Prime obito doesn't include his 6 edo jins. Those are kabuto's summons

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His 6 paths with edo jins depend on if kabuto keeps ET activated, if kabuto deactivates ET the jins dissapear (as it happened in the manga), so Prime Obito is:

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Rinnengan------------> This one with the abilitie of summoning Gedo Mazo (wich will have inside it, chakra of the bijuus)

BUT he having or not the edo jins depends on Kabuto, so it's not his own power
 

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true it depends on kabuto, but as long as they exist, they still remain one of obito powers, since they have became one of his six paths, and he controls like his own body.
 

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true it depends on kabuto, but as long as they exist, they still remain one of obito powers, since they have became one of his six paths, and he controls like his own body.

So kakashi with bijuu cloak is prime kakashi, because while the cloak exist kakashi can use it, so kakashi with it is top 5 because with it he could warp the juubi...

THAT RIGHT THERE is the logic u used
 

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there is no prime obito

obito lost lost his potential to me when he gave up his eye and got his body crushed

obito has just been relying on outside help, he strong but he did not earn most of his power
 

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The Base would be so much simpler if we would restrict what is considered someone's power to the confines of their own body.
 

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He still has the 6/7 bijuu, He doesn't need the Edo jins to use the bijuu's.
 

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there is no prime obito

obito lost lost his potential to me when he gave up his eye and got his body crushed

obito has just been relying on outside help, he strong but he did not earn most of his power

Now this is bullshit. As we've seen from Obito's flashbacks, he had to train to use Mokuton and his new body, so saying he didn't work is bullshit. He would of course have to train in how his Mangekyo properly.

Madara also taught him, meaning he was training with Madara.
 

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So kakashi with bijuu cloak is prime kakashi, because while the cloak exist kakashi can use it, so kakashi with it is top 5 because with it he could warp the juubi...

THAT RIGHT THERE is the logic u used



even kakashi wrapped the juubi, it wont die since bijuus never die, and how can kakashi become top 5 when there ninjas who are above.

you didnt use my logic at all.
 

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Pretty much saying the Jins are Obito's power is as good as saying the Kyuubi Cloak was Hinata's

Add the Gunbai to Prime Obito's list =D
 

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even kakashi wrapped the juubi, it wont die since bijuus never die, and how can kakashi become top 5 when there ninjas who are above.

you didnt use my logic at all.

No, he's right. Kakashi has the potential to be top 7 with kamui alone, he just doesn't use it according to narutobase standards in order to be placed there. With kyuubi chakra, kakashi is #1 or #2 in the narutoverse.
 

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Now this is bullshit. As we've seen from Obito's flashbacks, he had to train to use Mokuton and his new body, so saying he didn't work is bullshit. He would of course have to train in how his Mangekyo properly.

Madara also taught him, meaning he was training with Madara.

he had ton of help with zetsu and hashirma cells
 

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I agree to some extent.Those Edo's were Kabuto's.

Obito is top 5 none the less with or without.
 

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No it is his power just as much as Edo tensei is to kabuto.

Taking feats form characters is as low as you can get.

Kabuto summoned the Jin's but Obito Used the Rinnegan's Six path ability and controlled them making them his pawns.

He also had the 7 bijuu's Inside the gedo mazou that he could of used and controlled.
 

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he had ton of help with zetsu and hashirma cells

That doesn't matter. He still earned it. He also had to work to get used to his new body, so Hashi's cells didn't completely help.
 

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That doesn't matter. He still earned it. He also had to work to get used to his new body, so Hashi's cells didn't completely help.

he trained and did the fireball jutsu and gained knowledge but thats it
 

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No, he's right. Kakashi has the potential to be top 7 with kamui alone, he just doesn't use it according to narutobase standards in order to be placed there. With kyuubi chakra, kakashi is #1 or #2 in the narutoverse.


i think you overrating kakashi's kamui, and also saying with kyuubi cloak he can become 1 or 2 is ridiculous, besides kakashi cant have kyuubi chakra forever.
 

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He's right.The 6 paths come from Kabuto.No Kabuto = No paths so why should this be included to his prime when it was a temporary gift for war?

logic is flawed
no Kurama no BM Naruto
i can go on you get my point
 
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