Kakashi >= Obito

[Bogard]

Some people keep saying that Obito shits on Kakashi despite recent events. Don't know why those people always like to contradict the manga. How does Obito actually defeat Kakashi?

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. Eventhough Obito can remain intangible, he needs to be tangible to make the contact necessary to warp the enemy and like we've seen already even surprised by Obito's sudden apparition, Kakashi

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in the other dimension at the same moment Obito did with him. So basically even if Obito were to try to make the contact to warp Kakashi, Kakashi could be able to warp him faster than him and in the other dimension

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- Not only that, but even if Kakashi weren't warping him, warping Kakashi would still be useless since the guy

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so it doesn't count as a defeat even if he were to warp him there

What would Obito do to kill him then? Go to the other dimension to lose his intangibility advantage?

Just to remind you, Obito already said Kakashi had

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, stabbing each other and i won't be surprised if next week it turns out to be a clone from Kakashi

I myself doesn't like the way it goes, but it's clearly how Kishi portrayed them. Don't know why people keep trying to live in denial

 

[walt72nt]

but Kakashi can't Rinnegan

 

[EZQ]

Obito > Kakashi

Obito without kamui (because they can't use it kamui dimension) < Kakashi without kamui

Is not the same, kakashi's signarure jutsu, the one that allows him to be up there with the strongest, doesn't work against obito so nah if kamui is allowed for both obito stopms

 

[Aggregator]

Obito can kill him the same way he Konan, by strangling him.

 

[LIBRA]

Some people keep saying that Obito shits on Kakashi despite recent events. Don't know why those people always like to contradict the manga. How does Obito actually defeat Kakashi?

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. Eventhough Obito can remain intangible, he needs to be tangible to make the contact necessary to warp the enemy and like we've seen already even surprised by Obito's sudden apparition, Kakashi

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in the other dimension at the same moment Obito did with him. So basically even if Obito were to try to make the contact to warp Kakashi, Kakashi could be able to warp him faster than him and in the other dimension

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- Not only that, but even if Kakashi weren't warping him, warping Kakashi would still be useless since the guy

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so it doesn't count as a defeat even if he were to warp him there

What would Obito do to kill him then? Go to the other dimension to lose his intangibility advantage?

Just to remind you, Obito already said Kakashi had

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Now we see

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, stabbing each other and i won't be surprised if next week it turns out to be a clone from Kakashi

I myself doesn't like the way it goes, but it's clearly how Kishi portrayed them. Don't know why people keep trying to live in denial

Kishi's not allowing for a character to use all their abilities to the fullest so that the story could move on is not a valid enough reason to start saying.....

because of what we've seen so far A > B

or

we haven't seen this character use this power so this means that he/she does not have it, therefore A > B

 

[Sephy100]

Last time I checked Kakashi didn't control any of the tailed beasts. Sorry but Obito is stronger.
#dealwithit

 

[Aggregator]

Kakashi had multiple chances of killing him ALL thanks to Kurama and Naruto. Obito had multiple chances of killing him too, and if it weren't for Naruto, Kakashi would've been killed by Obito. If Obito went one on one with Kakashi, he'd win, easy-mid difficulty. He can't suck him in? Ok, lol, he can just kill him by snapping his neck or strangling him like he did multiple anbu and Konan, an S Rank Ninja.

 

[Aenigma]

Last time I checked Kakashi didn't control any of the tailed beasts. Sorry but Obito is stronger.
#dealwithit

Okay I'm sorry but that is a horrible thing to use as evidence that Obito > Kakashi because I mean, that's something only Obito would do what possible reason would Kakashi have to even do that?

I'm not even going to take a side in this discussion but that doesn't even make sense.

 

[-immortal-]

how do you know

 

[hyuuga teddy]

War arc Kakashi shits on Obito

 

[Invsblphntm]

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Sorry, I can not agree with this thread at all.

It is not how they are portrayed at all.

