Hashirama and Tobirama are not 100% related

[TheWillofFire]

You might think I'm crazy, saying "wtf of course they are related they are brothers" but do they have the same parents? I don't think so.

Why?
First off Hashirama has black hair, and Tobirama white hair (kinda like yin/yang)
Second off, they have two completely different jutsu sets, none being remotely similar. (Hashirama having mokuton, sage mode, while tobirama having sensory, FTG, etc.)
Third, Edo Tensei, hashirama has senju cells, and thus is able to have free reign of his will, while the others (tobirama, minato, and hiruzen) are all under Orochimarus control due to Hashirama cells!

Wouldnt you think if they were 100% brothers they'd at least have similar bodies? Or both have free reign?

This brings up the next idea where Hashiramas parents were possibly both 100% Senju, making Hashirama 100% Senju. 100% meaning Only his cells work on experiments, tobiramas or tsunades cells would not be efficient for senju related powers like izanagi, only Hashirama and his predecessors would have that potential.

This must mean after Hashirama, Butsuma (Hashis Father) got remarried (possibly to a white haired girl from Hagaromo) and thus was able to have Tobirama, and Itama, which has half black, and half white hair.
Either that or Tobirama is not EVEN 50% senju, he was adopted and just BELONGS to the Senju clan.

Also another thing giving me these thoughts is when Madara tells Hashirama "you call me a "brother" but between him and me who would you cut down"?

So your thoughts? Obvious? Not so obvious?

 

[P3ĮÑ 🥈]

Well my brother looks a helluva alot different then I am ....it seems he's also not related

 

[Transcendence]

Genetics differ and are offset. You're wrong. You're also forgetting the Mokuton is a combination of Earth and Water; Water being an affinity for Tobirama. FTG and Edo Tensai are both self taught Jutsu, therefore there is an equal possibility of Hashirama being able to do them as Tobirama as long as he is taught them.

 

[Supreme x Uchiha]

This may be true; but Tobirama still owns.

 

[Prime Rib]

You might think I'm crazy, saying "wtf of course they are related they are brothers" but do they have the same parents? I don't think so.

Why?
First off Hashirama has black hair, and Tobirama white hair (kinda like yin/yang)
Second off, they have two completely different jutsu sets, none being remotely similar. (Hashirama having mokuton, sage mode, while tobirama having sensory, FTG, etc.)
Third, Edo Tensei, hashirama has senju cells, and thus is able to have free reign of his will, while the others (tobirama, minato, and hiruzen) are all under Orochimarus control due to Hashirama cells!

Wouldnt you think if they were 100% brothers they'd at least have similar bodies? Or both have free reign?

This brings up the next idea where Hashiramas parents were possibly both 100% Senju, making Hashirama 100% Senju. 100% meaning Only his cells work on experiments, tobiramas or tsunades cells would not be efficient for senju related powers like izanagi, only Hashirama and his predecessors would have that potential.

This must mean after Hashirama, Butsuma (Hashis Father) got remarried (possibly to a white haired girl from Hagaromo) and thus was able to have Tobirama, and Itama, which has half black, and half white hair.
Either that or Tobirama is not EVEN 50% senju, he was adopted and just BELONGS to the Senju clan.

Also another thing giving me these thoughts is when Madara tells Hashirama "you call me a "brother" but between him and me who would you cut down"?

So your thoughts? Obvious? Not so obvious?

there 100 percent brothers obviously you didnt read the manga of flashback during hashirama and madara childhood. look at hashirama and tobirama youngest brother itama he had half white and half black hair. not ever family memeber has to look exactly like there parents or brothers or sisters etc.

