[VS] Neji Vs Sasori

Winner:

  • Sasori

    Votes: 12 63.2%
  • Neji

    Votes: 7 36.8%

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AGoodBoy

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Restriction: Manga feats - ex. We don't know what sasori's other human puppets are capable of.






So, There was a thread recently about Hinata Vs Sasori, and though that match seemed bit 'ridiculous', it was actually a very decent match. Infact, Doujutsu's are the worse possible matchups for sasori as they allow the dojutsu user to see 'more' than the average person:
-Sharingan sees his chakra strings and heart, and is able to read the minute details of his movements
-Byakugan Sees his chakra strings and heart, and is able to see all directions

Thus, A sharingan, or byakugan user (won't mention rinnegan since we all know a rinnegan user is a bad match for just about everyone) would possess abilities that Sasori cannot completely contend with.

I won't make this post long, but i'll jut down a few points.

  • A byakugan user's 360* degree field of vision is a perfect counter for 100 puppet army.
  • The chakra viewing abilities allow them a permanent view of sasori's chakra heart and his strings. We know that chakra strings move in a certain way to pull the puppet in a certain direction. An experienced byakugan user could exploit this to enhance predictions of sasori's attacks. Along with their 'binocular' and 'spherical' vision, they can use this to both predict sasori's puppet attacks, and see the potentia movement of his hearts into other puppets.
  • Byakugan users also possess clan specific abilities that revolve around manipulating their, and their opponents' chakra, thus, a seasoned byakugan user could use the abilities of vacuum palm, and 8 trigram: Rotation to counter the many abilities of sasori. Even his satetsu abilities are reduced to nothing in the face of an 8 Trigram: Rotation.

The thing is, byakugan users possess many abilities that are able to effectively counter all of sasori's abilities and cover all possible angles of attack. Because of this, and because it is required that sasori scratches his opponent to beat him, it becomes highly unlikely that a byakugan user would lose to him. But, the biggest issue I have is;

Would a byakugan user have the offensive power to stop sasori?
 

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Restriction: Manga feats - ex. We don't know what sasori's other human puppets are capable of.






So, There was a thread recently about Hinata Vs Sasori, and though that match seemed bit 'ridiculous', it was actually a very decent match. Infact, Doujutsu's are the worse possible matchups for sasori as they allow the dojutsu user to see 'more' than the average person:
-Sharingan sees his chakra strings and heart, and is able to read the minute details of his movements
-Byakugan Sees his chakra strings and heart, and is able to see all directions

Thus, A sharingan, or byakugan user (won't mention rinnegan since we all know a rinnegan user is a bad match for just about everyone) would possess abilities that Sasori cannot completely contend with.

I won't make this post long, but i'll jut down a few points.

  • A byakugan user's 360* degree field of vision is a perfect counter for 100 puppet army.
  • The chakra viewing abilities allow them a permanent view of sasori's chakra heart and his strings. We know that chakra strings move in a certain way to pull the puppet in a certain direction. An experienced byakugan user could exploit this to enhance predictions of sasori's attacks. Along with their 'binocular' and 'spherical' vision, they can use this to both predict sasori's puppet attacks, and see the potentia movement of his hearts into other puppets.
  • Byakugan users also possess clan specific abilities that revolve around manipulating their, and their opponents' chakra, thus, a seasoned byakugan user could use the abilities of vacuum palm, and 8 trigram: Rotation to counter the many abilities of sasori. Even his satetsu abilities are reduced to nothing in the face of an 8 Trigram: Rotation.

The thing is, byakugan users possess many abilities that are able to effectively counter all of sasori's abilities and cover all possible angles of attack. Because of this, and because it is required that sasori scratches his opponent to beat him, it becomes highly unlikely that a byakugan user would lose to him. But, the biggest issue I have is;

Would a byakugan user have the offensive power to stop sasori?

i agree;) :) :win::happy::neji::neji::neji:
 

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Personally, I dont see how Neji would be able to destroy Hiruko, so...
 

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Sasori wins.His puppets are made from wood, so...
 

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Personally, I dont see how Neji would be able to destroy Hiruko, so...

That's the exact same thing i was thinking. Because I see how he can defend against everything Sasori has, but I don't know what jutsu he has to get past hiruko. I'm wondering if one of the die-hard neji fans know of what he can do. Honestly, I'm not too much into neji and I know very little about him.

Sasori wins.His puppets are made from wood, so...
Wtf does that have to do with anything?
 

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Sasori is simply too much.

Hiashi would of made a better case, but even he loses.

Sasori is too versatile in the fact that he has too many option and is easily one of the smartest ninjas ever shown to date.
 

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The wood is Neji's weakness. But ofc this isn't my only point. Sasori's stamina is better, Neji can't destroy his puppets easily, and he also has poison. Neji isn't winning this.
 

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That's the exact same thing i was thinking. Because I see how he can defend against everything Sasori has, but I don't know what jutsu he has to get past hiruko

Nothing. Chiyo said it herself - she had to use Sakura as a pawn in order to destroy it, since nothing in her own arsenal could destroy that puppet (and she was talking about old Hiruko she knew, not the upgrated one with the shield on its back). In short: even her 10 puppets, with all those chakra blades and saws wouldnt be able to break it. Considering that, Neji, whos fighting style depends on precision, not on strenght, would be completely helpless against it.
 

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The wood is Neji's weakness. But ofc this isn't my only point. Sasori's stamina is better, Neji can't destroy his puppets easily, and he also has poison. Neji isn't winning this.

Why aren't you banned yet? And why do you comment on every hyuga thread related when you literally know nothing about any hyugas besides the fact you hate them??
 

