[Theory] Hint of Rikudo's Lineage Exposed

[FearxDeath]

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Over time there has been a many different theory about the SO6P and personally most of you guys are probably sick of hearing it, but there was just one thing I would like to add to the discussion so to speak, consider it food for thought. It will be really brief so no need for the chips and drinks.

This ties into a very brief thread I created earlier this week so if you really want to know what I am talking about I suggest you take a look at it. [

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Premise​

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Well as of right now there is one thing that cannot be doubted beyond a reasonable doubt and that is the fact that there is Uzumaki in the SO6P's lineage. I think that has pretty much been beaten into the ground, but I think the SO6P was only half Uzumaki. And the other half?

Hyuga, I believe this for 2 reasons which will be given below. Note that these arent exactly what you would call incriminating evidence but they should at the very least have people considering it as a possibility.

Reason #1​

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This is a throw away but I cannot believe that this statement from kakashi should be disregarded. And if it is true that the Uchiha originated from the Hyuga and that the Uchiha was founded by the son of the SO6P then it stands to reason that the SO6P was at the very least half Hyuga.

Now alot of people are going to say that things may have changed, or maybe kakashi is wrong, or this or that and granted they can be right. But it seems to me that kishi has done very little in regards to addressing this and that it does make very good sense especially in light of a previous theory of mine [

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] (Here is a link that I think further applies to this debate, kakashi refers to the Rinnegan as merely being a mutation, but a mutation of what? [

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]). This added with my 2nd reason, I believe, create a good case that the SO6P may have been a Hyuga.

Reason #2​

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Evidence A will be this scan:

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Above we see Jiraiya say "He was the first to divine the True Meaning of Chakra". Now this tells us one very important thing and that is that people knew of Chakra prior to the SO6P, it was simply that the SO6P was able to put it to use.

Now that kind of thing makes me wonder exactly how the guy was able to find out about chakra in such great detail? I mean most ordinary citizens can go there entire lives without ever knowing it existed yet he managed to create
ninjutsu out of thin air simply by believing chakra was there? Or could he see it???

Evidence B:

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It is my firm belief that he was able to create ninjutsu because he had eyes that could litterally SEE chakra and was perhaps the strongest byakugan user of his time. He was the strongest Byakugan user of all time. I could elaborate more but I wont at the risk of sounding like a hyuga fan boy, i disgress.

Conclusion​

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Now I am not acting like I just invented this, and I am sure other people probably thought about it before. But this was something that caught my mind and I wanted to put it out there.

A good case can be made as to whether the SO6P is a Hyuga and why he is an Uzumaki. I mean seriously, Uzumaki = Superior Lifeforce/Body, Hyuga = Superior Eyes. Senju = Superior Lifefore/Body, Uchiha = Superior Eyes. Statements have been made regarding Senju and Uzumaki being related, Statements have been made regarding Hyuga and Uchiha being related... How many dots are needed before we finally start to connect them?

I hope you guys enjoyed the read.​

 

[GuardianoftheNakano]

Could've sworn it was stated rather explicitly that the brothers went on to create Senju and Uchiha, not Uzumaki and Hyuuga. And the rinnengan requires Senju DNA anyways. It's a tad more logical to say that he was half Uchiha, half Senju.

 

[Joon]

Really? Do you really believe this? I can not make this a possibility.

 

[Hypemaster]

Quite the theory you got there

 

[ll Kisame ll]

does the byakugan come from a mutation from the rinnegan or sumthing?i don't kno if this is even accurate im just throwing ideas out there

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Hyuugas came after the sage so no offense thread fail

 

[Sherlock.]

I agree.... Normally people doubt this because Hyuga have not got much of development but then again Kishi sama has maintained quite The Byakugan Mystery.... Main and Branch Family.... Cloud trying to kidnap Hinata for getting Byakugan's Secrets.... There's much more of Byakugan and we'll know it's importance in future chapters.... =D =D

Hyuugas came after the sage so no offense thread fail

No Proof for the bold part.... I know there's no proof that they came before but your tone suggests you are too sure of what you posted....

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

I still prefer the clans comming after the Sage; however, I love the logical progression and the fantastic presentation.

