Danzo vs Minato

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Minato would have the upperhand in Melee. Its not like their forced to trade blows, Minato is more than capable of winning in CQC.

He is not force to do anything he eventually has no choice. In order to land a hit you have to be physical as shown of a scan Bee was doing counter Minato's speed blitz
 

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He is not force to do anything he eventually has no choice. In order to land a hit you have to be physical as shown of a scan Bee was doing counter Minato's speed blitz

What does that have to do with Minato? What are we even debating about? Tangibility has nothing to do with Minato or Danzo.

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What does that have to do with Minato? What are we even debating about? Tangibility has nothing to do with Minato or Danzo.

Also, 1000 posts <3

Minato is a close range fighter. He uses Ftg to escape attacks. As a close range fighter you did to land a hit to win. If a Cunning ninja like Danzo were to encounter this he can abuse his god mode and wait for Minato to appear to him. Once tries to get up close again Danzo has the chance to imprint him as he is expecting to get killed again much like this:
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Minato is a close range fighter. He uses Ftg to escape attacks. As a close range fighter you did to land a hit to win. If a Cunning ninja like Danzo were to encounter this he can abuse his god mode and wait for Minato to appear to him. Once tries to get up close again Danzo has the chance to imprint him as he is expecting to get killed again much like this:
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Alright, now that we got that cleared up the debate will run more smoothly.

Your point is valid, Manga intel means that Minato is unlikely to know of Danzō's Juinjutsu. Though this wasn't something that Danzo was able to spam, this can also be avoided if Minato's Tag can stay imprinted on Danzo after Izanagi respawns him.
 

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Alright, now that we got that cleared up the debate will run more smoothly.

Your point is valid, Manga intel means that Minato is unlikely to know of Danzō's Juinjutsu. Though this wasn't something that Danzo was able to spam, this can also be avoided if Minato's Tag can stay imprinted on Danzo after Izanagi respawns him.

Danzo was very secretive person and was only known for being the embodiment of darkness (from Raikages words) I don't see how Minato will know his tricks up his sleeves. Danzo wasn't able to spam this because of the encounter with Sussanoo. If you look carefully in that fight you notice that he always trys to get close to Sasuke like is gong to do something to Sussanoo. And the perfect example was when he still tried to when he open a gap to enter Sussanoo. What did he plan to do in that Gap? Defensibility not to try to win inside with Taijutsu. Also I don't think its nesccary to spam it as he only needs to do it once in Minato's case.

As for imprinting Danzo also It seems in the manga Izanagi can choose to escape anything that happen to them so if he is imprinted and dies he can make "that never happened".
 

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Touch a nerve did I? The more the goes on, the more butthurt your getting.
Talking about yourself? I use to talk like this in debate but it seems not to be your case, so i understand why you can be that butthurt about this


Manga gave Minato the fastest alive title before Naruto came along. This hype was also do Hiriashin, which is not what were debating here.
How can a dead be considered as the fastest alive? Don't you find your statement BS along with all the crap you use to say? No, Minato was considered the fastest ever. It's Raikage the one who was considered the fastest alive since Minato's death. Also, mangapage where it's stated Naruto was faster than Minato? I say mangapage coming from Naruto the manga not from your imaginary/delusional Naruto dreamland.

Even with Hiriashin, it was already implied that Raikage would have hit him the second go around [ ]
You mean that's what you wanted to see/happen? Cuz last time i check even after Minato always outsped him judging by the fact he claims inferiority with no contest possible even decades after. But obviously in your delusional land you didn't read/wanted to understand this mangapage at all

Naruto already proved himself faster and has used that speed on multiple occasions, the only speed A kept up with was Naruto's unenhanced speed. Dilude yourself with whatever crap you want to fill your head with, but this fact isn't changing.
Lol V1 Raikage was not only keeping up with Naruto, but Naruto and Bee together:

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Those are facts you don't want to see or accept because your blinded by fanboyism. Once again can you show me the mangapage where Naruto blitzed someone since Kisame that happened more than 150 chapters ago? It never happened because he is still uncapable to control his speed. Even after the meeting with Raikage, he was still complaining about that:

The difference between Raikage, Minato and Naruto is that Raikage and Minato can control their speed in every circumstances and thus could use them more efficiently in battle, not like Naruto's speed which is more random and could sometime back fire at him:


Its not hard when its an instant S/T Jutsu. His feat isn't even close to Naruto as Naruto dodged it with Shunshin and was massively faster.
1- Naruto kept a much greater distance from than Raikage than Minato
2- Raikage even had (who already even had knowledge on his speed) before that he was coming when in Minato's case he went all out without warning his opponent during the first attack(so no knowledge on Minato's side)
3- Minato was immobile from the start when Naruto was in motion(so in a accelerating position)
4- Naruto only dodged the attack, when Minato dodge it only after preparing his counter-attack(by launching kunai above A at the last second)

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And using said left kunai

Inb4 anime doesn't count, entire studio is stupid, only my delusional opinion count

It's Naruto's feat that is not even close to Minato's

Keep this coming, its hilarious. [/FONT]
Unfortunately i won't be on the base very often now to read and laugh at your stupidities, but i'm glad to see that other posters are not as delusional as you're

when was this said? Minato waited for A to come (run) close to him and he didnt even care about As speed in the first place!.when battling a platoon,FTG is more benefitial than shunshin and thats the prime reason Minato used it.if not,he would have used shunshin.

