[Theory] Rikudo's Jinchuriki Power [Explained]

[FearxDeath]

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In this thread I am going to unravel what I believe to be a common misconception about the Rikudo's Jinchuriki Power.

The Bijuu powers granted to the current Jinchuriki​

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*Note that in some cases the Powers granted by the Jinchuriki are abilities that otherwise would not exist*
*Note that in some cases the things I refer to as Releases may not be so, but they act in the same way. Such as Killer B being able to use Ink Clones. Although Ink Release technically isnt a Release, it acts the same way, I digress*

1 - Shukaku the Ichibi/ Gaara:Sand Release
2 - Matatabi the Nibi/ Yugito: Cat Like Claws
3 - Isobuu the Sanbi/ Yagura: Coral Release
4 - Son Gokuu the Yonbi/ Roushi: Lave Release
5 -Kokuou the Gobi/ Han: Steam Release
6 - Saiken the Rokubi/ Ukataka: Possibly Boil Release or Acid Release
7 - Choumei the Shichibi/ Fuu: Has Wings and can breathe out large amounts of powder
8 - Gyuuki the Hachibi/ B: Ink Release
9 - Kurama the Kyuubi/ Naruto: Ability to read peoples emotions and intentions

As you can see the Bijuu grant there respective Jinchuriki's special abilities, so then the question is, what power did the SO6P (Rikudo) get from the Juubi.

The Juubi power granted to the SO6P​

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Alot of people think that the ability that the Juubi gave the SO6P is the Rinnegan. But I have slowly and surely started to think otherwise. Personally I believe that the SO6P was half Uzumaki and half Hyuga and thus he was born with a Byakugan and through some way or another it transformed into the Rinnegan.

10 - Juubi the Progenitor/ Rikudo: ... Get Ready for this... Yin/Yang Release

I believe that the power passed down to the Rikudo was the Yin/Yang Release, it just makes the most sense to me. And thus with that power he transformed his Byakugan into the Rinnegan.

Conclusion​

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Now I know that alot of people are looking at me crazy right now and that is normal because what I am proposing is pretty out there but it does make sense, it all adds up and explains how the Rikudo can use Yin/Yang Release.

Tied Ends​

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This would then tie into Derp Obitos theory that the Juubi's corrupt chakra lingered on in the SO6P after it being sealed and over time the Descendants of the Rikudo's eyes slowly turned from the Rinnegan to the Juubi's eye, the Sharingan. Hence why the SO6P's son has spiral eyes rather than circular.

I hope you enjoyed the read ​

 

[Sonnelion]

Good theory

 

[God of the akatsuki]

your wrong on kuramas part kurama granted naruto wind realse to him when naruto was little

 

[Bijuu13]

Good theory. It will be crazy if one of the better and more supported theories such as this actually happen

 

[Calpal]

good read, i liked it!

 

[FearxDeath]

TY

Thanks for the likes guys, I really appreciate it

your wrong on kuramas part kurama granted naruto wind realse to him when naruto was little

Naruto was born with Wind Release, this was shown by kakashi when he gave Naruto the ninja paper which was cut in half when he touched it showing his Nature Chakra was Wind.... It wouldnt even make sense for him to grant that because the Wind does that relate to Kurama in any way? What makes you think that?

 

[thunderthehybrid]

nice theory. excellente

 

[The Mentalist]

Nice thread,liked the theory; the Sage of the six paths seals the 10 tails in him so all the yin/yang release powers were granted to him,he probably has all elemental attacks,and all of pains powers.Still there are a lot of mysteries that will be answered later by Kishi(Hopefully).

 

[God of the akatsuki]

TY

Thanks for the likes guys, I really appreciate it




Naruto was born with Wind Release, this was shown by kakashi when he gave Naruto the ninja paper which was cut in half when he touched it showing his Nature Chakra was Wind.... It wouldnt even make sense for him to grant that because the Wind does that relate to Kurama in any way? What makes you think that?

kuramas bio is basically wind but i see what saying never knew naruto was born with it though

 

[Meowazziel]

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In this thread I am going to unravel what I believe to be a common misconception about the Rikudo's Jinchuriki Power.

