The Sages clan DOES NOT MATTER.

[SilverfoxUchiha]

What's your point?

The Uzumakis would obviously not be descendants of the Sage. Its stated throughout the manga that they are distant relatives of the Senju (which would obviously link them to the Uchiha). So therefore and even according to the family tree you have tried to use as evidence, the Uzumakis are the Progenitor Clan: which makes sense seeing as the Sage was the original; and also makes sense seeing as Naruto carries the name, carries the connection to Rikoudo Sennin, is the Child of Propecy, and is the main character of the Manga.

Again.... i don't get your point.

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Thank you, and that is why Naruto is an Uzumaki and not a Senju (representing Jūbi's Yang) for as an Uzumaki, Naruto represents Rikūdo, the human Uzumaki Rikūdo who fought the Jūbi prior to becoming its Jinchūriki, hence the proper dichotomy of Destroyer (Jūbi) vs Savior (Rikūdo Uzumaki) is achieved.

My sentiment exactly. Well said.

 

[Joon]

You have a error. No mentioning of the Uchiha. Back to the drawing board.

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Sigh. You could be right as Senju and Uchiha is related through blood. Information is still unknown about the Uzumaki Clan and its relation to the Senju. Therefore, I'll give you the benefit being its a theory. However, still skeptical of this Sage and Uzumaki ordeal. I'll put it into consideration.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

No they are related to both Senju and Uchiha:

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The Uchiha Tablet was needed as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Uzumaki Shiki Fūjin:

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The Uzumakis are related to both Senju and Uchiha because the Uzumaki is the original human heritage of the Rikūdo Sennin

 

[Joon]

No they are related to both Senju and Uchiha:

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The Uchiha Tablet was needed as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Uzumaki Shiki Fūjin:

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The Uzumakis are related to both Senju and Uchiha because the Uzumaki is the original human heritage of the Rikūdo Sennin

I actually looked it over and your pictures are not evidence. You are saying, but I need the real facts like words from the Manga.

To get this straight:

1. Juubi is a being, called by many names and is referred to as the Progenitor"

1. A person or thing from which a person, animal, or plant is descended or originates; an ancestor or parent.
2. A person who originates an artistic, political, or intellectual movement​

2. The Rikudou Sennin seal the Juubi into the moon. Although, first being split into two: Chakra and Body.
3. The Rikudou Sennin passed down his legacy to one of his son, that being his Younger Son, on his death bed.
4. The Rikudou Sennin Young Son (branch of the Senju) and Older Son (branch of the Uchiha)
5. To obtain the Rinnegan, one needs both DNA of the Senju (Specifically Hashriama) and Uchiha.
6. Uzumaki is blood relatives of the Senju.

Your theory is saying that because Uzumaki have blood relations to the Senju which have blood relations to the Uchiha, the Rikudou Sennin could be Uzumaki. It is confusing or doesn't make since because there is no other evidence holding your argument besides the Uzumaki relation. You have pictures of techniques, the Juubi, but you have forgotten that Uzumaki:

1. Created Death Reaper God and hold the Mask Unseal.

Also, how does that tie to the Rikudou Sennin?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I actually looked it over and your pictures are not evidence. You are saying, but I need the real facts like words from the Manga.

To get this straight:

1. Juubi is a being, called by many names and is referred to as the Progenitor"

1. A person or thing from which a person, animal, or plant is descended or originates; an ancestor or parent.
2. A person who originates an artistic, political, or intellectual movement​

2. The Rikudou Sennin seal the Juubi into the moon. Although, first being split into two: Chakra and Body.
3. The Rikudou Sennin passed down his legacy to one of his son, that being his Younger Son, on his death bed.
4. The Rikudou Sennin Young Son (branch of the Senju) and Older Son (branch of the Uchiha)
5. To obtain the Rinnegan, one needs both DNA of the Senju (Specifically Hashriama) and Uchiha.
6. Uzumaki is blood relatives of the Senju.

Your theory is saying that because Uzumaki have blood relations to the Senju which have blood relations to the Uchiha, the Rikudou Sennin could be Uzumaki. It is confusing or doesn't make since because there is no other evidence holding your argument besides the Uzumaki relation. You have pictures of techniques, the Juubi, but you have forgotten that Uzumaki:

1. Created Death Reaper God and hold the Mask Unseal.

Also, how does that tie to the Rikudou Sennin?

What I am saying is that the Uzumaki's connection to the Uchiha is independent of their relationship to the Senju because they did not descend from the Younger Son, rather both the Elder and Younger Sons were preceded by their Uzumaki father: Rikūdo Sennin

The Shiki Fūjin along with the Uzumaki Fūinjutsu are Rikūdo's Jutsu for the Uzumaki is Rikūdo's true heritage, the Uchiha Tablet being needed to unseal the Shiki Fūjin indicates that the Uzumakis preceded both Senju and Uchiha, for a "descendant" clan of the Younger Son would not create a jutsu (RDS) that would need an object (Uchiha Tablet) that is beyond their reach or access, so logically, the Uzumakis preceded both Senju and Uchiha for the Uzumaki is the original heritage of Rikūdo

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

The Mokuton is the body of the Juubi:

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The Sharingan is the eye of the Juubi:

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The Rinnegan is the Juubi's Eye (Sharingan) + Body (Mokuton) combined:

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The Uzumaki Heritage (Life Force + Sealing Jutsu) is Rikudou Sennin's original bloodline prior to becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki:

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Rikudou Sennin divided himself into Yin and Yang:

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The Juubi's Yin became the Uchiha:

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The Juubi's Yang became the Senju:

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The Senju and Uchiha then are the body and the eye of the Juubi

Therefore the equation is:

Uzumaki (Rikudou Sennin) + Juubi = Senju (Mokuton/Yang) and Uchiha (Sharingan/Yin)

I still dont see why the sage being an uzumaki matters to your theory, or at all.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I still dont see why the sage being an uzumaki matters to your theory, or at all.

Because it is the truth.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

It is a logical certainty, and it's blatantly obvious, as obvious as Tobi=Obito

Derp you took my ying-yang rikudou divided why!!!!!

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Because it is the truth.

And yet, you have no evidence that says its true, except that you have evidence of how it would be if it was.
What if kishi decides to make him a akimichi, or not have a clan?


Also, you missed the point of the thread. I said it didnt matter. That message was hidden deep within the title.

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

The Mokuton is the body of the Juubi:

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The Sharingan is the eye of the Juubi:

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The Rinnegan is the Juubi's Eye (Sharingan) + Body (Mokuton) combined:

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The Uzumaki Heritage (Life Force + Sealing Jutsu) is Rikudou Sennin's original bloodline prior to becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki:

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Rikudou Sennin divided himself into Yin and Yang:

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The Juubi's Yin became the Uchiha:

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The Juubi's Yang became the Senju:

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The Senju and Uchiha then are the body and the eye of the Juubi

Therefore the equation is:

Uzumaki (Rikudou Sennin) + Juubi = Senju (Mokuton/Yang) and Uchiha (Sharingan/Yin)

That simple theory makes sense seeing as both the Sharingan and the Mokuton have the unique ability to overpower/control the Bijuu (Kyuubi), as they are infact all interconnected.

 

[Kronus]

I'm as curious as anyone about the sage and juubi but I don't get the uzumaki obsession either.

 

[Miiami]

Sage is Namikaze :heh: I heard there was interview where Kishimoto says that the truth about Namikaze clan will be told, then maybe...? Namikaze's clan crest looks very much like Sharingan or those things that Sage wears on his clothes:

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But that's just me =D

But I do think that sage might be Uzumaki.