Though I'd say the Sage's Outfit is more reminescant of the Flashback Uchiha or Obito's cloak than Hizashi's robes.

 

[Transcendence]

Could've sworn it was stated rather explicitly that the brothers went on to create Senju and Uchiha, not Uzumaki and Hyuuga. And the rinnengan requires Senju DNA anyways. It's a tad more logical to say that he was half Uchiha, half Senju.

Good job at making yourself look like an idiot.

The Descendants of the sons were regarded as Senju and Uchiha. The Progenitors of those clans? HIS SONS. Not him. It completely gets rid of the possibility he is half Senju, half Uchiha.

OT: This is a possibility, but due to parallelism with Naruto, the Sage will probably be only Uzumaki.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The Uzumakis and Hyūgas definitely preceded the Senjus and Uchihas, the Elder and Younger Sons being merely creations of Rikūdo Sennin like the Bijūs using Banbutsu Sōzō, the Elder Son is the Yin of the Jūbi while the Younger Son the Yang of the Jūbi

I still prefer the clans comming after the Sage; however, I love the logical progression and the fantastic presentation.

Though I'd say the Sage's Outfit is more reminescant of the Flashback Uchiha or Obito's cloak than Hizashi's robes.

There were definitely pre-ninjutsu clans that were the progenitor of the present day Shinobi Clans. Rikūdo definitely belonged to a family for he was born a human and only became a god after becoming the Jūbi's Jinchūriki

 

[Styles]

i don't see a similarity what the sage have on kinda looks somewhat like what sasuke has on

 

[Sherlock.]

The Uzumakis and Hyūgas definitely preceded the Senjus and Uchihas, the Elder and Younger Sons being merely creations of Rikūdo Sennin like the Bijūs using Banbutsu Sōzō, the Elder Son is the Yin of the Jūbi while the Younger Son the Yang of the Jūbi



There were definitely pre-ninjutsu clans that were the progenitor of the present day Shinobi Clans. Rikūdo definitely belonged to a family for he was born a human and only became a god after becoming the Jūbi's Jinchūriki

He definitely didn't had to start from scratch.... He sure might have developed his techs to fight against The Jubbi from those basic techs he learnt from his teacher(s).... =D =D

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

The Uzumakis and Hyūgas definitely preceded the Senjus and Uchihas, the Elder and Younger Sons being merely creations of Rikūdo Sennin like the Bijūs using Banbutsu Sōzō, the Elder Son is the Yin of the Jūbi while the Younger Son the Yang of the Jūbi



There were definitely pre-ninjutsu clans that were the progenitor of the present day Shinobi Clans. Rikūdo definitely belonged to a family for he was born a human and only became a god after becoming the Jūbi's Jinchūriki

Well naturally there would be familiar clans/families before the Sage....I refer to the Shinobi Clans specifically (though I failed to kind of mention that)....guess it depends on if the Hyuga and Uzumaki were regarded as familiar clans before they became Shinobi clans.

At the same time, it would make sense as both seem reclusive to the Shinobi system. The Uzumaki lived far away and tried to keep to themselves...eventually being destroyed while Hiashi made it sound like the Hyuga typically take care of themselves (his comment to Kurenai about how the Hyuga don't need one like Hinata).

Lol just letting my personal bias get in the way, but theoretically and story wise it deffinatly makes sense. Most plausible case is a Hyuga-Uzumaki child. I still like the idea of being born with the Rinnegan (even though that's become mighty unpopular, but a Hyuga-Uzumaki DNA combo would make sense for it) so this Hyuga-Uzumaki Riku-Baby would be the best candidate for that.

 

[Champ]

Didn't read. Manga said Uchiha/Senju one body

 

[SASUKE IS ABOVE KAGE LEVE]

GTFO nb your obviously drunk............. come back when you actually have deductive reasoning and don't reak of booze

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I really don't understand why others insist that families/clans existed only after Rikūdo's foundation of the Shinobi World, logic and common sense entails that these Shinobi Clans were descended from the Pre-Ninjutsu families/clans that preceded them, look at Japanese history, the Iga and Kõga Clans were a clan of hired mercenaries and sellswords before they became the formally organized Shinobi Clans they were known for since.

