Obito>Kakashi (With Kamui) Obito=Kakashi (Without.)

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Alright, I saw lots of comments on my first post saying that Kakashi could beat Obito without his gedo mazo and six bijuu. Which is obviously wrong, because he didn't have the gedo mazo and his six bijuu, and he was still kicking Kakashi's ass. And if it weren't for Naruto, Kakashi would've already been dead.

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Obito can in fact beat Kakashi with kamui, so I don't know how that is even a debate.

But, I CAN believe that Kakashi = Obito without kamui.

 

[Smd]

obito>kakashi

kakashi>obito with pnj

 

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Sorry for inserting the same pics, hold on, adding some different ones.

 

[Trollasaur]

You're an idiot, did not read

Woodstyle
Zetsu body
Rinne techs
Expert genjutsu caster
Few things I'm forgeting

 

[blackstar9]

i think obito > kakashi

 

[Aggregator]

You're an idiot, did not read

Woodstyle
Zetsu body
Rinne techs
Expert genjutsu caster
Few things I'm forgeting

Why are you being so offensive, bro?

 

[Aggregator]

You're an idiot, did not read

Woodstyle
Zetsu body
Rinne techs
Expert genjutsu caster
Few things I'm forgeting

AND I did say that I CAN believe Obito = Kakashi without kamui, I never said that I flat out believed Kakashi = Obito without kamui.

 

[Tobiramas]

Obito beating up a stunned, largely unmotivated Kakashi means nothing for the purposes of a true one-on-one duel.

 

[Microsword57]

Can someone give me an accurate list of Current Obito's abilities and tell me what his most powerful technique is that puts him at his highly praised echelon? I'm confused about his Current capabilities seeing.

 

[Katkot]

Isn't that obvious

 

[crono0929]

Obito>kakashi

Obito has too many things going

Rinnegan
Mokuton
Genjutsu
Unlimited use of MS techs, thanks to his senju dna

Just to name a few.

 

[Raikiri808]

Obito beating up a stunned, largely unmotivated Kakashi means nothing for the purposes of a true one-on-one duel.

Completely agree

 

[Ababeel]

that's depends in the next chapter, what obito has


1- a weak Woodstyle
2- he lost his Zetsu body
3- he can't use Rinne techs, the rinngan is only for decoration.
4- the jins are not even his, they are Kabuto's summons.

his jutsu is Kamui and it's his fighting style, is like saying Kakashi is without his 1000 jutsu just because
he does not use them.

 

[Aggregator]

that's depends in the next chapter, what obito has


1- a weak Woodstyle
2- he lost his Zetsu body
3- he can't use Rinne techs, the rinngan is only for decoration.
4- the jins are not even his, they are Kabuto's summons.

his jutsu is Kamui and it's his fighting style, is like saying Kakashi is without his 1000 jutsu just because
he does not use them.

Obito has katon which is comparable to Madara Uchiha's.. And his mokuton is weak? Pft:

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And Obito can in fact use the rinnegan's techs, he said he could revive Madara with the rinnegan and he can also use the human path. He in fact can use ALL of the paths, but Kakashi figured out that using his rinnegan and sharingan at the same time would cause Obito's chakra to drop, which is true. Do you eve read the manga?

The only thing you're right about is the jins.

 

[Aggregator]

Obito beating up a stunned, largely unmotivated Kakashi means nothing for the purposes of a true one-on-one duel.

So you are saying that Obito, the person who soloed Kakashi, Bee, Guy, and Naruto all by himself using kamui, would lose to a motivated Kakashi in manga chapters 608 and 609?

Yeah, no.

 

[Nous]

Obito >>>>>>>>>>> Kakashi (with Kamui)
Obito > Kakashi (without Kamui)

Obito = Kakashi (In Taijutsu/Kenjutsu/Bukitetsu)

 

[Ababeel]

Obito has katon which is comparable to Madara Uchiha's.. And his mokuton is weak? Pft:

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And Obito can in fact use the rinnegan's techs, he said he could revive Madara with the rinnegan and he can also use the human path. He in fact can use ALL of the paths, but Kakashi figured out that using his rinnegan and sharingan at the same time would cause Obito's chakra to drop, which is true. Do you eve read the manga?

The only thing you're right about is the jins.

1- It does not matter, Kakashi can use his earth release to avoid it.
2- Well, everything work against fodder, no?
3- then why he did not use them so far? Also, let's say that, it still does not matter since Kakashi
also has counter for its jutsus as stated by Guy.

4- The manga I read obito admitted that Kakashi could have killed several time. He did not say
"you could kill me when I Kamui-less" he did not say "I have wood, I have the Rinngan, I solo'd you
Guy, Naruto and B" he still have all the power he has and see what Kakashi has done to him

Also, what did he do to that team anyway? he cut 2 of B's tails and attacked Kskshi, that's pretty much it
as far as I remember he couldn't harm naruto!

Anyway, we shall see what will happen next.

 

[EZQ]

The pictures doesn't count, kakashi could barely move in that moment..

And obito with kamui>>>>>>>> kakashi with kamui... kakashi's strongest tech is kamui, wich doesn't work on obito

But kakashi's kamui > ALMOST everyones exept obito

 

[jdasprawler]

Kakashi beats Obito if you don't ban pnj.

 

[sirius49]

In the picture you posted kakashi was mentally lost about the shocking event.
Normal condition Kakashi > Obito and he proved it imediatly when he warped him in the other dimension.