Sm naruto takes 4th raikage high diff! (im turnt up) manga supported

[hixa kuogame]

ok you think its one sided? good for you. you can leave anytime you want. smh i gave counters for the raikage.. i even mentioned how he can still evade some of narutos attacks... why are you so stupid?

OK whatever I can clearly see your in butthurt denial and now you're trying to call me stupid

 

[Prince Charles]

OK whatever I can clearly see your in butthurt denial and now you're trying to call me stupid

still commenting.. sigh

 

[hixa kuogame]

dear god.. yet you still keep commenting? why not just leave? smh.. i was going over narutos tactical moves with his shadow clones and gave a logical scenario.. since when is that illegal? your making your self look like a dum ass.

OK you keep quoting me and trying to insult so of coarse I'm going to respond
But OK if you want to be oblivious then that's fine

 

[Prince Charles]

OK you keep quoting me and trying to insult so of coarse I'm going to respond
But OK if you want to be oblivious then that's fine

still commenting yet again.. sigh

 

[ballerjordan]

OK you gave Naruto logical strategies what about raikage
You did him no justice you
And if you gave him logical strategies like you said then you did simulate
And you simulated that fight completely one sided
Just so Naruto would win
It doesn't seem like a high diff fight if seems like Naruto crushed raikage
Giving scenerios is simulating
I haven't embarrassed myself so what are you talking about?

You haven't even taken SM Naruto's complete arsenal into consideration. As we saw, a SM clone took care of the raikage (did not use complete arsenal and was worn out), what does this tell you?

Raikage will engage Naruto in taijutsu first. Like always, he will get raped by Frog Katas. Frog Kata is far stronger than any normal tai jutsu, it wraps around the users body (like a chakra cloak, except natural energy), it gives the user increased strength in tai jutsu and a larger reach

Naruto has the speed to dodge and react to Raikage's punches all day thanks to hit last second reactions

Raikage's speed blitz is the only deal here, and Naruto has shown to be very tricky with Kage bunshins.

Naruto has better allies, he can summon Gamabunta, Gamaken, Gamahiro, Ma and Pa toads, these summons are far better than Sasuke's and Danzou's, and most other summons (They are actually smart, and very powerful). They are part of his arsenal, with them, Raikage is pretty much screwed now

Raikage isn't getting out of their sound genjutsu, fuuton rasen shuriken destroys his lightning armor

Naruto makes FRS very fast plus his SM sensing, reflexes and speed, he can easily dodge it Raikage's punches, he will immediately know that Ay is coming and instantly react

SM Naruto is also extremely durable. He Shattered Pain's chakra disruption blades, falling on a bed of spikes without injury, his arm not being messed up during his Rasenshuriken perfection training?

You seem to dislike Naruto and don't want to give him any feats. Naruto's defeat of Pain and Kyubi, you are completely underestimating a sage

Naruto is tricky with KB's, a speed blitz won't work on him.

SM Naruto > 3rd Raikage

SM Naruto > 4th Raikage

 

[Kαmi]

and sage mode naruto went against kurama who got hit with kuramas fist... and was not damaged.. or did you skip that part of my thread? unless your saying raikage has more strength then kurama?

No but I'm saying that Ay has a lot of speed and strength to consistently attack Naruto with his speed and strength. You keep assuming I'm missing parts of your thread so I'm not gonna waste my time arguing my point when you don't seem to respect my argument like I'm trying to respect yours. We'll just agree to disagree, deuces man.

 

[Prince Charles]

No but I'm saying that Ay has a lot of speed and strength to consistently attack Naruto with his speed and strength. You keep assuming I'm missing parts of your thread so I'm not gonna waste my time arguing my point when you don't seem to respect my argument like I'm trying to respect yours. We'll just agree to disagree, deuces man.

We'll just agree to disagree, deuces man.

accepting defeat already? how disgraceful of you.

 

[fahadkurama]

Very good thread

Agreed

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Great thread! Glad you used some of my scans.=D However, you should edit this into your thread. Naruto's SM speed> V1 speed, but V2>SM speed. However, the counter for V2 is the fact that Naruto would sense A charging up and prepare for him. Naruto wouldn't be able to dodge V2. That's out of the question, but due to sensing, he'd be able to prepare for him and block A's attack. I think that this is the main reason people are saying your thread is one sided.

Maybe you should use spoilers instead of links so people see the scans that you're talking about. People might not understand that the numbers you list are your proof. Just giving advice so fanboys won't tear you apart.

 

[Lucidus]

i completely agree... alot of people forget these facts about sm naruto.. they automatically think because KCM naruto was punched away by 4th raikage quite easily that SM mode would be easier... most think that the KCM mode is an upgrade to SM which isnt the case... the 2 modes grant different abilities and enhance the user in different ways ..

SM naruto is probally more to deal with than KCM naruto imo .. speed is good but if u have the reactions and even better if u can sence them coming then u can anticipate them...

Narutos endurance is the biggest threat to the raikage and as u have said waiting for the time limit to run out wont do the raikage much good since the speed naruto can enter sage mode has increased a lot and the amount of clones naruto can make will make things hard for the raikage... naruto's tricks wont be easy to deal with...

i fully agree with you

SM naruto is very much under rated ever since KCM was shown

 

[blackstar9]

You haven't even taken SM Naruto's complete arsenal into consideration. As we saw, a SM clone took care of the raikage (did not use complete arsenal and was worn out), what does this tell you?

Raikage will engage Naruto in taijutsu first. Like always, he will get raped by Frog Katas. Frog Kata is far stronger than any normal tai jutsu, it wraps around the users body (like a chakra cloak, except natural energy), it gives the user increased strength in tai jutsu and a larger reach

Naruto has the speed to dodge and react to Raikage's punches all day thanks to hit last second reactions

Raikage's speed blitz is the only deal here, and Naruto has shown to be very tricky with Kage bunshins.