The Bijuu powers granted to the current Jinchuriki​

Spoiler

*Note that in some cases the Powers granted by the Jinchuriki are abilities that otherwise would not exist*
*Note that in some cases the things I refer to as Releases may not be so, but they act in the same way. Such as Killer B being able to use Ink Clones. Although Ink Release technically isnt a Release, it acts the same way, I digress*

1 - Shukaku the Ichibi/ Gaara:Sand Release
2 - Matatabi the Nibi/ Yugito: Cat Like Claws/Improved Fire Style
3 - Isobuu the Sanbi/ Yagura: Coral Release
4 - Son Gokuu the Yonbi/ Roushi: Lave Release
5 -Kokuou the Gobi/ Han: Steam Release
6 - Saiken the Rokubi/ Ukataka: Possibly Boil Release or Acid Release
7 - Choumei the Shichibi/ Fuu: Has Wings and can breathe out large amounts of powder
8 - Gyuuki the Hachibi/ B: Ink Release
9 - Kurama the Kyuubi/ Naruto: Ability to read peoples emotions and intentions

As you can see the Bijuu grant there respective Jinchuriki's special abilities, so then the question is, what power did the SO6P (Rikudo) get from the Juubi.

The Juubi power granted to the SO6P​

Spoiler

Alot of people think that the ability that the Juubi gave the SO6P is the Rinnegan. But I have slowly and surely started to think otherwise. Personally I believe that the SO6P was half Uzumaki and half Hyuga and thus he was born with a Byakugan and through some way or another it transformed into the Rinnegan.

10 - Juubi the Progenitor/ Rikudo: ... Get Ready for this... Yin/Yang Release

I believe that the power passed down to the Rikudo was the Yin/Yang Release, it just makes the most sense to me. And thus with that power he transformed his Byakugan into the Rinnegan.

Conclusion​

Spoiler

Now I know that alot of people are looking at me crazy right now and that is normal because what I am proposing is pretty out there but it does make sense, it all adds up and explains how the Rikudo can use Yin/Yang Release.

Tied Ends​

Spoiler

This would then tie into Derp Obitos theory that the Juubi's corrupt chakra lingered on in the SO6P after it being sealed and over time the Descendants of the Rikudo's eyes slowly turned from the Rinnegan to the Juubi's eye, the Sharingan. Hence why the SO6P's son has spiral eyes rather than circular.

I hope you enjoyed the read ​

Nice stuff.

Few questions.
Dont you think Mokuton was a power that the sage gained from the Juubi as well (on top of yin yang release) and passed down Mokuton to the Senju ancestor?

Dont you need yin yang release to use Rinnegan? The uchiha ancestors eyes probably turned into sharingan indeed, but the spiral could have been an MS/EMS form maybe. Lot of possibilities about what kind of eye he had.

Btw you added improved fire release for Yugito, but Shukaku uses wind, so maybe wind should be added to Gaara and Water to Yagura, seeing the 3 tails using that power.

 

[Prime Rib]

the sage had the rinnegan before he sealed the 10 tails into him. yin-yang release? the sage had mastery over it

 

[GreyWizard93]

nice theory, i like 'crazy' ideas because its these ideas that get you thinking of many, many possibilities.

we will just wait and see.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

the sage had the rinnegan before he sealed the 10 tails into him. yin-yang release? the sage had mastery over it

We never saw any pictures of Rikudou before he was the Juubi Jinchuuriki.

But everything does seem to come from Juubi: Doujutsu, Mokuton, reality warping, the Bijuus, Sage Mode, etc.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Excellent work, either the Sage is Uzumaki or Half Uzumaki/Half Hyuuga is correct

 

[FearxDeath]

Nice stuff.

