Who's resolve are you siding with? Naruto's, or Sasuke?

[saw2097]

Sasuke doesn't even know the Tailed beasts are in the Juubi...the only people who saw that was Naruto,Bee,Gai,Kakashi,Madara and Obito...so, i don't know where you got Sasuke wanting to kill the Tailed Beasts when he didn't even know if they're are in the Juubi.....Sasuke is only trying to kill the Juubi in his eyes and if they don't he and Shinobi alliance don't do that.....the Juubi would not show any mercy and would kill the them the first chance he gets......its kill or be killed

Reread the chapter, Naruto told him he could extract the tailed beasts solving the problem without anyone else dying.


Then Sasuke said it wasn't good enough, he made it crystal clear what his intentions are. And Sasuke tried to capture the 8 tails and used to work for Akatsuki so of course he knows the tailed beasts are inside of it.

 

[Sabaku No Gaara100]

Reread the chapter, Naruto told him he could extract the tailed beasts solving the problem without anyone else dying.


Then Sasuke said it wasn't good enough, he made it crystal clear what his intentions are. And Sasuke tried to capture the 8 tails and used to work for Akatsuki so of course he knows the tailed beasts are inside of it.

Lol, my bad man, but Sasuke didn't talk to the Tailed Beasts.....in fact no one talk to the tailed beasts and understood them except for Naruto.....90% of the Shinobi Allinace still hate Bijuus and Sasuke shouldn't be different since he never had the chance to understand and talk to the Bijuus like Naruto did....in Sasuke's eyes...the Bijjus are dangerous and evil beings who kill people and destroy villages.

 

[iNotorious]

Lol, my bad man, but Sasuke didn't talk to the Tailed Beasts.....in fact no one talk to the tailed beasts and understood them except for Naruto.....90% of the Shinobi Allinace still hate Bijuus and Sasuke shouldn't be different since he never had the chance to understand and talk to the Bijuus like Naruto did....in Sasuke's eyes...the Bijjus are dangerous and evil beings who kill people and destroy villages.

The humans made them to kill humans.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Ever think that the problem resides in humans, and not tailed beasts? Humans need to give up their sense of dominion, in order to achieve peace. We shoulld not decide who 'gets to control a tailed beast' or who gets to seal it away. Taied beasts are a part of nature. What right would the uuman race have to enslave an immortal being. None. Don't enslave them, don't fight them, don't fear them. Befriend them.

You talk about peace, and mention enslavement and murder in the same sentance? This is why we don't have peace.

People are ignorant fools.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Naruto since he is the person that will guide the bijuus to the right path like SO6P said

 

[GrayParadise]

I'm siding with Sasuke by the way. People pull the 'bijuu's were innocent creatures who knew no wrong' card before thinking.
Before being sealed into a Jin, they constantly attacked villages and went on rampages for no reason. Until befriended by somebody, they were always swelled up with anger and too prideful to give anybody a chance or try talking to them.

And I know Son Goku was the main prideful one, but the others were just as proud of themselves as he was. They weren't as expressive of it was all.

 

[htmwall]

I'm siding with Sasuke by the way. People pull the 'bijuu's were innocent creatures who knew no wrong' card before thinking.
Before being sealed into a Jin, they constantly attacked villages and went on rampages for no reason. Until befriended by somebody, they were always swelled up with anger and too prideful to give anybody a chance or try talking to them.

And I know Son Goku was the main prideful one, but the others were just as proud of themselves as he was. They weren't as expressive of it was all.

give me a proof that bijuu attacked villages on their own accord for the fun of it.matter of fact bijuu always isolated themselves from the rest of the world,look at 3 tails it retreated to a lake away from people,same for kurama until humans started chasing them.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

I'm siding with Sasuke by the way. People pull the 'bijuu's were innocent creatures who knew no wrong' card before thinking.
Before being sealed into a Jin, they constantly attacked villages and went on rampages for no reason. Until befriended by somebody, they were always swelled up with anger and too prideful to give anybody a chance or try talking to them.

And I know Son Goku was the main prideful one, but the others were just as proud of themselves as he was. They weren't as expressive of it was all.

How do you know they had no reason? They could, and probably did, have reasons for all of their pent up anger. If you recall Naruto, He was full of anger and hate before people befriended him.
Since they are immortal, and the Sage put them in different parts of the world, they were totally alone. Sure they were surrounded by life, but no one ever tried to befriend them... They were totally alone. For GENERATIONS.

