[Discussion] Coyote Starrk and Ulquiorra Cifer vs. the Rest of the Espada

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They get taken down, but demolish like Grimmjow, Aereonario, And those other fodder Espada, Barragan, Halibel and Yammy will be the last 3.
 

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He was not jumped by 4 captains it was 2 at a time an they did not use bankai he lucky wonderweiss helped him..back to topic ulquiorra an stark are strong but I don't kno who I chose to win cuz barrgan won't be able to use his ability with the other espada around if they are fighting together.

To be fair, Shunsui was going to release his bankai until Ukitake intervened. Also, Love and Rose used their masks.
Up until Shunsui came back and intervened. Starrk wasn't even remotely injured by anything the Vizards did to him.​
 

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Team one takes this with high/extrm diff, only if starkk Is at full power

Their gonna have difficulty with barragan, tier hallibel and grimmjow jagerjaguez .....the rest of them get taken down pretty easy, since staark wasn't at full power with kyoraku, it's debatable
 

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I think the other espadas would be too much for starkk and ulquiorra :/ they are probably the strongest, but the number 2 espada would be hard for them. Also Grimmjow and Nnoitra
 

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Stark and Ulquiorra have no way of dealing with Barragan.
 

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Stark and Ulquiorra have no way of dealing with Barragan.

Than why would Aizen give Barragan the No. 2 spot if Stark ain't got shit on him?
 

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Than why would Aizen give Barragan the No. 2 spot if Stark ain't got shit on him?

Then provide how you think Stark would handle Barragan's Respira.
 

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Then provide how you think Stark would handle Barragan's Respira.

We have not seen the full extent of Stark's prowess. And I believe Stark can make wolves, swords and even use his metralleta out of cero oscuras. Also, if Stark's normal wolves are half as powerful as Soifons one-shot Bankai (which for a moment slowed down repsira), I think cero oscuras wolves are, at the very least, equal to it. What's more is that Stark has shown now effort when creating those wolves.

Meaning, Stark can stay at a great distance away from him, flood him with a couple hundred cero oscuras wolves, sonido there (Starrk is fast enough (in base-mode) to instantaneously transport himself halfway across Las Noches with a passenger in tow (Orihime). So just imagine how quick he can go in-and-out of the opening in his Resurrection) and destroy him with a cero oscuras blade.


Bear in mind this is due to speculation because we have not seen his full capabilities.
 

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We have not seen the full extent of Stark's prowess. And I believe Stark can make wolves, swords and even use his metralleta out of cero oscuras. Also, if Stark's normal wolves are half as powerful as Soifons one-shot Bankai (which for a moment slowed down repsira), I think cero oscuras wolves are, at the very least, equal to it. What's more is that Stark has shown now effort when creating those wolves.

Meaning, Stark can stay at a great distance away from him, flood him with a couple hundred cero oscuras wolves, sonido there (Starrk is fast enough (in base-mode) to instantaneously transport himself halfway across Las Noches with a passenger in tow (Orihime). So just imagine how quick he can go in-and-out of the opening in his Resurrection) and destroy him with a cero oscuras blade.


Bear in mind this is due to speculation because we have not seen his full capabilities.

Yes we have seen all of Starks power let it go he not beating barrgan the creator not gone let someone die without showing all the power they had ur just making up things you wish he could do...an his wolves are not as strong an soi fon bankai it would probably take like 15 wolves to equal her bankai power.an those wolves don't have no huge explosion so they will be aged easier than soi fon missile was.
 

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Yes we have seen all of Starks power let it go he not beating barrgan the creator not gone let someone die without showing all the power they had ur just making up things you wish he could do...an his wolves are not as strong an soi fon bankai it would probably take like 15 wolves to equal her bankai power.an those wolves don't have no huge explosion so they will be aged easier than soi fon missile was.


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Why would Barragan be 2nd and Stark 1st. LAWL, quite the moron you are ;)
 

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I think Ulquiorra takes all of them except for Barragan only because I'm not sure how he could deal with his special power.
 

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Why would Barragan be 2nd and Stark 1st. LAWL, quite the moron you are ;)

Lol as I thought no good comeback.
 

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Lol as I thought no good comeback.

His comeback is "If Barragan's power was so good, why wasn't he the number 1 Espada?" Clearly Kubo felt differently than you when he said the Espada were ranked by power. Seeing as this is all opinion the only thing we have to go on is that which Kubo said, that Stark is the strongest Espada.
 

