pateuvasiliu
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He hits the air so fast it creates a huge tiger. Go measure how fast you have to hit the air to create a giant tiger, I'll be waiting for results.
You're also implying you have to be as fast as Ay to avoid Amaterasu.
Gai v Itachi
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You're also implying you have to be as fast as Ay to avoid Amaterasu.
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Uchihareborn207
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1- he has the speed of lightning.
2 gai has supersonic speed but it doesnt even come near lightning speed.
3.raikage had to go full speed to dodge amateratsu and hebarely did it.
4 so there is no way gai is dodging that.
5 7ht gates gai cant do shit to susanoo ribcage.
6.if susanoo comes to play than it's over.
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He doesn't have the speed of lightning, it would be impossible to react to it.
Hirudora would crush it like a hammer crushes a tin can.
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Hirudora would crush it like a hammer crushes a tin can.[/QUOTE]
7Th gates Gai is not stronger than tsunade and raikage(with Onoki's aid) together.so there is no way the Hirudura would break it.
7Th gates Gai is not stronger than tsunade and raikage(with Onoki's aid) together.so there is no way the Hirudura would break it.
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you saw the punch that sakura gave in the chapter 632 (explosion),now multiply that for 10 times.
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Well I guess that's why the whole damn mountain had exploded huh? :|
Itachi saw Sasuke was about to use a jutsu. Sasuke practically told Itachi what it was and showed him before striking because normally a ninja would not be able to survive that nor evade it because of its immense speed. Not like Sasuke has never instantly created susanoo before against, lets say, the raikage who can move faster than Sasuke can even see with the sharingan who attacked him at close range.
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That's exactly why the mirror couldn't have been used against it. Every attack that came in contact with the mirror was repelled.
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Had it hit the mirror, the Mountain wouldn't have blown up, nor would Itachi's Susanoo be destroyed and he wouldn't have ended up on the ground, the only Susanoo without the mirror are V1 and V2, meaning it was V2 that blocked Kirin as V1 is too weak.
First of all thats Sasuke, second of all he simply created a level 1 Susanoo instantly against the Raikage, bears no relevance here as I am talking about Itachi's V2 (Incomplete). We saw how long it takes for his Lvl 3 and up to come out.
Even if Itachi got an explanation of the jutsu, it doesn't change the fact that his reactions were good enough to let him activate Susanoo before it hit him.
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Itachi wins with mid diff.
This fight will start in base, meaning base gai.
Itachi can more than keep up and in fact gain the upper hand against base gai's speed and taijutsu because he also has high tier taijutsu feats and hype. Accompanied with the sharingan and his speed, base gai's taijutsu/speed isn't troubling base itachi.
While itachi everything in base form to counter base gai with pure taijutsu/speed.
When genjutsu comes into play, by that i mean seal based genjutsu. Gai's counter for doujutsu based genjutsu goes out of the window
This fight can end with both being in base in itachi's favour, or end with gai losing in base before he uses hachimon.
The gates are troublesome, however for those without a defense.
Itachi has the defense that can withstand the power the gates has to offer.
Gai isn't taking itachi to high diff, let alone winning
This fight will start in base, meaning base gai.
Itachi can more than keep up and in fact gain the upper hand against base gai's speed and taijutsu because he also has high tier taijutsu feats and hype. Accompanied with the sharingan and his speed, base gai's taijutsu/speed isn't troubling base itachi.
While itachi everything in base form to counter base gai with pure taijutsu/speed.
When genjutsu comes into play, by that i mean seal based genjutsu. Gai's counter for doujutsu based genjutsu goes out of the window
This fight can end with both being in base in itachi's favour, or end with gai losing in base before he uses hachimon.
The gates are troublesome, however for those without a defense.
Itachi has the defense that can withstand the power the gates has to offer.
Gai isn't taking itachi to high diff, let alone winning
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Could go both ways, but i'd favor Itachi in this one. Gai knows how to fight Sharingan without looking at Sharingan users eye. He is also a skilled genjutsu-breaker(he recognised and instantly broke Kabuto's high level of genjutsu -temple of nirvana- in part1). S
o he should be a perfect counter for Itachi's genjutsus. He already knows how much of a threat Itachi can be(he defeated his rival after all), so there is no way that Gai won't enter the battle without using gates from the get-go. With gates he would easily overpower Itachi.
Clones won't be a great deal since they would be destroyed as easily as he destroyed Kisame's gigantic sharks technique. Itachi would then have no other choice than using Susanoo to defend himself since Amaterasu has a prep time condition that could leave him greatly open during the battle.
