Technically, Sasuke is unbeatable if he use this strategy

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No , if amaterasu, travels, it would burn the chakra(armour) thingy around raikage and spawn on that chakra first.
It would also burn the microorganisms in its way.
From long range raikage would not be able to go out of sasuke's field of vision since it would be enlarged unlike in close range.

Ur bringing science into Naruto .-.
Not even gonna comment on tht

U claim if raikage was some distance away from
Sasuke (witch wouldn't happen seeing as raikage is a close range fighter as well as
Way faster then sasuke) sasuke would have more space in his vision to cast amatratsu

Ok

When sasuke attempted to cast amatratsu on Ay, Ay was right in front of him his whole vision was basically Ay and sasuke still missed...

Ur thinking as if everything in sasukes vision will get caught if he uses amatratsu witch isn't the case he has to pinpoint on target or
Object and cast it

Ur long range theory doesn't work at all in fact it just gives Ay more dodging room.....


If Ay is far away and sasuke pin points on in him all Ay has to do is dodge it like he did before nothing more nothing less

Amatratsu doesn't inflame everything in the casters vision the faster has to pin point on a target

And tht is where ur theory turns to shit...
 

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A saw the blood and had info on amaterasu and decided to move.
Another thing is that sasuke had some vision problems and he failed to convert amaterasu on the target.

Doesn't change the fact that he still moved out of the way. Sasuke was looking right at him and still failed to catch him with Amaterasu. Also A was close to him, as opposed to the situation that is proposed in this thread.
 

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A saw the blood and had info on amaterasu and decided to move.
Another thing is that sasuke had some vision problems and he failed to convert amaterasu on the target.

There is no proof that Ay had info on amatratsu Ay (dodge amatratsu) like gaara (dodge madara instant poisonous Forrest) has instantaneous reflexes meaning he can react at instantaneous speeds amatratsu has instantaneous hence why it's labeled as one of the fastests jutsu

Ur making things up saying Ay had info on sasukes jutsu or amatratsu for the matter
How would he know tht blood falling from the eye means amatratsu is about to happen when he hadnt fought sasuke prior or even itachi izuna shishui (cant spell the guy with KA itachi best friend) madara or obito (these r only uchia's who archived MS there for only uchia's who had access to amatratsu
The fact tht Ay dodged so fast showed he didn't know what was going to happen and just did it to b on safe side (later on fight now tht he knew what blood coming from sasukes eye meant he proceeded to pulverize sasuke... he didn't care if it was amatratsu he just wanted to manhandle sasuke...)
 
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Amaterasu spawns right on the target and doesn't travel. So it will take same time for it to spawn on a guy 10m away from him and 10km away from him.

not true or raikage would not have dodged it, how often must this be explained
 

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If Kishi would use everything in a completely logical way Madara, Obito and Minato would be unbeatable because one has Wood, EMS and Rinnegan, one has Rinnegan, Sharingan and a very powerful ST and the last one has an OP ST

If Madara used a combination of all (susanoo, shinra tensei, rinngan absorption etc)
Obito (ST and shinra tensei, absorption etc)
Minato (instant ST and fastest overall)

At best a battle with them should be a stalemate if they cant finish of their opponents because with a proper combo they couldnt be touched, logically noone could beat all that ...

Its whats wrong with the power levels, Kishi just kept piling up until it all became too much (especially Madara)
 

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There is no proof that Ay had info on amatratsu Ay (dodge amatratsu) like gaara (dodge madara instant poisonous Forrest) has instantaneous reflexes meaning he can react at instantaneous speeds amatratsu has instantaneous hence why it's labeled as one of the fastests jutsu
Ur making things up saying Ay had info on sasukes jutsu or amatratsu for the matter
How would he know tht blood falling from the eye means amatratsu is about to happen when he hadnt fought sasuke prior or even itachi izuna shishui (cant spell the guy with KA itachi best friend) madara or obito (these r only uchia's who archived MS there for only uchia's who had access to amatratsu
The fact tht Ay dodged so fast showed he didn't know what was going to happen and just did it to b on safe side (later on fight now tht he knew what blood coming from sasukes eye meant he proceeded to pulverize sasuke... he didn't care if it was amatratsu he just wanted to manhandle sasuke...)
Shee had an info on amaterasu, kumo nins were gathering all they could on sasuke. I see not why wouldnt A have info on that if shee had. Somehow A knew he had to go V2 in sight of MS huh.