Naruto has better allies, he can summon Gamabunta, Gamaken, Gamahiro, Ma and Pa toads, these summons are far better than Sasuke's and Danzou's, and most other summons (They are actually smart, and very powerful). They are part of his arsenal, with them, Raikage is pretty much screwed now

Raikage isn't getting out of their sound genjutsu, fuuton rasen shuriken destroys his lightning armor

Naruto makes FRS very fast plus his SM sensing, reflexes and speed, he can easily dodge it Raikage's punches, he will immediately know that Ay is coming and instantly react

SM Naruto is also extremely durable. He Shattered Pain's chakra disruption blades, falling on a bed of spikes without injury, his arm not being messed up during his Rasenshuriken perfection training?

You seem to dislike Naruto and don't want to give him any feats. Naruto's defeat of Pain and Kyubi, you are completely underestimating a sage

Naruto is tricky with KB's, a speed blitz won't work on him.

SM Naruto > 3rd Raikage

SM Naruto > 4th Raikage

no naruto never summoned ma or pa

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Good thread...


However, you didn't show any scan or proof that Naruto can evade Ei's V2 Shunsin.

Note that he can sense the chakra buildup and he has the ability to evade high-speed opponents, but that doesn't come close to prove that Sennin Modo Naruto can keep up with Ei's speed.

And one more note is that Rasengan and Chidori always cancel out, but the difference is Chidori is a piercing technique and Rasengan isn't. There is no guarantee that a Rasengan can break Ei's armor.

Ransengan is a concentrated explosion. It would start out in one spot and would penetrate because of that.

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Notice how there's a single, small hole? If anything. this scan shows that ransengan is more concentrated than chidori and can penetrate things better. It's not a grenade, it's a concentrated explosion on a single point that grows with distance.

Naruto's SM speed> V1 for sure, but not V2. Sensing allows him to prepare a block, or use massive ransengan's huge size to remove the speed advantage that A has.

 

[blackstar9]

Great thread! Glad you used some of my scans.=D However, you should edit this into your thread. Naruto's SM speed> V1 speed, but V2>SM speed. However, the counter for V2 is the fact that Naruto would sense A charging up and prepare for him. Naruto wouldn't be able to dodge V2. That's out of the question, but due to sensing, he'd be able to prepare for him and block A's attack. I think that this is the main reason people are saying your thread is one sided.

Maybe you should use spoilers instead of links so people see the scans that you're talking about. People might not understand that the numbers you list are your proof. Just giving advice so fanboys won't tear you apart.

sm speed over v1 ay speed ? and sensing something doesnt automatically mean you can stop it or dodge it

 

[Lucidus]

Ransengan is a concentrated explosion. It would start out in one spot and would penetrate because of that.

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Notice how there's a single, small hole? If anything. this scan shows that ransengan is more concentrated than chidori and can penetrate things better. It's not a grenade, it's a concentrated explosion on a single point that grows with distance.

Naruto's SM speed> V1 for sure, but not V2. Sensing allows him to prepare a block, or use massive ransengan's huge size to remove the speed advantage that A has.

ide have to disagree here... the chidori itself has better peircing power than the rasengan however the rasengan sends a shockwave through the body or the tank in this case

 

[Prince Charles]

sm speed over v1 ay speed ? and sensing something doesnt automatically mean you can stop it or dodge it

Actually you can when you have dramatically increased reflexes along with super danger sensing which sage mode provides.

 

[Lucidus]

Actually you can when you have dramatically increased reflexes along with super danger sensing which sage mode provides.

agree with this... sage mode with the ability to sence allowed you to anticipate what is going to happen.. thanks to this ability dodging the raikage becomes easier since naruto can already begin to dodge before raikage begins to attack.. if u know what i mean

 

[sagemode jinchuuriki]

This thread feels a bit one sided for Naruto.
I would like to see mention of Ei's skill a little more because your making a fight that would never happen in the naruto verse.
Over all I would say both fighters would bring the match to a draw

 

[Prince Charles]

This thread feels a bit one sided for Naruto.
I would like to see mention of Ei's skill a little more because your making a fight that would never happen in the naruto verse.
Over all I would say both fighters would bring the match to a draw

i didnt really talk about Ay because his arsenal and style is very basic.. its straight forward taijutsu and speed, i didnt know people really needed an elaboration on Ays abilities... and its not one sided i provided counters for sm naruto and i even say how Ay can still manage to dodge his attacks..

 

[Lucidus]

This thread feels a bit one sided for Naruto.
I would like to see mention of Ei's skill a little more because your making a fight that would never happen in the naruto verse.
Over all I would say both fighters would bring the match to a draw

we arnt limiting A we know full well of his skills and the danger of going up against him.. its just Naruto has what it takes to win... obviously it wont always be the same outcome but that isnt the case of this thread...

Of course with A's speed he can avoid Narutos attack such as rasenshuriken.. however for A to do any damage at all he has to get close... and naruto can sence this and take full advantage of it

 

[Prince Charles]

we arnt limiting A we know full well of his skills and the danger of going up against him.. its just Naruto has what it takes to win... obviously it wont always be the same outcome but that isnt the case of this thread...

Of course with A's speed he can avoid Narutos attack such as rasenshuriken.. however for A to do any damage at all he has to get close... and naruto can sence this and take full advantage of it

Exactly.. why wud i waste my time explaining Ays abilities when its pretty much straight forward... i didnt really provide counters for him because when you think about sm naruto simply counters his fighting style and abilities.