Few questions.
Dont you think Mokuton was a power that the sage gained from the Juubi as well (on top of yin yang release) and passed down Mokuton to the Senju ancestor?

Dont you need yin yang release to use Rinnegan? The uchiha ancestors eyes probably turned into sharingan indeed, but the spiral could have been an MS/EMS form maybe. Lot of possibilities about what kind of eye he had.

Btw you added improved fire release for Yugito, but Shukaku uses wind, so maybe wind should be added to Gaara and Water to Yagura, seeing the 3 tails using that power.

No to everything. Personally I dont think the SO6P could use all the elements as of right now, and I havent been given any real proof of this, if I had some good reason to believe he had mokuton i would, but i dont. x__x

You do not need yin yang release to use rinnegan, yin and yang release are a very complicated subject in themselves and I already created a thread regarding broadly how they work, ill link it so you can check it out. [

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Shukaka uses wind styles, that is true, but were not talking about what styles the bijuu use. We are talking about what specific powers the jinchuriki are able to access purely because they are jinchuriki. I have yet to see Gaara use windstyle, so why in the world would I put it down as a bijuu power that was granted to him? And yes the 3 tails uses water style, and I would be inclined to believe yagura got that from him if water style wasnt a common style and if yagura wasnt born in the village hidden in the mist where pretty much everyone is a water style user. What I am doing is pointing out the specific and rare abilities granted to the jinchuriki that are not easily accessible to other people. Ink style is extremely rare, lava and stream release are kekkie genkia that are also extremely rare. Water style is extremely common.

 

[FearxDeath]

the sage had the rinnegan before he sealed the 10 tails into him. yin-yang release? the sage had mastery over it

I like arbitrary statements as much as the next guy but do you have any proof that the SO6P had the rinnegan before he sealed the 10 tails or is this mere conjecture...not to mention how you frivolously say that he had mastery of yin/yang release, we get that. I say he got it from the juubi, you say he got it from?? Just mastering everything? Is this fact or conjecture?

 

[Meowazziel]

No to everything. Personally I dont think the SO6P could use all the elements as of right now, and I havent been given any real proof of this, if I had some good reason to believe he had mokuton i would, but i dont. x__x

You do not need yin yang release to use rinnegan, yin and yang release are a very complicated subject in themselves and I already created a thread regarding broadly how they work, ill link it so you can check it out. [

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Shukaka uses wind styles, that is true, but were not talking about what styles the bijuu use. We are talking about what specific powers the jinchuriki are able to access purely because they are jinchuriki. I have yet to see Gaara use windstyle, so why in the world would I put it down as a bijuu power that was granted to him? And yes the 3 tails uses water style, and I would be inclined to believe yagura got that from him if water style wasnt a common style and if yagura wasnt born in the village hidden in the mist where pretty much everyone is a water style user. What I am doing is pointing out the specific and rare abilities granted to the jinchuriki that are not easily accessible to other people. Ink style is extremely rare, lava and stream release are kekkie genkia that are also extremely rare. Water style is extremely common.

You dont count wind for Gaara and you dont count water for Yagura. However you put fire style for Yugito, but other cloud members have fire style too. Samui her brother for example has it. Gaara has windstyle in his wiki and he used it one time vs Sasuke in part1 (in combination with his sand shuriken I believe). Seems to me either count all normal elements that both the bijou and the jinc use or count none of the normal ones. Kurotsuchi, a non-jinc can use lava release and is a rock village member. Roshi, a rock village member, uses lava release as well so by your logic, you could decide not to count it as the bijou power that roshi received, but as a power that he would have without. Mei has lava release (mist). Dodai has lava release (cloud).

The Juubi uses Mokuton/seems to be made out of Mokuton. We have seen jincs get powers from their bijou.
So why would the sage not get Mokuton? and/or do you think only the senju ancestor was giving mokuton and eventually hashi got it as well?

