Question: Could Orochimaru really control Minato?

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I know some may consider it as irrelevant at this point since Orochimaru doesn't care about it anyway, but this question crossed my mind now and i wanted to share

Despite , Minato never complained about it during all these chapters. We've seen and saying he has to go on the battlefield, but still couldn't(because of the binding power) after Orochimaru increased the binding using Hashi cells. Only Hokages who didn't complain were Hashirama and Minato. Hashirama eventually still managed to break the binding, but if you notice Kishi purposedly put Minato's situation in stand-by

Do you think that Minato knew that using Kyubi's chakra, he could break the binding at anytime of his desire? We've seen that according to his point of view. So maybe the edo tensei binding won't work on KCM Minato as well? Could it be the reason behind his apparent non-interess?

What do you think?
 

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I agree he should be able to dismiss the binding
 

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Maybe, but then again Orochimaru could wipe Minato's mind if he somehow breaks free.
 

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I doubt he can dismiss the binding. Hashi just broke it cause he has roid cells. Tobirama knows the ins and outs of Edo Tensei so he could put up a fight. Hiruzen had some knowledge on Edo Tensei, but was too weak to do anything to counter it. Maybe if Minato knew Edo Tensei like Tobirama he could over power it. Who knows though.
 

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I think he can dismiss the binding but only in KCM.
 

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I doubt he can dismiss the binding. Hashi just broke it cause he has roid cells. Tobirama knows the ins and outs of Edo Tensei so he could put up a fight. Hiruzen had some knowledge on Edo Tensei, but was too weak to do anything to counter it. Maybe if Minato knew Edo Tensei like Tobirama he could over power it. Who knows though.
Tobirama almost broke it and he doesn't have Hashi cells. The cells have nothing to do with it. It's question of if the contender can overpower the binding or not, and like i've showed, Kyubi's power is so great that Naruto thought no binding technique could hold him, and Minato possessing the same Kyubi's power, reason why i asked
 

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Tobirama almost broke it and he doesn't have Hashi cells. The cells have nothing to do with it. It's question of if the contender can overpower the binding or not, and like i've showed, Kyubi's power is so great that Naruto thought no binding technique could hold him, and Minato possessing the same Kyubi's power, reason why i asked

It's possible the edo tensei restricted him from accessing it?
 

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No i believe that minato was just curious
 

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Different binding techniques have different strength :| Minato cannot break free of Orichimaru's control. It is speculation to say the least, but without doing what Madara has done, Minato is essentially a puppet with free will

Tobirama almost broke it and he doesn't have Hashi cells. The cells have nothing to do with it. It's question of if the contender can overpower the binding or not, and like i've showed, Kyubi's power is so great that Naruto thought no binding technique could hold him, and Minato possessing the same Kyubi's power, reason why i asked

Tobirama IS Hashirama's brother...... They are genetically related. Senju DNA and what not.

This, and the fact you are comparing Iruka's binding technique to that of Edo tensei's. Iruka is a low level Chuunin. Orichimaru is a Saanin currently in possession of Hashirama's cells. You do the comparison between the two.

It would have been a nice thought, though easily dismissible.
 
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Most likely no. He could bind Minato's movements thanks to the Zetsu body he now has as a host. The only reason Hashirama is able to resist this sort of binding is because of the fact that Zetsu's are practically made from Hashirama; It's like being in his body for Hashirama.

And, as it turns out, Hashirama can keep himself from being controlled when he is with his own cells and such. I doubt any Hokage could really break from Orochimaru's control. Could Minato resist and force Orochimaru to use a higher level seal, after restricting his movements and making him similar enough to the first version of Edo Tensei we saw?

Most likely. All the Hokage would probably resist to some extent and force Orochimaru to severely weaken them by adding on higher level binds/seals. Breaking out of Orochimaru's current Edo Tensei, though? Very doubtful.
 

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Good point. The fact that hashirama couldn't be controlled because of sheer force also adds to this. It's actually quite plausible that with KCM, Minato can't be controlled.
 

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Tobirama IS Hashirama's brother...... They are genetically related. Senju DNA and what not.

This, and the fact you are comparing Iruka's binding technique to that of Edo tensei's. Iruka is a low level Chuunin. Orichimaru is a Saanin currently in possession of Hashirama's cells. You do the comparison between the two.

It would have been a nice thought, though easily dismissible.
I'm not comparing both binding techniques in terms of power, but just to show the capacity/power that KCM can give to its user. It's for that reason i used that as an example. I never said the binding force was the same or this question would have make no sense to begin with. Also, Tobirama may be Hashi's brother, but he clearly doesn't share the same cells as him since he was able to notice that Orochimaru possess HIS brother's cells, not his own
 

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I'm not comparing both binding techniques in terms of power, but just to show the capacity/power that KCM can give to its user. It's for that reason i used that as an example. I never said the binding force was the same or this question would have make no sense to begin with. Also, Tobirama may be Hashi's brother, but he clearly doesn't share the same cells as him since he was able to notice that Orochimaru possess HIS brother's cells, not his own

In that case, I agree with you there, but still would not consider KCM to empower the host to the extent of breaking a jutsu like Edo Tensei's control. It is quite different compared to other binding techniques, wouldn't you say ? Zombies and what not :mad:_@:

Logically, Tobirama should have had the same ease as Hasirama. They share the same DNA, one having the KKG and the other without it. :sweat: But, this is Naruto, lets not get into Biology. KKG's and Senju DNA being like steroids is quite confusing.
 

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That's hardly any evidence. Perhaps Kishi just didn't want to waste time doing that. There's more evidence to support him being able to than not.
 

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Put a talisman in their head, he controls them all
 
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