Hashirama, Madara, or Obito

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i dont know whats up with all the retards in the thread saying madara and obito. the manga says that hashirama is the strongest so hashirama is #1.

The manga never said hashirama was the clear cut strongest it said things like no shinobi alive is more powerful than hashirama which was said by Kabuto, the only shinobi who can defeat which was said by edo Madara, while better things has been said for Nagato, and minato
 

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Madara clearly isn't stronger than hashirama but edo Madara is the reincarnation of the sage possessing eyes and body so yes edo Madara is stronger than hashirama
 

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The manga never said hashirama was the clear cut strongest it said things like no shinobi alive is more powerful than hashirama which was said by Kabuto, the only shinobi who can defeat which was said by edo Madara, while better things has been said for Nagato, and minato

Kabuto : " His might was so vast, people considered him a fairy tail like the SO6P"

only difference is Hashirama was actually there. Otherwise he would have the same status as SO6P.
 

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Kabuto : " His might was so vast, people considered him a fairy tail like the SO6P"

only difference is Hashirama was actually there. Otherwise he would have the same status as SO6P.

U have to use common sense bro...by people saying his might was so vast he was like a fairytale is simply because no one now lived during hashirama's time that's like saying Michael Jordan is the GOAT and that Kobe, or LeBron ain't in his league or could beat him the fact that hashirama has no clue of the rinnegan its him behind every user
 

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U have to use common sense bro...by people saying his might was so vast he was like a fairytale is simply because no one now lived during hashirama's time that's like saying Michael Jordan is the GOAT and that Kobe, or LeBron ain't in his league or could beat him the fact that hashirama has no clue of the rinnegan its him behind every user
But MJ was never considered the best by all..... Hell the whole country even the Uchiha clan respected Hashirama more then Madara.. He was feared more then Madara.....

And only 1 person has clue about the true power of Hashirama's mokuton that is Madara.... not even Obito does.. or Nagato.

I think your counting Edo Madara...... when I'm only counting them in their life time. Plus by feats Hashirama is the stronger one.
 

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My point is that hashirama ran his era well this is not his era think about this there was only 4 shinobi ever mentioned back then to have had some prowess which were hashirama, Madara, tobirama, izuna, I'm sure hashirama was like a fairytale to these shinobi now because he lived 100 yrs ago and he only had 3 people to compete with, while almost everyone is highly powerful now clearly way more than 4 people everyone now is powerful and the manga has said many shinobi are unbeatable, invincible, won't ever be surpass, hashirama isn't the only person to get praised by others and u guys knw that, the level of competition back then in hashirama's era was scarce he only had 3 people to compete with who he fought over and over and over so of course eventually u are going to knw them like the back of your hand and whoop their ass, hahsirama knws nothing about the rinnegan, he knws nothing about kamui, he hasn't seen a shinobi who hasn't been hit even, he hasn't faced a guy who is a dragon with virtually no weaknesses the only weakness is a genjutsu caused by physical contact which hashirama doesn't possess hashirama rule his era and he can match up with this era but he isn't number one in it
 

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But MJ was never considered the best by all..... Hell the whole country even the Uchiha clan respected Hashirama more then Madara.. He was feared more then Madara.....

And only 1 person has clue about the true power of Hashirama's mokuton that is Madara.... not even Obito does.. or Nagato.

I think your counting Edo Madara...... when I'm only counting them in their life time. Plus by feats Hashirama is the stronger one.

I'm not talking about edo Madara I'm not even saying Ems Madara is better because we all seen hashirama whoop his ass so u got it wrong I'm saying people like Nagato, Obito, minato, Kabuto can beat hashirama, first off Nagato canst all wood, he ct and pull it all to the black sphere including hashirama, hashirama would have to deal with 8 summons, including Nagato himself who can go airborne via his bird, Obito can kamui him to death the is no way for hashirama to counter kamui and it has only been counter by one shinobi who was faster and that is minato who has never been hit ever, and Kabuto only weakness is a mental genjutsu caused by physica contact via sharingan which hashirama doesn't possess so how can he beat those people??? Give me a battle situation and I will come up with a counter for everything
 

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And MJ wasn't considered the best by all but he is by most and the same goes for hashirama back then in his era, but now no way he is the best of course he can compete but he is not number one
 

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Its obviously Hashirama, then Madara, and finally Obito.
 

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I'm not talking about edo Madara I'm not even saying Ems Madara is better because we all seen hashirama whoop his ass so u got it wrong I'm saying people like Nagato, Obito, minato, Kabuto can beat hashirama, first off Nagato canst all wood, he ct and pull it all to the black sphere including hashirama, hashirama would have to deal with 8 summons, including Nagato himself who can go airborne via his bird, Obito can kamui him to death the is no way for hashirama to counter kamui and it has only been counter by one shinobi who was faster and that is minato who has never been hit ever, and Kabuto only weakness is a mental genjutsu caused by physica contact via sharingan which hashirama doesn't possess so how can he beat those people??? Give me a battle situation and I will come up with a counter for everything

MJ is called the best for a reason : six titles, five MVPs and 10 scoring titles,

In basketball what determines you as the best player is what oyu have achieved not your skills.. so totallly a different thing thee.


Obito with jinchuriki is a 7 vs 1 ... not a 1 vs 1.

Nagato has to use 6 paths... which are below SM Jiraiya


Kabuto doesn't have any power scale feats that rival the Shinsuusenju..... hence Hashirama is the strongest.

Kabuto already said that noone alive right now is in Hashirama's level.. that include him and obito .

Is Minato the one who restrained the Juubi? nope. So how is he stronger?
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but Obito has bit hit numerous times. Minato Sasuke Naruto Kakashi Konan danzo fodder ninja. His intangibility only last 5 mins and we all know Hashi and Madara can outlast 5 mins. anywho

1 Hashi
2 Madara
 

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Anybody saying Madara is delusional. Edo Madara is not Madara. His prime is VoTE which was promptly defeated by Hashirama. Edo Madara is modified WAY beyond his prime.

EMS+Rinnegan+Mokuton vs EMS? Clear difference. You can't consider Edo Madara.

Hashirama is number 1. It is debatable at number 2, with Obito and EMS Madara close, but I'd say Obito. Current Obito probably has more chakra than EMS Madara and can promptly dodge all of EMS Madara's attacks. Again it is debatable, but number 1 is not.
 

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Hashirama can take on Both Madara and Obito and take em down!
 

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Well , I think Hashi owns Madara , but Obito is tough too .

Can't decide though .

Kamui is the best jutsu , but Hiruzen is god of shinobi .

Anyway , I think Obito owns them both :whip:

Fixed..................
 

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My top 10:
1) Hashirama
2) Madara
3) Obito
4) Nagato
5) Naruto
6) Kabuto
7) Sasuke
8) Tobirama/Itachi/Minato
9) Muu/Nidaime Mizukage
10) Sandaime Raikage/Bee
 

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maddara during his fight all he needed was a bit more chakra.. so if he hadnt jacked it the day before he woulda won.
 

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Madara probablly now since he has Rinnegan.
 

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Hashi
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