 

[thegame]

Well I don't see, why the Juubi had to give him some kind of unique power comparable to those of the Bijuu's?
The Bijuu's powers have nothing to do with the Juubi. They were created by Ridukou, and they were given powers by him. It's just a stupid misconception. Whether he got rinnengan from the Juubi or not, is just an open discussion, but your thread nor any of the others on this topic, are all quite pointless, as it all just builds on "guesses". We need more information to make a proper theory.

 

[FearxDeath]

You dont count wind for Gaara and you dont count water for Yagura. However you put fire style for Yugito, but other cloud members have fire style too. Samui her brother for example has it. Gaara has windstyle in his wiki and he used it one time vs Sasuke in part1 (in combination with his sand shuriken I believe). Seems to me either count all normal elements that both the bijou and the jinc use or count none of the normal ones. Kurotsuchi, a non-jinc can use lava release and is a rock village member. Roshi, a rock village member, uses lava release as well so by your logic, you could decide not to count it as the bijou power that roshi received, but as a power that he would have without. Mei has lava release (mist). Dodai has lava release (cloud).

The Juubi uses Mokuton/seems to be made out of Mokuton. We have seen jincs get powers from their bijou.
So why would the sage not get Mokuton? and/or do you think only the senju ancestor was giving mokuton and eventually hashi got it as well?

Your spending too much time forming your opinion and not enough listening to what I am saying. First off I said that Yugito has improved fire style, what I am referring to is her ability to create blue fire which resembles the blue flames that make up her bijuus body. [

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]. Secondly when I brought up the other bijuu powers I specifically said "rare" and bolded this, and then after wards saying "not easily accessible" to further imply that other people could get them, yet you ignored them. I know mei also has steam release and a handfull of people have lava, but that is it common? No.. To be more specific people with those rare abilities are often at the top echolon with hokage and revered people. As I said before it is because these abilities are rare that I count them and it is because yugito has a rare improved fire style that I count hers as well. However I will not count any run of the mill things.

Yes the juubi has yin/yang release and we have seen other jincs get powers from there juubi, so why would the sage not not get yin/yang release? Why is mokuton special? so far the bijuus havent granted any power that isnt accessible to humans one way or the other, more or less, which is what started this conversation in the first place. Mokuton is merely being born with both water style and earth style. It is just as rare as any other kekkie genkia and less rare than a kekkia tota like tsuchikages dust release. So if mokuton IS accesible to humans without the juubi then why exactly are we trying to find a link between it and the SO6P simply because the juubi is mokuton... long story shortly i dont think mokuton has anything to do with anyone, I think hashi was just a lucky guy born with wood release, it wasnt passed down by the SO6P or in the senju lineage, he is just lucky. No other senju has gotten mokuton before, no one else in the world has ever had it. Hashi was lucky enough to be born with a cool kekkia genkia and now people want to blow it out of porportion.

Think about how rare it is, I mean you could be born with wood release and end up being a manager at a super market and never even know you had it. You could be born with it and die at birth or when you are really young, or just never become a ninja. He was lucky enough to be born with it. Not to mention that Yamato has it too but cant use it to the extent that Hashi can simply because he is not as good a ninja as hashi. IMO wood release only seems overpowered because hashi was using it, if hashi was born with steam release instead we would all be saying how unfair it is to have steam release and how the SO6P must have passed it down to him...

 

[Meowazziel]

Your spending too much time forming your opinion and not enough listening to what I am saying. First off I said that Yugito has improved fire style, what I am referring to is her ability to create blue fire which resembles the blue flames that make up her bijuus body. [

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]. Secondly when I brought up the other bijuu powers I specifically said "rare" and bolded this, and then after wards saying "not easily accessible" to further imply that other people could get them, yet you ignored them. I know mei also has steam release and a handfull of people have lava, but that is it common? No.. To be more specific people with those rare abilities are often at the top echolon with hokage and revered people. As I said before it is because these abilities are rare that I count them and it is because yugito has a rare improved fire style that I count hers as well. However I will not count any run of the mill things.