This particular strategy would work 50/50 with MS sasuke.
MS sasuke had vision problems and along with the strain from amaterasu it wasnt so easy to focus exactly at the right spot.
This issue however is gone with EMS and the strategy will work 99 of the times.
 

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Sausage soloes because of enton. Enton people... That's all he needs.
 

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Also nagato can sense the pressure of amaterasu before it's released, he could easily counter that strategy with next to no effort.
 

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Sasuke can just use amaterasu on bijju dama as soon as naruto makes it. It will explode on the spot because of amaterasu.
IT is Very difficult for naruto to aim for a flying target, it is not as easy as juubi since juubi was stuck at one place and too huge to dodge.

Explode? Where the **** did you get that from?

Also, Amaterasu's flames materialize at the point the user FOCUSES on (very Narrow area) so I find it much, much harder for Sasuke to hit any skilled Ninja from a far distance. However Naruto's TBB is very large and can target a wider area. Frankly, Sasuke loses easily if he uses this strategy against many Ninja. For example, Naruto can make and disperse many clones that have 1 target when Sasuke has to pinpoint attack every one of the clones, all the while being attacked from all directions by FRS, TBB, etc...

Other Ninja I think this strategy fails with are Gaara, Tsuchikage, Kakashi, Hashirama, Minato, Itachi, Nagato, Obito (ofcourse), and Madara.
 
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Shee had an info on amaterasu, kumo nins were gathering all they could on sasuke. I see not why wouldnt A have info on that if shee had. Somehow A knew he had to go V2 in sight of MS huh.

This particular strategy would work 50/50 with MS sasuke.
MS sasuke had vision problems and along with the strain from amaterasu it wasnt so easy to focus exactly at the right spot.
This issue however is gone with EMS and the strategy will work 99 of the times.

Shee knew what amatratsu looked like he started describing its black flames thts how he knew it was amatratsu
Tht doesn't mean tht Ay knew what it was u said shee had info on sasukes amatratsu well how did he acquire tht ??? I mean each jutsu has descriptions on what it looks like but Ay dodged it as soon as it was cast ... He didn't c what it was he just dodged after it was cast and the black flames were seen then C started describing it stating it was amatratsu u have no proof tht neither Ay or C knows how amatratsu is cast (closing of one eye and blood coming out of other)
C knew what it looked like
But u can't prove he knew what it was during it was being casted only after
 

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Shee knew what amatratsu looked like he started describing its black flames thts how he knew it was amatratsu
Tht doesn't mean tht Ay knew what it was u said shee had info on sasukes amatratsu well how did he acquire tht ??? I mean each jutsu has descriptions on what it looks like but Ay dodged it as soon as it was cast ... He didn't c what it was he just dodged after it was cast and the black flames were seen then C started describing it stating it was amatratsu u have no proof tht neither Ay or C knows how amatratsu is cast (closing of one eye and blood coming out of other)
C knew what it looked like
But u can't prove he knew what it was during it was being casted only after

So he wouldnt?
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This is main reason why sasuke failed with A.

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So he wouldnt?
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This is main reason why sasuke failed with A.
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I stand corrected

About the info part u proved me wrong i wasn't aware tht they watched whole fight and informed Ay Rep
But it still doesn't change anything about Ay ring able to dodge amatratsu ...