 

[The Big Boss]

itama was made to prove they are brothers

 

[TheWillofFire]

Oh..Genetics differ but.....SENJU cells = only hashirama?
If your parents were both 100% japanese you will be 100% Japanese no matter the difference in genetics
This doesnt seem th pe case in Tobirama in being 100% senju as he is being controled by Orochimaru

 

[ll Kisame ll]

im glad you pointed this out i thought i was the only one who was blind...tobi clearly looks of some Asian decent where hashi doesn't...but i just think they have different mothers, assuming that since he has "rama" as a suffix in his name he had to be with them from birth to name him that, idk good analysis though

 

[TheWillofFire]

itama was made to prove they are brothers

I was showing how Itama could be half brother, by having the hair

 

[TheWillofFire]

there 100 percent brothers obviously you didnt read the manga of flashback during hashirama and madara childhood. look at hashirama and tobirama youngest brother itama he had half white and half black hair. not ever family memeber has to look exactly like there parents or brothers or sisters etc.

No you arent listening to me.

First Hashirama 100% Senju
Second Tobirama white hair from 2nd mother
Third itama, black hair from senju, white hair from 2nd mother

 

[Transcendence]

Oh..Genetics differ but.....SENJU cells = only hashirama?
If your parents were both 100% japanese you will be 100% Japanese no matter the difference in genetics
This doesnt seem th pe case in Tobirama in being 100% senju as he is being controled by Orochimaru

They both possess Senju cells... Don't be dense. You're mistaking Senju cells as to what Obito/Zetsu has, which are Hashiramas cells; still Senju cells, but the strongest version. Yes you will still be Japanese, BUT GENETIC TRAITS DIFFER. He is being controlled by Orochimaru because he isn't strong enough to break it. Hashirama has immensely strong chakra.

 

[inoyamanaka98]

You do have a point though they maybe brother and all but those two are not alike

 

[Neonian]

Maybe different Moms, lol

 

[Prime Rib]

No you arent listening to me.

First Hashirama 100% Senju
Second Tobirama white hair from 2nd mother
Third itama, black hair from senju, white hair from 2nd mother

Kawarama is tobirama,hashirama,itama brother to fyi. just cause hashirama has black hair and tobirama has white hair dosent mean they arent 100%related. how do you no hashirama is 100 percent senju himself? all you do is assuming

 

[TheWillofFire]

They both possess Senju cells... Don't be dense. You're mistaking Senju cells as to what Obito/Zetsu has, which are Hashiramas cells; still Senju cells, but the strongest version. Yes you will still be Japanese, BUT GENETIC TRAITS DIFFER. He is being controlled by Orochimaru because he isn't strong enough to break it. Hashirama has immensely strong chakra.

Ok so you don't even think my thinking is plausible?

 

[TheWillofFire]

Kawarama is tobirama,hashirama,itama brother to fyi. just cause hashirama has black hair and tobirama has white hair dosent mean they arent 100%related. how do you no hashirama is 100 percent senju himself? all you do is assuming

Im not assuming Im theorizing

 

[S A G E]

They are 100% brothers until kishimoto says otherwise.
It seems like its rare to obtain the Mokuton kkg, even amongst the senju clans.
Well its for good reasons, since its too OP.
Hashirama had it for the sake of parallelism.
Him having the ultimate body just like the Second son of the Sage.
It's what made him worthy of the title the god of Shinbi, and founder of Konoha since plants signifies life.

 

[Cooh]

Wtf? My brother has blond hair while I have dark brown hair and Im 100% certain we have the same parents ^^.

 

[Joon]

We haven't seen his mother though. 0_0 >_>

 

[dildobaggins369]

Oh..Genetics differ but.....SENJU cells = only hashirama?
If your parents were both 100% japanese you will be 100% Japanese no matter the difference in genetics
This doesnt seem th pe case in Tobirama in being 100% senju as he is being controled by Orochimaru

Being senju has nothing to with Oro's capabilities of controlling someone through edo tensei.
The reason Oro can't control Hashi is simply because of his monstrous strength, not because he's "100% senju."
Kishi made it like that to show how strong Hashi is and that he is on a whole other level from everyone else.

So Tobirama and Hashi are 100% brothers, but Hashi is just stronger. which seems pretty realistic to me. I have a brother born from the same parents who happens to be stronger than I am.

And the point about oro having Hashis cells:
This doesn't prove anything about one brother being more senju than the other. All it is saying is that Oro is using some of Hashis (pretty much the strongest shinobi in existence) power.