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His comeback is "If Barragan's power was so good, why wasn't he the number 1 Espada?" Clearly Kubo felt differently than you when he said the Espada were ranked by power. Seeing as this is all opinion the only thing we have to go on is that which Kubo said, that Stark is the strongest Espada.

Stark is not the strongest yammy is yammy showed us that only his power could really kill him kyoraku an ukitake along with the other two captains that fought stark there shikai powers would have been useless against barrgan I'm talking no match for barrgan in there shikai state while stark struggling with kyoraku shikai..tell me how any of the people that fought stark would have beat barrgan?

What stark had over barrgan was probably stamina. An I also believe stark was also weaker than ulquiorra.
 
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Those who argue on Stark being No: 1 ... are either love to much their fav ( u call this Fanboyism right ?? :heh:) or plain stupid who cant accept the facts ...

He is the primera espada becoz hes the best among those ( except Yammy final release which is no : 0) ...

and for u who want to talk with a fanboy logic ... what did ur barragan do ?? not able to defeat Soi -Fon and his joker subordinate ... laughable :cool:

Stark fought 2 senior captain same time ... and again 2 captain level Visords same time ... That alone proves his quality ... *_*
 

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Stark is not the strongest yammy is yammy showed us that only his power could really kill him kyoraku an ukitake along with the other two captains that fought stark there shikai powers would have been useless against barrgan I'm talking no match for barrgan in there shikai state while stark struggling with kyoraku shikai..tell me how any of the people that fought stark would have beat barrgan?

What stark had over barrgan was probably stamina. An I also believe stark was also weaker than ulquiorra.

Barraggan never would have figured out Shunsui's games like Starkk did because baraggan took himself to serious. He was the king of Hueco Mundo he wouldn't stoop so low as to play childrens games(you can argue that all you want but his arrogance WOULD have got the better of him) Also Baraggan's power was never shown to affect shadows so Shunsui could avoid it in his shadow until he made a strategy.

But this is about Starkk, and Starkk was LAZY, to a fault. He is also half powered as Starkk and only whole powered when combined with Lilinette. As for you "believing" Starkk is weaker than Ulquiorra, doesn't matter, it will never be shown so it's just speculation. What WAS shown is Starkk being placed at the number 1 spot. As for Yami he was 10 whose number melted off don't act like he was above starkk, pre-release Starkk =1 Yami=10 after release Starkk =1 Yami=0.
 

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Barraggan never would have figured out Shunsui's games like Starkk did because baraggan took himself to serious. He was the king of Hueco Mundo he wouldn't stoop so low as to play childrens games(you can argue that all you want but his arrogance WOULD have got the better of him) Also Baraggan's power was never shown to affect shadows so Shunsui could avoid it in his shadow until he made a strategy.

But this is about Starkk, and Starkk was LAZY, to a fault. He is also half powered as Starkk and only whole powered when combined with Lilinette. As for you "believing" Starkk is weaker than Ulquiorra, doesn't matter, it will never be shown so it's just speculation. What WAS shown is Starkk being placed at the number 1 spot. As for Yami he was 10 whose number melted off don't act like he was above starkk, pre-release Starkk =1 Yami=10 after release Starkk =1 Yami=0.

That's the thing shunsui games don't matter to barrgan the moment something gets close to barrgan he will make it age an go away..an what shadows are in the air around barrgan? None his shikai abilities are useless against barrgan..

Ulquiorra was stringer as we all saw..and in the end yammy is stronger than stark so what you saying!
 

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That's the thing shunsui games don't matter to barrgan the moment something gets close to barrgan he will make it age an go away..an what shadows are in the air around barrgan? None his shikai abilities are useless against barrgan..

Ulquiorra was stringer as we all saw..and in the end yammy is stronger than stark so what you saying!

I'm saying Ulquiorra and Yammy being stronger is your opinion, you may have liked Ulquiorra's release better but you can't actually gauge a fictional power and since we never got to see them go head to head it's all speculation. Yammy and Ulquiorra got better enemies and everyone knows you look better fighting better opponents. Starkk was stated through the author to be the #1 Espada, if you don't agree with that decision take it up with Kubo.
 

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Umm I believe the lower the number the stronger ur supposed to be yammy was 0 an stark was 1 so yammy stronger right? an stark had good opponents just won't really a match for them if they wer to go all out.
 
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