Yes the juubi has yin/yang release and we have seen other jincs get powers from there juubi, so why would the sage not not get yin/yang release? Why is mokuton special? so far the bijuus havent granted any power that isnt accessible to humans one way or the other, more or less, which is what started this conversation in the first place. Mokuton is merely being born with both water style and earth style. It is just as rare as any other kekkie genkia and less rare than a kekkia tota like tsuchikages dust release. So if mokuton IS accesible to humans without the juubi then why exactly are we trying to find a link between it and the SO6P simply because the juubi is mokuton... long story shortly i dont think mokuton has anything to do with anyone, I think hashi was just a lucky guy born with wood release, it wasnt passed down by the SO6P or in the senju lineage, he is just lucky. No other senju has gotten mokuton before, no one else in the world has ever had it. Hashi was lucky enough to be born with a cool kekkia genkia and now people want to blow it out of porportion.

Think about how rare it is, I mean you could be born with wood release and end up being a manager at a super market and never even know you had it. You could be born with it and die at birth or when you are really young, or just never become a ninja. He was lucky enough to be born with it. Not to mention that Yamato has it too but cant use it to the extent that Hashi can simply because he is not as good a ninja as hashi. IMO wood release only seems overpowered because hashi was using it, if hashi was born with steam release instead we would all be saying how unfair it is to have steam release and how the SO6P must have passed it down to him...

Dude I have listened to what you are saying but I have never seen Yugito use blue fire in the manga. She might use it, when the anime gets to the point of Yugito as Edo attacking Bee, but so far, blue fire has not been proven. Her bijou cat form is blue, but the fire the cat fired, was orange red. Maybe her fire jutsu will be blue, i wouldnt be surprised if it is, but I have never seen her use blue fire in the manga or anime.
If there is some cannon picture or footage about her using blue fire as a fire attack, than I have missed that (or is the picture you linked based on a cannon picture? Link that one in that case please).
Btw there was no mentioning of blue fire in your opening post. It was written as improved fire style and since she uses some sort of rat hair balls who are on fire and are guided missles if I remember correct from the manga, I assumed that was the improved fire part. I couldnt know anything about the blue part, but I did read the improved fire part.

I know you said rare, but if someone can get lava release without bijou (even if its rare), than it doesnt HAVE TO come from a bijou for Roshi. He probably has it from the bijou, I believe that too, but he doesnt have to. Kurotsuchi has it too and she doesnt have a bijou.
However what is possible, is that the lava release users in the series, are somehow linked to the first lava release user or it happens by some other means.

Dont write things like me not reading well and ignoring things, when it is not the case.
I can read everything carefully enough, but that doesnt have to mean that i agree with everything.

It is possible that Hashi could be lucky, but it is also possible that he has Mokuton, because it was in active form in him and maybe dormant in other senju. That it was passed down from the senju ancestor, the younger son, to Hashirama.
If Sharingan is a Juubi power, than it isnt weird to think that Mokuton is so as well. Seeing how the Juubi and bijou are controlled by Mokuton and Sharingan powers. Sharingan and Mokuton seem to complement each other really well.

I never said yin yang wasnt a Juubi and Sage power btw. The manga even said the sage has it.
It is required to do several jutsu. You need it to control the gedo as well. So that was basically already fact for me (even though it isnt 100% fact in the manga yet, that it came from the Juubi, but pretty close to it. I believe it as well).
I think the sage was given Mokuton and dojutsu power as well, on top of yin yang release.

I feel like Mokuton is different from steam release. Even though Hashi is a great ninja, Mokuton is something that creates life. Steam isnt life. I dont think Hashi would be able to make as great a name for steam release, as he can for Mokuton, even though he would probably be better at it than others.

I hope you can see that I did read your posts carefully enough, but I just dont agree with every single thing.