The Rinnegan that is able to bring forth all Ninjutsu logically comes from the Jūbi which is the source of all Chakra that fuels ninjutsu, having similitude in divine qualities must logically come from the same source: Jūbi

Didn't read. Manga said Uchiha/Senju one body

That was after Rikūdo became the Jūbi's Jinchūriki, The Uchiha and Senju being the Yin and the Yang of the Jūbi, prior to that he was an Uzumaki (or possibly a Hyūga hybrid)

 

[esenn1]

maybe the true 2nd SO6P is the child of Naruto and Hinata

 

[FearxDeath]

hell it seems like most of you didnt even read the thread, excluding mr shouri, king derp and a few others. Let me put together my list right now, any one who wants to disagree with me because of anything regarding the Senju or uchiha just reply with an "x" and I'll just block you and save time. Not going to waste my time on any idiots who think the hyuga don't proceed the senju or uchiha. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

 

[kunde]

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Over time there has been a many different theory about the SO6P and personally most of you guys are probably sick of hearing it, but there was just one thing I would like to add to the discussion so to speak, consider it food for thought. It will be really brief so no need for the chips and drinks.

This ties into a very brief thread I created earlier this week so if you really want to know what I am talking about I suggest you take a look at it. [

You must be registered for see links

]

Premise​

Spoiler

Well as of right now there is one thing that cannot be doubted beyond a reasonable doubt and that is the fact that there is Uzumaki in the SO6P's lineage. I think that has pretty much been beaten into the ground, but I think the SO6P was only half Uzumaki. And the other half?

Hyuga, I believe this for 2 reasons which will be given below. Note that these arent exactly what you would call incriminating evidence but they should at the very least have people considering it as a possibility.

Reason #1​

Spoiler

Spoiler

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This is a throw away but I cannot believe that this statement from kakashi should be disregarded. And if it is true that the Uchiha originated from the Hyuga and that the Uchiha was founded by the son of the SO6P then it stands to reason that the SO6P was at the very least half Hyuga.

Now alot of people are going to say that things may have changed, or maybe kakashi is wrong, or this or that and granted they can be right. But it seems to me that kishi has done very little in regards to addressing this and that it does make very good sense especially in light of a previous theory of mine [

You must be registered for see links

] (Here is a link that I think further applies to this debate, kakashi refers to the Rinnegan as merely being a mutation, but a mutation of what? [

You must be registered for see links

]). This added with my 2nd reason, I believe, create a good case that the SO6P may have been a Hyuga.

Reason #2​

Spoiler

Evidence A will be this scan:

Spoiler

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Above we see Jiraiya say "He was the first to divine the True Meaning of Chakra". Now this tells us one very important thing and that is that people knew of Chakra prior to the SO6P, it was simply him he was able to put it to use.

Now that kind of thing makes me wonder exactly how the guy was able to find out about chakra in such great detail? I mean most ordinary citizens can go there entire lives without ever knowing it existed yet he managed to create
ninjutsu out of then air simply by believing chakra was there? Or could he see it???

Evidence B:

Spoiler

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It is my firm belief that he was able to create ninjutsu because he had eyes that could litterally SEE chakra and was perhaps the strongest byakugan user of his time. He was the strongest Byakugan user of all time. I could elaborate more but I wont at the risk of sounding like a hyuga fan boy, i disgress.

Conclusion​

Spoiler

Now I am not acting like I just invented this, and I am sure other people probably thought about it before. But this was something that caught my mind and I wanted to put it out there.

A good case can be made as to whether the SO6P is a Hyuga and why he is an Uzumaki. I mean seriously, Uzumaki = Superior Lifeforce/Body, Hyuga = Superior Eyes. Senju = Superior Lifefore/Body, Uchiha = Superior Eyes. Statements have been made regarding Senju and Uzumaki being related, Statements have been made regarding Hyuga and Uchiha being related... How many dots are needed before we finally start to connect them?

I hope you guys enjoyed the read.​

if he's born in uzumaki then that should make him an uzumaki ...there is no evidence that hyuuga n uzumaki existed in the same time ...remember dojutsu started from him ...so that should make him a pure uzumaki not half

 

[esenn1]

maybe the true 2nd SO6P is the child of Naruto and Hinata