And what happens when Kurama gets his first friend? Hes friendly back.

This doesn't stop the fact that humans are at fault here. Not the TB. Enslavement is wrong.

 

[saw2097]

I'm siding with Sasuke by the way. People pull the 'bijuu's were innocent creatures who knew no wrong' card before thinking.
Before being sealed into a Jin, they constantly attacked villages and went on rampages for no reason. Until befriended by somebody, they were always swelled up with anger and too prideful to give anybody a chance or try talking to them.

And I know Son Goku was the main prideful one, but the others were just as proud of themselves as he was. They weren't as expressive of it was all.

Tell me if someone shoved you inside a body and enslaved you, would you be angry.

The Tailed Beasts were just taking revenge from fights that humans started.

 

[GrayParadise]

give me a proof that bijuu attacked villages on their own accord for the fun of it.matter of fact bijuu always isolated themselves from the rest of the world,look at 3 tails it retreated to a lake away from people,same for kurama until humans started chasing them.

Ibosu or whatever the 3 tailed guy was would've wreaked freaking HAVOC for no reason if he got unleashed from Rin. There's no denying this.
Shukaku was always a blood thirsty beast, he fought for fun. We know this.
Goku is self exaplanitory.
We don't know enough about the 2, 5 or 6 tails.
Hachibi would constantly return to the village and go on a rampage every time the 3rd took him out, just for the sake of coming back.
And Kurama... we'v'e seen his character from before Naruto befriended him. He hated everything.

How do you know they had no reason? They could, and probably did, have reasons for all of their pent up anger. If you recall Naruto, He was full of anger and hate before people befriended him.
Since they are immortal, and the Sage put them in different parts of the world, they were totally alone. Sure they were surrounded by life, but no one ever tried to befriend them... They were totally alone. For GENERATIONS.

And what happens when Kurama gets his first friend? Hes friendly back.

This doesn't stop the fact that humans are at fault here. Not the TB. Enslavement is wrong.

I agree with you for the most part, but hey, can't be helped. The damage is already done.

Tell me if someone shoved you inside a body and enslaved you, would you be angry.

The Tailed Beasts were just taking revenge from fights that humans started.

I definitely would be for sure, angry beyond words. But I personally have good self control, can't speak for everyone else.

I would instead escape from them so that I'm away from the threat. That would be the smart thing to do. And you just admitted that they kept on trying to get revenge, which doesn't really help the case.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Ibosu or whatever the 3 tailed guy was would've wreaked freaking HAVOC for no reason if he got unleashed from Rin. There's no denying this.
Shukaku was always a blood thirsty beast, he fought for fun. We know this.
Goku is self exaplanitory.
We don't know enough about the 2, 5 or 6 tails.
Hachibi would constantly return to the village and go on a rampage every time the 3rd took him out, just for the sake of coming back.
And Kurama... we'v'e seen his character from before Naruto befriended him. He hated everything.

I agree with you for the most part, but hey, can't be helped. The damage is already done.

I definitely would be for sure, angry beyond words. But I personally have good self control, can't speak for everyone else.

I would instead escape from them so that I'm away from the threat. That would be the smart thing to do. And you just admitted that they kept on trying to get revenge, which doesn't really help the case.

Damage is done. Now what? Tailed beasts are immortal, and they currently pose a threat to humanity. enslaving them or sealing them is moarally wrong. So, now what? In order to protect future generations, one must have an answer that will stand through time. Any sealing, or jinjuriki making, is not only morally wrong, but temporary and will pose a threat in the future.

If a village makes deep bonds with the tailed beast, that bond will stay eternal as long as it is on both ends. If children are raised loving a tailed beast, the tailed beast would love them back. That bond would also mean that the village is under that tailed beasts protection.

Having seperate villages is trouble some. But its not impossible to have true, everlasting peace between villages and the tailed beasts

 

[GrayParadise]

Damage is done. Now what? Tailed beasts are immortal, and they currently pose a threat to humanity. enslaving them or sealing them is moarally wrong. So, now what? In order to protect future generations, one must have an answer that will stand through time. Any sealing, or jinjuriki making, is not only morally wrong, but temporary and will pose a threat in the future.

If a village makes deep bonds with the tailed beast, that bond will stay eternal as long as it is on both ends. If children are raised loving a tailed beast, the tailed beast would love them back. That bond would also mean that the village is under that tailed beasts protection.