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Nothing. Chiyo said it herself - she had to use Sakura as a pawn in order to destroy it, since nothing in her own arsenal could destroy that puppet (and she was talking about old Hiruko she knew, not the upgrated one with the shield on its back). In short: even her 10 puppets, with all those chakra blades and saws wouldnt be able to break it. Considering that, Neji, whos fighting style depends on precision, not on strenght, would be completely helpless against it.

Well the thing about the precision part is possible since he could pin point the weak spots via xray/byakugan and hit it where it would break (I.e. nails etc etc) in a similar fashion he did kankuro and his puppets.

But he would still lose either way
 

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"Hinata vs Sasori" debate kinda went in that thread and it is concluded that Sasori would win; however; Neji and Hinata are in different levels.

Neji can stand more than Hinata; but i can't see him defeating for several reasons.

Would a byakugan user have the offensive power to stop sasori?

^^This is the main issue; but i will get to that later.

It is true that vision advantage gives a byakugan user an edge; however; it is not set in stone that everything that had been seen would be countered. Air palms and kaitens have great usage aswell what kaiten but well, they are not spammable and techs like 100 puppets and iron sand would overwhelm him; not the mention poisons.

And durability; Neji does not have offenses strong enough to destroy Hiruko(if he manages to get that close); Neji's taijutsu does not rely on physical strength (unlike Gai, Sakura etc); it is about precision and damaging the opponent's chakra coil system and alive tissue (which puppets do not have) ; we can say he have some good counters; but those won't be enough to take down Sasori; for ex Lee's speed was a good counter to Gaara's sand defense; but it did not bring him victory.
 

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Well the thing about the precision part is possible since he could pin point the weak spots via xray/byakugan and hit it where it would break (I.e. nails etc etc) in a similar fashion he did kankuro and his puppets.

But he would still lose either way
Yeah, but we are talking about Hiruko here, which was the strongest defensive puppet ever made. Considering that Chiyo had to use Sakura and her insane strengh, I dont see Neji even scratching it, even if he hit most fragile spot.
 

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The wood is Neji's weakness. But ofc this isn't my only point. Sasori's stamina is better, Neji can't destroy his puppets easily, and he also has poison. Neji isn't winning this.

Are you still on your "wood hurr durr" crap?
I thought you would stop trolling and bickering over it yet you still do that.
 

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Why aren't you banned yet? And why do you comment on every hyuga thread related when you literally know nothing about any hyugas besides the fact you hate them??

Why aren't you banned yet? You insulted me, you insulted the new members =D

Are you still on your "wood hurr durr" crap?
I thought you would stop trolling and bickering over it yet you still do that.

This wasn't insulting, besides the wood can kill almost everyone =D
 
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This wasn't insulting, besides the wood can kill almost everyone =D

Well a kunai can kill anyone and every ninja has a kunai.
Yet you bring up "wood" crap constantly; it does not make sense and it is not even funny.
 

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Nothing. Chiyo said it herself - she had to use Sakura as a pawn in order to destroy it, since nothing in her own arsenal could destroy that puppet (and she was talking about old Hiruko she knew, not the upgrated one with the shield on its back). In short: even her 10 puppets, with all those chakra blades and saws wouldnt be able to break it. Considering that, Neji, whos fighting style depends on precision, not on strenght, would be completely helpless against it.

Yes, this is true, but would neji even need to break hiruko for that matter? Infact, wouldn't it be highly likely that sasori leaves hiruko of his own accord to simply be more versatile? The reason i'm saying this is because it might be possible for neji to hit sasori even through hiruko. Let's not forget that Gentle fist does internal damage and bypasses all armor, therefore it could be possible for neji to hit hiruko (in a spot to target sasori's heart) with the intention of channeling the chakra through the armor and right to sasori. Something like the following, but, again, I'm no hyuuga expert - There might be a better example in the manga. He channeled chakra through material and injured his opponent by just being in contact with it.
 

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Yes, this is true, but would neji even need to break hiruko for that matter? Infact, wouldn't it be highly likely that sasori leaves hiruko of his own accord to simply be more versatile?

As if, he would be able to infuse chakra through Hirukos armor? I dont think so. Remember Kidomaru? He was able to completely block Nejis 64 strikes with his golden armor.

And no, Sasori wouldnt leave Hiruko, unless it was absolutely necessary. Keep in mind, that Zetsu, who was Akatsuki spy never saw Sasoris true body, neither did Kabuto, who was spying on him.
 

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As if, he would be able to infuse chakra through Hirukos armor? I dont think so. Remember Kidomaru? He was able to completely block Nejis 64 strikes with his golden armor.

And no, Sasori wouldnt leave Hiruko, unless it was absolutely necessary. Keep in mind, that Zetsu, who was Akatsuki spy never saw Sasoris true body, neither did Kabuto, who was spying on him.

Yes, but let's not forget that kidomaru's armor was . Infact, It's probably the only counter to the gentle fist. A piece of wood doesn't have this ability to completely block the flow of chakra especially when...
We can not forget that neji has shown the ability to that aren't specially designed to hinder it's movement. And, he can create a , showing his ability to eextend his chakra beyond the length of his hand.
 

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Yes, but let's not forget that kidomaru's armor was . Infact, It's probably the only counter to the gentle fist. A piece of wood doesn't have this ability to completely block the flow of chakra especially when...
We can not forget that neji has shown the ability to that aren't specially designed to hinder it's movement. And, he can create a , showing his ability to eextend his chakra beyond the length of his hand.

Even if he managed to channel chakra to Hirukos armor, I dont think he would be able to hit what is inside.
 
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