At least i could see the difference between arguing with them and arguing with a stone like you:
 
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Talking about yourself? I use to talk like this in debate but it seems not to be your case, so i understand why you can be that butthurt about this

Your the one throwing around insults. I'm cool as a cucumber.

How can a dead be considered as the fastest alive? Don't you find your statement BS along with all the crap you use to say? No, Minato was considered the fastest ever. It's Raikage the one who was considered the fastest alive since Minato's death. Also, mangapage where it's stated Naruto was faster than Minato? I say mangapage coming from Naruto the manga not from your imaginary/delusional Naruto dreamland.

I could ask for one saying that Minato was faster than Naruto. Though it would be a pointless endeavor since it should be common knowledge that Naruto is faster. Minato dodged A's Shunshin by the skin of his teeth whilst Naruto dodged it easily with Shunshin. Big difference.

You mean that's what you wanted to see/happen? Cuz last time i check even after Minato always outsped him judging by the fact he claims inferiority with no contest possible even decades after. But obviously in your delusional land you didn't read/wanted to understand this mangapage at all

Ohohoho, more off screen hype. None of that changes the fact that A was going to hit him, Hiriashin is the only reason Minato was able to dodge him and you should know that.

Lol V1 Raikage was not only keeping up with Naruto, but Naruto and Bee together:

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Those are facts you don't want to see or accept because your blinded by fanboyism. Once again can you show me the mangapage where Naruto blitzed someone since Kisame that happened more than 150 chapters ago? It never happened because he is still uncapable to control his speed. Even after the meeting with Raikage, he was still complaining about that:

You do realize that Minato has never blitzed anyone as S/T doesn't count as a blitz. Naruto also blitzed Obito and Madara to block their attacks, blitzed Zetsu's to block Hinato, blitzed Toroi, and overcame the Third Raikage's speed with unenhanced Speed.

The difference between Raikage, Minato and Naruto is that Raikage and Minato can control their speed in every circumstances and thus could use them more efficiently in battle, not like Naruto's speed which is more random and could sometime back fire at him:

The second scan isn't even confirmed to be about speed. Moot.

The first one was before he trained with Bee and perfected his speed. Moot.


1- Naruto kept a much greater distance from than Raikage than Minato
2- Raikage even had (who already even had knowledge on his speed) before that he was coming when in Minato's case he went all out without warning his opponent during the first attack(so no knowledge on Minato's side)
3- Minato was immobile from the start when Naruto was in motion(so in a accelerating position)
4- Naruto only dodged the attack, when Minato dodge it only after preparing his counter-attack(by launching kunai above A at the last second)

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And using said left kunai

Inb4 anime doesn't count, entire studio is stupid, only my delusional opinion count

It's Naruto's feat that is not even close to Minato's

Your not getting the point. Minato barely reacted at all. Naruto was moving out of the way to keep Tsunade out of danger. None of what you said changes the fact that Naruto was massively faster than Raikage as he didn't begin his dodge until he began Shunshin.

Quit with the "He was setting up a counter attack". Minato was only able to release a Kunai in the time that it took A to cover that distance and come inches form his face.


Unfortunately i won't be on the base very often now to read and laugh at your stupidities, but i'm glad to see that other posters are not as delusional as you're

Have fun while me and KidGamer sit back and huck it up at how fanatical you are.
 

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i dont see any proof here about Raikage being faster than Minato and Naruto being faster than Both of them.
 

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i dont see any proof here about Raikage being faster than Minato and Naruto being faster than Both of them.

Him needing FTG to dodge A says that he is slower than him on foot. Naruto was already shown to be faster than A, to dodge his full speed punch how he did, he needs to move faster than him.
 

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Him needing FTG to dodge A says that he is slower than him on foot.

Not really.

Ay attacked him without a warning, doubt Minato was going to attack him.

He -is- slower than Ay, but not because of that particular feat.

However, it does prove Naruto is a TON faster than the raikage since he dodged Ay in the same situation.
 

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Not really.

Ay attacked him without a warning, doubt Minato was going to attack him.

He -is- slower than Ay, but not because of that particular feat.

However, it does prove Naruto is a TON faster than the raikage since he dodged Ay in the same situation.

well, then what instance shows Minato to be slower than Ay?
 
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