Having seperate villages is trouble some. But its not impossible to have true, everlasting peace between villages and the tailed beasts

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the main message you were saying is 'you have a point, but it 's only a temporary resolve'?

In this case, I can't argue, you're right. It is only temporary. Sasuke has no sealing techs, but he can sure as hell buy the world some peace before they're reborn. That way maybe they can prioritize their system and come up with a resolve especially for the Bijuus where they can live in harmony.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the main message you were saying is 'you have a point, but it 's only a temporary resolve'?

In this case, I can't argue, you're right. It is only temporary. Sasuke has no sealing techs, but he can sure as hell buy the world some peace before they're reborn. That way maybe they can prioritize their system and come up with a resolve especially for the Bijuus where they can live in harmony.

That is not exactally what I meant, but close.

I think there is a problem with the whole "Sauske killing the Juubi" thing. If they are capable to defeat it, what would make it come back as the bijuu? It would be they Juubi again. The only way to get the Tailed beasts back is by extracting them.

Plus, if the juubi is killed, why would the Tailed beasts be friendly with the humans? Not everyone can be as level headed as you.

If the alliance kills the Juubi, the Juubi will come back--pissed.

Why would that be a good start to peace?

 

[theacknowledgedone]

I'm with Naruto, I think his emotions have always lead him in the right direction pulling everyone along with him.

 

[Sot6p]

That is not exactally what I meant, but close.

I think there is a problem with the whole "Sauske killing the Juubi" thing. If they are capable to defeat it, what would make it come back as the bijuu? It would be they Juubi again. The only way to get the Tailed beasts back is by extracting them.

Plus, if the juubi is killed, why would the Tailed beasts be friendly with the humans? Not everyone can be as level headed as you.

If the alliance kills the Juubi, the Juubi will come back--pissed.

Why would that be a good start to peace?

And not only that.
Many shinobi died. The nations are weakened.
There is no guarantee that, in the future, people will be prepared for the Juubi.
Honestly, people are prepared NOW. And that's just because of an alliance, two outstandingly strong(Sasuke and Naruto) individuals and a bunch of revived old geezers.

Next time, I doubt even an alliance would be there.

 

[cmilius]

Speaking of sense, it appears that sasuke fans are out of their mind.

First of all, the bijuu can't be killed and they weren't evil at all but the shinobi with eyes and others made them like that... with that being said, naruto does have a point. changing the bijuu's are the only solutions because if you try to kill them and return, they will try to revenge themselves.

Basically, try to get rid of the bijuu mean that you must get rid of the people who does have power because naruto and sasuke will eventually find someone later in life who is stronger than them and will use the hate the bijuu possess for the people who tried to get rid of them somehow.

I am sided with Naruto on this one because he has knowledge of bijuu, more reasonable and more level headed when it comes to the safety of the 5 great nations.

 

[takiyacrowz]

i say kill every last uchiha in this earth.
bijju are harmless if left alone.

 

[Sarahmint]

The prophesy on the tablet is "peace will be achieved when two opposing forces come together".

That should answer your question.

 

[Ultimatum]

Speaking of sense, it appears that sasuke fans are out of their mind.

First of all, the bijuu can't be killed and they weren't evil at all but the shinobi with eyes and others made them like that... with that being said, naruto does have a point. changing the bijuu's are the only solutions because if you try to kill them and return, they will try to revenge themselves.

Basically, try to get rid of the bijuu mean that you must get rid of the people who does have power because naruto and sasuke will eventually find someone later in life who is stronger than them and will use the hate the bijuu possess for the people who tried to get rid of them somehow.

I am sided with Naruto on this one because he has knowledge of bijuu, more reasonable and more level headed when it comes to the safety of the 5 great nations.

This^^. I can't even fathom why this is even being debated.

 

[Sephy100]

People just keep talking Naruto's way is the best way but won't explain how the bijuu's would be divided up, where would they go, who's to say that hundreds of people won't start wars to get the bijuu again, and who's to say that they won't go around destroying things again. Naruto just wants to TnJ people and that's al he ever does.

Sasuke's plan to destroy the bijuu is a better one. And even if he couldn't then he would more than likely want a way to get rid of them permanently, most likely by sealing them, so that they don't start wars and have people die needlessly.

A lot of you Naruto supporters don't look at the big picture. And to the dickrider that called me a Sasuke dickride and when I called him the same thing, just for Naruto, back got all butthurt and neg rep'd me: U Mad Bro?