It now comes down on whether Gai could break Itachi's Susanoo or not. With his afternoon tiger he was able to completely erase Madara's Susanoo from existence and left him out for an entire chapter, but Itachi has yata mirror, so normally it should be capable to handle it despite the fact its main purpose is to counter ninjutsu. After afternoon tiger, Gai would be severely weakened(he was still able to fight for an extended period of time after using it against Kisame though), but on the other side, MS techniques also takes a huge tole on Itachi's body. So i would say that it would depends on who tires first.
I favor Itachi because of his superiority in trump cards
o he should be a perfect counter for Itachi's genjutsus. He already knows how much of a threat Itachi can be(he defeated his rival after all), so there is no way that Gai won't enter the battle without using gates from the get-go. With gates he would easily overpower Itachi.
Clones won't be a great deal since they would be destroyed as easily as he destroyed Kisame's gigantic sharks technique. Itachi would then have no other choice than using Susanoo to defend himself since Amaterasu has a prep time condition that could leave him greatly open during the battle.
It now comes down on whether Gai could break Itachi's Susanoo or not. With his afternoon tiger he was able to completely erase Madara's Susanoo from existence and left him out for an entire chapter, but Itachi has yata mirror, so normally it should be capable to handle it despite the fact its main purpose is to counter ninjutsu. After afternoon tiger, Gai would be severely weakened(he was still able to fight for an extended period of time after using it against Kisame though), but on the other side, MS techniques also takes a huge tole on Itachi's body. So i would say that it would depends on who tires first.
I favor Itachi because of his superiority in trump cards
You do realise ninja can fight without looking at their opponents, right? Especially in Gai's case who is so an expert in CQC that he can notice and counter attacks
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. Amaterasu has even a pressure that any notable ninja should notice. A Itachi standing still to concentrate to use said jutsu will also
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. With Gai high speed movements, Itachi shouldn't be using itUrm, that was just his prediction skills.. Itachi pulled off a similar feat by hitting 2 of naruto's clones that were in his blindspot..If you think that means Gai can see behind his back, Idk what to say...All the ninjas that have noticed Amaterasu were sensor ninja who could pick up on such things, something guy is not... Gai stares at the opponents FEAT, and looks at their FEET movement, to predict what they're going to do... If Itachi stands sitll and uses an amaterasu at his head, he can't dodge, He doesn't know about amaterasu, He DOESN'T know about the presigns, he doesn't know anything about the technique nor how it operates.. and lol? Killer Bee was WARNED, that Itachi was using ability, and striked... Does Gai know of amaterasu or its presigns?
Raikage was able to dodge amaterasu BECAUSE he saw it coming, BECAUSE he was making eye contact with Sasuke... his speed and reflexes then aided him in escaping Sharingan's eyesight...
Not that It all matters anyway..... A jutsu as simple as Finger genjutsu or Dusck crow, FOLLOWED UP by amaterasu ends this fight with no doubt whatsoever
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Yes, But guy isn't a sensor. Itachi, contrary to popular belief, is simply too fast.
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he moved an inch, and then roast guy with a
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Sure, guy may notice and avoid some of this, but guy will be evidently over whelmed. The fact that itachi performs all these fire jutsu by holding his
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will all lead to guy's defeat. Even when guy enters gates, Crow and shadow clone feints would allow itachi to effortlessly substitute himself
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. ITachi will be sitting in a bush while guy wastes hirudora. Or, in the very slim chance guy get's the upper hand over him -- through his incredibly speed, hand seal speed, sharingan precognition, Itachi simply resorts to Yata mirror and it's checkmate.
And, this isn't taking into account Seal-based Genjutsu which would trap guy. Guy never showing any remote genjutsu abilities, thus making it unlikely that he'd break it easily.
People like to rush to MS, but the fact is, Itachi is easily top 10 without even resorting to his MS.
Those attributes like the bleeding eye and soaring air pressure is happened once and never again. Then, Amaterasu is always instant with only a blink of Itachi. The air pressure however is only felt by sensors and is overestimated, too. Those attributes are done for plots excitements to stretch the action. After all Itachi also showed instant first usage of his Amaterasu, bridging this stretch of time. [
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] It's like a user of Susanoo can activate its final form instantly but goes through stages slowly sometimes. Either way if Gai avoids eye contact, he falls for Amaterasu for 100 percent. Sakura already stated it's hard to avoid eye contact in an actual battle since it is a matter of habit. How can you fight a high skilled and fast opponent with versatile abilities by just looking at his feet? For someone like Itachi who works with feints and has great analytical skills it wouldn't be a problem to catch his opponent off guard and force him to look into his eyes. He can even equip his crows with the Sharingan to cast an illusion on them and this is happened easily if a swarm of them will attack him, as crows are perfect to distract someone. [
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