makuton either by splitting into a bunch of snakes such as how Kabuto avoided Uchiha brother's first attack or just getting close to Hashirama with his liquid body can't really do damage to water can you?

Not saying it will be easy I do believe Kabuto would have a high diff battle.
 

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Mokuton poison definitely helps.

Kabuto without Edos gets beaten pret-ty badly.
Kabuto with Edos win. I just don't see how any single individual can beat the Edo army alone.

This is coming from one of the biggest Kabuto fans on NB. Everything else is invalid

OT: No one could beat the Edo army Kabuto possesses, that's just madness. Hashirama does beat Kabuto w/o ET though.
 

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Mokuton poison definitely helps.

Kabuto without Edos gets beaten pret-ty badly.
Kabuto with Edos win. I just don't see how any single individual can beat the Edo army alone.

w/ Edo's could actually be debated for both.

I lean more towards Kabuto
 

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With Edos Kabuto wins.
Without Edos he gets stomped.
 

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Kabuto needs all the edo's he can get to beat Hashirama.

Otherwise, He get fodderized pretty badly without edo's.
 

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w/ Edo's could actually be debated for both.

I lean more towards Kabuto

How would he deal with ALL edos?

This is coming from one of the biggest Kabuto fans on NB. Everything else is invalid

OT: No one could beat the Edo army Kabuto possesses, that's just madness. Hashirama does beat Kabuto w/o ET though.

What he said is parcially true but im still not convinced that the poision is the biggest factor

With Edo Tensei Kabuto takes out anyone 1v1 little to know diff.

But Without Edo Tensei I believe it to be arguable if Kabuto can defeat Hashirama. This being because of his snake like body I just see him dashing through Hashirama's Makuton either by splitting into a bunch of snakes such as how Kabuto avoided Uchiha brother's first attack or just getting close to Hashirama with his liquid body can't really do damage to water can you?

Not saying it will be easy I do believe Kabuto would have a high diff battle.

That makes sense i suppose but its the pollen im most worried about and SM

Hashirama>>>>>>>>>>>>Kabuto anyday. Yea so Kabuto summons Edo. All Hashi has to do is get close to him and slice it's all over. Or do the forest thing and confuse them all and kill Kabuto at random

You made that sound a bit too easy o.o no way is hashi wiping out kabuto AND edo army


Noone says but you.

At what point did i say this was so?


Mokuton poison definitely helps.

Kabuto without Edos gets beaten pret-ty badly.
Kabuto with Edos win. I just don't see how any single individual can beat the Edo army alone.

TTo beat an edo army is impossible unless you have a move which wipes out edos in one blow

Hashirama > Kabuto

It's just fanboys being fanboys..

That was my first guess :T


Kabuto needs all the edo's he can get to beat Hashirama.

Otherwise, He get fodderized pretty badly without edo's.

Third raikage trollkage and nagato isnt enough?
 

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Fanboy logic: 3rd Raikage and etc are part of his power.

Kabuto: states him and Obito are not on Hashirama's level.

Fanboys: He has Edos..

opposition: Well its your choice to count them as his power or w.e.. but Kabuto already admit he is inferior to Hashirama.
 

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Hashirama>>>>>>>>>>>>Kabuto anyday. Yea so Kabuto summons Edo. All Hashi has to do is get close to him and slice it's all over. Or do the forest thing and confuse them all and kill Kabuto at random

And slice what? Kabuto's body? DSM Kabuto has the regenerative power of himself, Karin, Suigetsu, and Orochimaru combined. "Slicing" will do nothing Lol
 

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And slice what? Kabuto's body? DSM Kabuto has the regenerative power of himself, Karin, Suigetsu, and Orochimaru combined. "Slicing" will do nothing Lol

This. And this is why im contemplating in my mind what the outcome would be w/o edos
 

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How would he deal with ALL edos?



