Madara now too Op for Hashirama?

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So i was wondering, the last time Hashirama fought Madara, he defeated Madara. But people have made a lot of arguments stating that Madara wouldn't lose to Hashirama now that he has gotten his power ups. Which left me thinking if i am the only one who thinks that Madara's power ups are kind of Useless against Hashirama?

1) Madara now has wood release, but so does Hashirama and i don't think he would lose to Madara at that
2) Madara has the Rinnegan, but then again that's kind of pointless since he can't absorb wood.


So uhm what are your thoughts?, i personally hope Madara beats Hashirama if they fight again, but i don't see that happening. I am not a big fan of either
 

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1) It is not useless, Wood Dragon against Wood Dragon, Wood Bunshins and stuff..
2) Rinnegan is OP. Wtf ? Of course it can absorb chakra from Wood and then it becomes useless (Unalive) and Hashi can't control it. Also Human Path, Deva Path, Asura Path Summoning path..

3) Madara tops Hashirama.
 

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Rinnegan Madara > Hashirama.
 

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Current madara should be able to tear hashirama a new one, the rinnegan can also absorb souls or some shit like that so madara doesn't need a sealing jutsu. Let's just hope that hashirama doesn't get an asspull ability but knowing kishi it can happen
 

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madaras mokuton is tiers upon tiers weaker than hashiramas sage art mokuton therefore its useless.

he has shown nothing with the rinnegan that allows him to stand up to a full power hashirama.

madara already stated what a fight between him and hashirama will consist of. it will be shinsuusenju vs perfect susano and madara already said that hashirama is superior.
 

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Current madara should be able to tear hashirama a new one, the rinnegan can also absorb souls or some shit like that so madara doesn't need a sealing jutsu. Let's just hope that hashirama doesn't get an asspull ability but knowing kishi it can happen

U guys forget the fact that Hashirama fought Madara with NINE TAILS. If they get rid of the Juubi, there is an good fight. No one is OP in this situation. Hashi was much stronger, but now there as good as equal.
 

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1) It is not useless, Wood Dragon against Wood Dragon, Wood Bunshins and stuff..
2) Rinnegan is OP. Wtf ? Of course it can absorb chakra from Wood and then it becomes useless (Unalive) and Hashi can't control it. Also Human Path, Deva Path, Asura Path Summoning path..

3) Madara tops Hashirama.

I didn't say Rinnegan is OP, i said it's a power up..lol

But wood is blood line technique, mixture of Water and Earth, how can you absorb that?
 

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yes madara wins. the people who say otherwise are nothing but fanboys, for example ''TheSages456'' and ''KidGamer65'', they rely on madara's words. hashirama who used up all of his chakra, and looked so beat up and had burn scars and his clothes were torned off, faced ems madara. so if he faced madara who now has rinnegan, wood, ems, how is he supposed to win.
 

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madaras mokuton is tiers upon tiers weaker than hashiramas sage art mokuton therefore its useless.

he has shown nothing with the rinnegan that allows him to stand up to a full power hashirama.

madara already stated what a fight between him and hashirama will consist of. it will be shinsuusenju vs perfect susano and madara already said that hashirama is superior.

my sentiments exactly
 

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Madara is the strongest character in the series.(not including Sage of 6 Paths).
 

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I didn't say Rinnegan is OP, i said it's a power up..lol

But wood is blood line technique, mixture of Water and Earth, how can you absorb that?

Because it is still Ninjutsu made with Chakra ? Preta Path > Chakra.

I know you didn't. Can't you see the dot after "OP"? I said WTF to that sentence you said about how Madara cannot absorb Wood.


Hashirama barely won, just barely 1 hit away against EMS Madara. Now it's Rinnegan Madara, isn't it obvious ?
 

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madaras mokuton is tiers upon tiers weaker than hashiramas sage art mokuton therefore its useless.

he has shown nothing with the rinnegan that allows him to stand up to a full power hashirama.

madara already stated what a fight between him and hashirama will consist of. it will be shinsuusenju vs perfect susano and madara already said that hashirama is superior.


still madara can use one of hashirama's best mokuton techs, even if he doesnt have sage mode.



madara can use all of the rinnegan powers just like he has stated it. since he has unlimited chakra, he should spam it like an OP.

shinsuusenju vs PS, mokuton susanoo with rinnegan and ems, meteors. madara wins
 

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yes madara wins. the people who say otherwise are nothing but fanboys, for example ''TheSages456'' and ''KidGamer65'', they rely on madara's words. hashirama who used up all of his chakra, and looked so beat up and had burn scars and his clothes were torned off, faced ems madara. so if he faced madara who now has rinnegan, wood, ems, how is he supposed to win.

I personally feel like we still don't know what Madara can do, he wasn't even trying hard against the Hokages, and apart from his ''Sharingan'' abilities and Hashirama's wood, he hasn't shown what he can do..

So except he has something else up his sleeves, i don't see how he can beat Hashirama, because i feel the Rinnegan is useless against Hashirama
 

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I like how so many people forget about madara's rinnegan, if he doesn' use it against hashirama then that is BS.
 

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I personally feel like we still don't know what Madara can do, he wasn't even trying hard against the Hokages, and apart from his ''Sharingan'' abilities and Hashirama's wood, he hasn't shown what he can do..

So except he has something else up his sleeves, i don't see how he can beat Hashirama, because i feel the Rinnegan is useless against Hashirama


so far what madara has shown and things we know can do will put him above hashirama.

you need to stop your fanboysim. rinnegan shits on hashirama. it's a perfect counter for hashirama techs.
 

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Current Madara > Current Hashirama.

Hopefully; since the battle needs some challenge in the good guys' side.
 

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so far what madara has shown and things we know can do will put him above hashirama.

you need to stop your fanboysim. rinnegan shits on hashirama. it's a perfect counter for hashirama techs.

ehrmm, hw is it the perfect counter for Hashirama's techs?, pls explain... How does it stop for example ''Shinsuusenju''?

I'm not a fanboy, like i said if this Manga is to be any fun, i hope Madara beats Hashirama
 

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EMS,Rinnegan,Mokuton Madara > Hashirama.
 
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