[Discussion] Luffy's eternal enemy ?

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First off, Koby has appeared twice. He was there in the marineford arc. He actually stood up against Aikanu to make him stop the killing. Then Shanks saved him from death, remember?

And later we saw, that he became able to use Haki.

That said, I still see Smoker as the eternal enemy from the marines. He has been hunting Luffy ever since day one. Koby is behind Luffy, he will most likely never catch up to him in strength, so I am not really sure about his role, but I could see him ending up as a very powerful marine one day, although Aikanu does not give much about him :(
 

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Coby's purpose is to turn the WG into a better government and take Akainu's place probably
For Smoker he is about as strong as Luffy so it's not unlikely that he becomes a new Garp.
But I wouldn't say there needs to be a new Garp/Roger relationship.. It's good that there are
both Smoker and Coby because that means more variation and this is no Naruto
 

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Coby's purpose is to turn the WG into a better government and take Akainu's place probably
For Smoker he is about as strong as Luffy so it's not unlikely that he becomes a new Garp.
But I wouldn't say there needs to be a new Garp/Roger relationship.. It's good that there are
both Smoker and Coby because that means more variation and this is no Naruto

He can't do that since he's a marine not a WG agent. He can't do a thing. Luffy, already declared war on the WG and the one who finds one piece is the one who rules the world. WB knew all about this which he told, Sengoku about what would happen when someone finds it. It seems like those with the will of D. Constantly rise to try and overthrow them. He said Rogers will had been passed on and it's obvious who it passed onto. Luffy, will take them down because that is his will.

Smoker, is definitely not near, Luffy's level Since, Law even beat him. Luffy, is obviously above, Law in strength greatly.
If anything they will end up assisting, Luffy in the war that he declared on the WG. Akainu, who killed, Luffy's brother in the war will be at the center of the marines and Luffy will most likely take him down.
 

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He can't do that since he's a marine not a WG agent. He can't do a thing. Luffy, already declared war on the WG and the one who finds one piece is the one who rules the world. WB knew all about this which he told, Sengoku about what would happen when someone finds it. It seems like those with the will of D. Constantly rise to try and overthrow them. He said Rogers will had been passed on and it's obvious who it passed onto. Luffy, will take them down because that is his will.

Smoker, is definitely not near, Luffy's level Since, Law even beat him. Luffy, is obviously above, Law in strength greatly.
If anything they will end up assisting, Luffy in the war that he declared on the WG. Akainu, who killed, Luffy's brother in the war will be at the center of the marines and Luffy will most likely take him down.
One name: Shanks. He heavily foreshadowed it. And the fleet admiral has alot of influence. He's second only to Kong and the gorosei (Who will probably be overthrown by the end). It hasn't shown yet
but Akainu as the fleet commander is gonna come with a price for the world. He will use any means necessary to get rid of pirates. He won't hesitate to cause great collateral damage and civillian damage just
to get any pirate he has his sight on. Coby would never use buster calls for example.

Smoker is very near Luffy's level.. Him losing to Law doesn't mean anything. Law is very good and very close to Luffy himself. These three are all very close and Smoker could grow faster than
Law from now if Oda wants it.
 

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One name: Shanks. He heavily foreshadowed it. And the fleet admiral has alot of influence. He's second only to Kong and the gorosei (Who will probably be overthrown by the end). It hasn't shown yet
but Akainu as the fleet commander is gonna come with a price for the world. He will use any means necessary to get rid of pirates. He won't hesitate to cause great collateral damage and civillian damage just
to get any pirate he has his sight on. Coby would never use buster calls for example.

Smoker is very near Luffy's level.. Him losing to Law doesn't mean anything. Law is very good and very close to Luffy himself. These three are all very close and Smoker could grow faster than
Law from now if Oda wants it.

Law, struggled in his fight against, Smoke who, Doflamingo defeated instantly. Luffy, always takes down the boss of each arc and that boss is, Doflamingo. Law, struggled against his underling, Vergo as well but got lucky because, Vergo thought that, Law couldn't cut him. Luffy, will defeat, Doflamingo and because of that strength he's far stronger than, Law.
 

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Vice-Admiral Smoker-san U_U

Reason : Because he has been on Luffy's tail ever since Loguetown. He's nearly even took him out.

Plus, the fact that he is an Vice-admiral after timeskip to me its seems that this role belongs to "Smoker" because his progress has increased as well as Luffy's along the storyline.
 

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Vice-Admiral Smoker-san U_U

Reason : Because he has been on Luffy's tail ever since Loguetown. He's nearly even took him out.

Plus, the fact that he is an Vice-admiral after timeskip to me its seems that this role belongs to "Smoker" because his progress has increased as well as Luffy's along the storyline.

Exactly. It's kind of annoying sometimes how some people màke threads like these to figure things out that are completely obvious.
 

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I never made this thread to make clear things for myself but for others because i know its Smoker.

I see. I understand. Anyways, this thread isn't making any progress.
These people are too dense. This is why school teaches us complicated math, just so that smallest chance someone smart comes from that benefit but look how many people here are so dumb. It's obvious that its, Smoker yet some think its, Coby :p
 

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Coby was fodder to Luffy end of part 1. Coby likely became a lot stronger over the timeskip(and probably grew a little more stronger overall than Luffy) and Luffy also became a lot stronger over the time skip. Basically, Coby probably still fodder to Luffy because Coby was fodder to Luffy at end of part 1 and their growth rate over the time skip is more or less the same.
 

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their growth rate over the time skip is more or less the same.
Huh? Coby's gorwth rate Pre TS has shown to be the greatest so far. So Oda would need to pull some Hiro shit for Coby's growth rate to decrease tremendously.
 

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Roger had two rivals though, Whitebeard and Garp. Smoker will be the Garp while Coby becomes the Whitebeard(in this case Fleet Admiral, lead the marines).
 

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Roger had two rivals though, Whitebeard and Garp. Smoker will be the Garp while Coby becomes the Whitebeard(in this case Fleet Admiral, lead the marines).

Makes quite enough sense to me. Lets slap a "legit" label on that.
 
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