What he said is parcially true but im still not convinced that the poision is the biggest factor



That makes sense i suppose but its the pollen im most worried about and SM



You made that sound a bit too easy o.o no way is hashi wiping out kabuto AND edo army




At what point did i say this was so?




TTo beat an edo army is impossible unless you have a move which wipes out edos in one blow



That was my first guess :T




Third raikage trollkage and nagato isnt enough?

Kabuto was shown to be rather fast when using hiding like a mole tech when using that he could avoid contact with the pollen to close the gap against Hashi or use Manda II to dig its way to Hashirama this being a long shot though. And seeing as how Kabuto specializes in close rang combat I don't see him letting Hashirama get far enough to use his big name Makuton ninjutsu.
 

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Fanboy logic: 3rd Raikage and etc are part of his power.

Kabuto: states him and Obito are not on Hashirama's level.

Fanboys: He has Edos..

opposition: Well its your choice to count them as his power or w.e.. but Kabuto already admit he is inferior to Hashirama.

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*States he's invincible*

You don't have an answer for Edo Tensei, you can only make up half assed excuses.
You rely on the statement of someone who claimed he was invincible and closer to the Sage than anyone else alive.
You call other fanboys like it's an insult, when you yourself are a massive fanboy of Hashirama.

Edo Madara >= Hashirama, him being Kabuto's power or not is irrelevant because Kabuto could not care less.
 

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Whats the point of even talking about kabuto now? He's lost his powers to orochimaru so he's nothing but an ant compared to the top tier characters.

But to answer this thread, Hashirama owns both ways so it doesn't make a difference.
 

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*States he's invincible*

You don't have an answer for Edo Tensei, you can only make up half assed excuses.
You rely on the statement of someone who claimed he was invincible and closer to the Sage than anyone else alive.
You call other fanboys like it's an insult, when you yourself are a massive fanboy of Hashirama.

Edo Madara >= Hashirama, him being Kabuto's power or not is irrelevant because Kabuto could not care less.

"Says noone alive is on the Shodai's level, Says that the Shodai's might was so vast that people started to consider him a fairy tail like that of Rikudou Sennin. "

"Gets Izanamied couple chapters later".

Edo Madara = non shinobi.... Hashirama = Shinobi..... not even a correct comparison.

Edo Hashirama so far > Edo Madara.

I suggest using updated scans, not the ones that came before the point i made:cool:
 

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1."Says noone alive is on the Shodai's level, Says that the Shodai's might was so vast that people started to consider him a fairy tail like that of Rikudou Sennin. "

"Gets Izanamied couple chapters later".

2.Edo Madara = non shinobi.... Hashirama = Shinobi..... not even a correct comparison.

Edo Hashirama so far > Edo Madara.

3. I suggest using updated scans, not the ones that came before the point i made:cool:
1. Oh my god, you just showed that DSM Kabuto's opinion is not absolute with your first statement. Thanks for helping my side of the argument :I

2. What's your point with Edo Madara? Either way, Hashirama is not taking out Edo Madara, who is already pretty much more powerful than he is, plus DSM Kabuto, plus Edo Mu, plus Edo Deidara, plus Edo Itachi, plus Edo Nagato, etc.

3. So... What you're saying is that Kabuto magically changed his opinion of invincibility out of nowhere?

You can't counter Kabuto's abilities and Edos with Hashirama's abilities, you can only rely on the opinion of someone who's opinions can obviously be proven wrong.

Kabuto could just summon Edo Madara to fight Hashirama, sit back and watch the fireworks, and if Madara needs help, just summon Edo Nagato and Edo Itachi to help him out.
Edo army > Any single individual but the Sage.
 
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And slice what? Kabuto's body? DSM Kabuto has the regenerative power of himself, Karin, Suigetsu, and Orochimaru combined. "Slicing" will do nothing Lol

Er, Kimimaro has impressive regeneration/generation feats too. And he is included. Kabuto's bones themselves could be hardened by the Kaguya bloodline...
 
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