Obito fought Kakashi, Kirabi, Naruto, and Gai at the same time. Kakashi is merely a support for Naruto.

The only point where they are on the same level is in the Kamui dimension.


In fact, its hard to say they are on the same level there either.

Obito has near infinite chakra reserves, Kakashi has below average.

Obito has Mokuton and huge Katon, Kakashi has Raiton worse than Sasuke's.

Obito has the Rinnegan and Sharingan, Kakashi has merely a Sharingan.

The fact that you believe Kakashi is stronger is just.... wrong.

 

[Bieber]

War arc Kakashi shits on Obito

Are you joking?

 

[Aggregator]

You're completely ignoring the chapters where Obito soloed Bee, Kakashi, Guy and Naruto. Kakashi isn't stronger than Obito. He has the gedo mazo, and the six biju. Plus, Obito's stamina is way better than Kakashi's. He summoned the gedo mazo TWICE, he controlled the tailed beasts, he took 2 rasengans, and he took a couple of good blows from Kakashi when they found out that Obito's body parts goes into his dimension when he's intangible.

 

[Parrish]

War arc Kakashi shits on Obito

Your sarcasm is pretty obvious. Try to hide it better next time.

 

[Moegi of Akatsuki]

I usually say that kakashi is the one shot emperor but damn man you are a fanboy

 

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[aimop95]

Clones don't bleed. They go poof or turn into whatever substance that they were made up of.

Kakashi in terms of close combat probably beats Obito hands down. But Obito in overall combat has the MASSIVE advantage of Kamui intangibility and the ability to spam that jutsu with no side effects shown. Kakashi on the other hand, has been shown to have a limit to his Kamui ability. That makes it 10x more difficult for him to win a one on one fight against Obito if they were using their Kamui abilities.

However, they are not, so Kakashi has the advantage here.

 

[Bogard]

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Sorry, I can not agree with this thread at all.

It is not how they are portrayed at all.

Obito fought Kakashi, Kirabi, Naruto, and Gai at the same time. Kakashi is merely a support for Naruto.

The only point where they are on the same level is in the Kamui dimension.


In fact, its hard to say they are on the same level there either.

Obito has near infinite chakra reserves, Kakashi has below average.

Obito has Mokuton and huge Katon, Kakashi has Raiton worse than Sasuke's.

Obito has the Rinnegan and Sharingan, Kakashi has merely a Sharingan.

The fact that you believe Kakashi is stronger is just.... wrong.

Wrong only Obito portrayed to be fighting Kakashi, Naruto, Gai and Bee together is the one they had no knowledge about. Currently with full knowledge they already have on his capacity, Obito isn't replicating that feat. In fact it's more portrayed that in this condition, Kakashi is his equal or stronger like i'm saying

You're completely ignoring the chapters where Obito soloed Bee, Kakashi, Guy and Naruto. Kakashi isn't stronger than Obito. He has the gedo mazo, and the six biju. Plus, Obito's stamina is way better than Kakashi's. He summoned the gedo mazo TWICE, he controlled the tailed beasts, he took 2 rasengans, and he took a couple of good blows from Kakashi when they found out that Obito's body parts goes into his dimension when he's intangible.

As stated above. It's without knowledge on Obito's capacities that Obito was capable to handle all of them. With knowledge, Obito would have been defeated since long time ago by them. Obito may have more chakra, but Kakashi is more efficient as a ninja than him. He doesn't need 2kamuis to put an opponent in difficulties in the contrary of Obito

Clones don't bleed. They go poof or turn into whatever substance that they were made up of.

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[Fateh Muhammad khan]

I'm sorry the people above me have given you enough evidence. i'd like to add however the fact that Obito can use his kimui many more times than kakashi+kakashi is not a uchiha therefore he does not have enough chakra as Obito. Just some facts.:erm:

 

[AGoodBoy]

Let me get this straight. You think kakashi beats a mokuton and rinnegan user? Well okay. Maybe he should fight madara instead of hashi.