Ems I get it he won't have blindness anymore or any pains so maybe just maybe there is a chance tht sasukes amatratsu may be faster now but for now we have no proof and we also have no proof tht it would b faster then Ay

And ur great debater


Please don't tell me u believe in the theory of amatratsu being faster long range then close lik tht other guy
 

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I stand corrected
About the info part u proved me wrong i wasn't aware tht they watched whole fight and informed Ay Rep
But it still doesn't change anything about Ay ring able to dodge amatratsu ...
Ems I get it he won't have blindness anymore or any pains so maybe just maybe there is a chance tht sasukes amatratsu may be faster now but for now we have no proof and we also have no proof tht it would b faster then Ay
And ur great debater
Please don't tell me u believe in the theory of amatratsu being faster long range then close lik tht other guy
Amaterasu is same speed to manifest at any range.
After manifestation it keeps flying and growing as well, as seen below.
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I dont know what is its projectile speed but A managed to dodge that...
 

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So he wouldnt?
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This is main reason why sasuke failed with A.

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If you look here you'll notice the lizard never made it back with any intel, sasuke caught it.

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Not to say I agree with the OP, but I think Sasuke should generally use the Hawk more. He has a decent long range arsenal including Amaterasu, Chidori Nagashi, Susano enton arrows, etc. He can basically be like a long range bomber like Deidara haha.
 

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If you look here you'll notice the lizard never made it back with any intel, sasuke caught it.

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Failed try.
There were 2 guys. This one went to know whereabouts of bee -.-
 

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Ur bringing science into Naruto .-.
Not even gonna comment on tht

U claim if raikage was some distance away from
Sasuke (witch wouldn't happen seeing as raikage is a close range fighter as well as
Way faster then sasuke) sasuke would have more space in his vision to cast amatratsu

Ok

When sasuke attempted to cast amatratsu on Ay, Ay was right in front of him his whole vision was basically Ay and sasuke still missed...

Ur thinking as if everything in sasukes vision will get caught if he uses amatratsu witch isn't the case he has to pinpoint on target or
Object and cast it

Ur long range theory doesn't work at all in fact it just gives Ay more dodging room.....


If Ay is far away and sasuke pin points on in him all Ay has to do is dodge it like he did before nothing more nothing less

Amatratsu doesn't inflame everything in the casters vision the faster has to pin point on a target

And tht is where ur theory turns to shit...
AS i said before, MS sasuke takes too long to "activate" amaterasu because of the drawbacks he has to face and he was also inexperienced with it.

Basically, this manga page will clear your doubts.
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Sasuke create an amaterasu wall , instantly.
It took him like one sec to do it. Sasuke can also move and increase the area , like this.
Also in a matter of seconds, itachi burnt down a whole forest. Thats what happens when you use amaterasu from long range, the area will also increase . Its not like sasuke is just gonna use it at one place and not spread it.

Sasuke has enton also with which he can manipulate it easily.
Raikage escape sasuke's vision (just barely) and was able to dodge the flame.




Doesn't change the fact that he still moved out of the way. Sasuke was looking right at him and still failed to catch him with Amaterasu. Also A was close to him, as opposed to the situation that is proposed in this thread.
read the comment above.

There is no proof that Ay had info on amatratsu Ay (dodge amatratsu) like gaara (dodge madara instant poisonous Forrest) has instantaneous reflexes meaning he can react at instantaneous speeds amatratsu has instantaneous hence why it's labeled as one of the fastests jutsu

Ur making things up saying Ay had info on sasukes jutsu or amatratsu for the matter
How would he know tht blood falling from the eye means amatratsu is about to happen when he hadnt fought sasuke prior or even itachi izuna shishui (cant spell the guy with KA itachi best friend) madara or obito (these r only uchia's who archived MS there for only uchia's who had access to amatratsu
The fact tht Ay dodged so fast showed he didn't know what was going to happen and just did it to b on safe side (later on fight now tht he knew what blood coming from sasukes eye meant he proceeded to pulverize sasuke... he didn't care if it was amatratsu he just wanted to manhandle sasuke...)

what alpha is saying is correct. Ay did have information on amaterasu.

Even that random fodder knew about amaterasu Lol
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How do you know it was one second? The panels don't show time.

If anything, the page that shows Itachi chasing Sasuke from a long range with Amaterasu only proves my point.
 
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