Enton Might As Well Be The Same As Amaterasu

[Henrik]

Are you not following what I'm saying?

Flames appeared on Sasuke's sword.

Sasuke wasn't even looking at his sword.

Hence, we can gather they formed directly on the sword WITHOUT Amaterasu, since Amaterasu requires you to look at the target.

He used Enton, which does not require Amaterasu

I give up. Believe whatever you want.

/i'm out

 

[Booker]

I don't know how to explain this any simpler. Amaterasu is one power. Enton is another used to take Amaterasu one step higher. Yes, whenever Sasuke uses Enton, he uses Ama first. He uses them in conjunction with each other.

And I did reply to your Hidan scan.

How can that be possible, when flames appeared on Sasuke's sword without eye contact? Amaterasu clearly wasn't used, otherwise it would have appeared where Sasuke was looking.

And no, you did not. I just checked.

I give up. Believe whatever you want.

/i'm out

Ah, the classic "I have no argument, so I'll just say I'm right and leave" tactic. Priceless.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Are you not following what I'm saying?

Flames appeared on Sasuke's sword.

Sasuke wasn't even looking at his sword.

Hence, we can gather they formed directly on the sword WITHOUT Amaterasu, since Amaterasu requires you to look at the target.

He used Enton, which does not require Amaterasu

Then how are they the same thing?

 

[Punk Hazard]

How can that be possible, when flames appeared on Sasuke's sword without eye contact? Amaterasu clearly wasn't used, otherwise it would have appeared where Sasuke was looking.

And no, you did not. I just checked.

When did Sasuke use Amaterasu on his sword?

And yeah, I didn't see the second Hidan scan you posted.

 

[Booker]

Then how are they the same thing?

When did Sasuke use Amaterasu on his sword?

And yeah, I didn't see the second Hidan scan you posted.

Apologies, it wasn't on his sword. I misremembered. But regardless, the arc that swing took is far out of Sasuke's vision.

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What I'm suggesting is that the flames are the same, whether they be Enton or Amaterasu. It's just how they manifest that's different.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Apologies, it wasn't on his sword. I misremembered. But regardless, the arc that swing took is far out of Sasuke's vision.

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What I'm suggesting is that the flames are the same, whether they be Enton or Amaterasu. It's just how they manifest that's different.

That's what the hell we were saying the whole time.

And you're misunderstanding how he made that arc. He created some flames in front of him(Amaterasu), then stretched it into that arc(Enton). Get it now?

 

[Booker]

That's what the hell we were saying the whole time.

And you're misunderstanding how he made that arc. He created some flames in front of him(Amaterasu), then stretched it into that arc(Enton). Get it now?

Wait, what?

so now Amaterasu can just be focused on nothing right in front of your face?

Did Sasuke use Amaterasu to make his Enton Orb in Susano'o?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding Amaterasu. From what I gather, it's instantaneous and appears on whatever you're looking at, like Kamui Snipe.

 

[HadouKage]

Eh? Enton means Blaze release and it's a kekkei genkai as I stated. Amaterasu is the eye techique Sasuke and Itachi can do because of their Mangekyo.

Enton is a special kekkei genkai only Sasuke can do, and it let him produce black flames.

I know what you stated, and Im saying that Enton is nothing but the manipulation of the black flames (amateratsu). That means if Enton is a KKG, Tsukuyomi and Madara's MS ability must be a KKG

 

[KidGamer65]

Amaterasu is the flame manifesting on whatever Sasuke is looking at.

Enton is pretty much everything else that has to do with the flame.

Sasuke doesn't have to use Amaterasu first to use Enton Kagutsuchi, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to do these things.

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So, the two jutsu use the same exact flames. But Enton Kagtsuchi lets him manipulate the flames in whatever way he wants so its a different tech, same flame.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Sorry, but you're wrong.

So everytime Sasuke uses Enton he used Amaterasu right before? That makes no sense. Sasuke wasn't even looking at his sword when he used enton to cover it in flames.



Same as above.

Also, you never came back to my Hidan thread after I provided you with scans. Hm.

Enoton is just the manipulation of Amaterasu flames. There are technically no "enton flames" the flames made for ALL of Sasuke's Enton jutsu are Amaterasu which IS a KATON. so to answer your question(which will require me to disagree with you) Enton can only be used WITH amaterasu and Enton IS a KKG and ONLY sasuke can use it.

 

[HadouKage]

Enoton is just the manipulation of Amaterasu flames. There are technically no "enton flames" the flames made for ALL of Sasuke's Enton jutsu are Amaterasu which IS a KATON. so to answer your question(which will require me to disagree with you) Enton can only be used WITH amaterasu and Enton IS a KKG and ONLY sasuke can use it.

How is Enton a KKG?

 

[Oksus]

Because it gives the user ability to manipulate black flames. Sasuke is the only known user thus it is a KKG

 

[AzR]

its the same thing but enton is the shape manipulation of the black flame amaterasu ..

i'm curious.. why in the translation stated Enton:Blaze Release whereas at another translation stated as Katon?

 

[Strawberry]

yea its like fire release and fireball jutsu

 

[Casualty]

There not the same.

Enton is the ability to manipulate the flames whereas

Amaterasu is the ability to produce the black flames

thus without the ability to produce the flames Enton (ability to manipulate to flame) would just be a useless ability.

 

[BlackBison]

Sasuke needs both eyes in order to use his enton release. The first thing he does is use amaterasu but, before the flames fully manifest he uses his other eye to manipulate the shape. He does all this in quick succession.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I think they are the same but enton shaped spikes swords etc, logically should be stronger due to being somewhat stabilized.

 

[Retsu]

ppl made a stink about enton and amaterasu being different when ppl claimed gaara's sand was fast enough to block amaterasu making him ultra superior to sasuke, some random uchihard claimed that enton wasn't as fast as amaterasu, and ppl have believed it ever since, to save face on the fact that gaara's sand tanked those flames as if it was childs play.

 

[AlphaScythian]

ppl made a stink about enton and amaterasu being different when ppl claimed gaara's sand was fast enough to block amaterasu making him ultra superior to sasuke, some random uchihard claimed that enton wasn't as fast as amaterasu, and ppl have believed it ever since, to save face on the fact that gaara's sand tanked those flames as if it was childs play.

Clearly enton projectiles are slower then amaterasu.

 

[KidGamer65]

ppl made a stink about enton and amaterasu being different when ppl claimed gaara's sand was fast enough to block amaterasu making him ultra superior to sasuke, some random uchihard claimed that enton wasn't as fast as amaterasu, and ppl have believed it ever since, to save face on the fact that gaara's sand tanked those flames as if it was childs play.

Usually something that APPEARS and SPAWNS on a target is going to be faster than something that TRAVELS.

Who ever claimed that was one of the ones who actually decided to use their brain and read the manga.