EMS Madara>Obito

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

all of these are normal moves any Uchiha can do it like Sasuke's own genjutsu or Obito genjutsu which is even stronger than itachi genjutsu when Obito used his genjutsu against konan

all of these u can't call it a moves it's a common moves fire jutsu almost every character can do it

i will agree only on Izanami which is a plot jutsu ( see i was logical and agree on something u mentioned unlike u )

not to mention Izanami cost an Eye and doesn't work on most ninjas like minato or naruto or madara or Sasuke etc

I've never seen any other Uchiha using suiton or finger genjutsu Itachi's genjutsu is way more useful... for example Sasuke's genjutsu is totally useless against multiple opponents because they can just help each other out of it while Itachi can totally rape you in a second... when your friends break the genjutsu it will be too late if you face Itachi...... that's why Sasuke couldn't do crap against Kabuto... Itachi did the 97% of the job...

 

[Trollasaur]

I got an infraction for posting the Sauske pic. :/

 

[AlphaScythian]

Edo Tensei, Kabuto's jutsu keeps them alive, when Edo Tensei was released, they disappeared.
I guess you missed the part where Kabuto lied.

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The seals he told Obito were different from the actual seals.

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Doesn't matter if he was in control of them. He can't summon them nor can he keep them active without a 3rd party doing it for him.

Yes, yes he lied about how to undo it, but did he lie about how to make them?
Clearly obito knows how to summon them and can achive control via rods and genjutsu.
Kabuto does not keep them alive, stop saying that, he simply doesnt cancel them.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yes, yes he lied about how to undo it, but did he lie about how to make them?
Clearly obito knows how to summon them and can achive control via rods and genjutsu.
Kabuto does not keep them alive, stop saying that, he simply doesnt cancel them.

Obito would still need to go get the bodies and summon them. That's prep and prep isn't allowed unless stated otherwise.

Yes he does. if something happens to his Edo Tensei jutsu they vanish, just like they did in the manga. Having Kabuto let the Jins live means he is keeping them alive, meaning that counts as a team effort by Obito (Who has the Bijuu) and Kabuto (Who has the bodies)

 

[Shura]

I disagree. U_U

 

[AlphaScythian]

Obito would still need to go get the bodies and summon them. That's prep and prep isn't allowed unless stated otherwise.

Most likely obito did provide the bodies since he killed them -.-. Madara had to go tame kyuubi too, not prep time?

Yes he does. if something happens to his Edo Tensei jutsu they vanish, just like they did in the manga. Having Kabuto let the Jins live means he is keeping them alive, meaning that counts as a team effort by Obito (Who has the Bijuu) and Kabuto (Who has the bodies)

Nothing happens to edos except sealed/released or emotional drama BS which isnt happening under rods and genjutsu.

 

[Dark Artist]

I've never seen any other Uchiha using suiton or finger genjutsu Itachi's genjutsu is way more useful... for example Sasuke's genjutsu is totally useless against multiple opponents because they can just help each other out of it while Itachi can totally rape you in a second... when your friends break the genjutsu it will be too late if you face Itachi...... that's why Sasuke couldn't do crap against Kabuto... Itachi did the 97% of the job...

did you Forget that Sasuke with only 3 tomo sharingan broke the strongest genjutsu move itachi has Tsykuimi ?

Sasuke is way better than him ..

 

[KidGamer65]

Most likely obito did provide the bodies since he killed them -.-. Madara had to go tame kyuubi too, not prep time?
Nothing happens to edos except sealed/released or emotional drama BS which isnt happening under rods and genjutsu.

Madara already did it in the manga. Obito didn't.

Who is the one who summoned Obito's Edo Jins?
-Kabuto.
Who's jutsu is keeping them alive?
-Kabuto's

Edo Jins are a result of Obito and Kabuto's teaming up, neither can use them by themselves.

 

[Enton]

obito has the bodies of the jincs. he led akatsuki and they had the dead bodies.

kabuto showed obito how to do the technique. he can use it.

obito has zetsu sacrifices. he casually planted 5 on sasuke. obito can use ET and the jincs are his power.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Madara already did it in the manga. Obito didn't.
Who is the one who summoned Obito's Edo Jins?
-Kabuto.
Who's jutsu is keeping them alive?
-Kabuto's
Edo Jins are a result of Obito and Kabuto's teaming up, neither can use them by themselves.

Stop saying kabuto keeps them alive. Since we go by w/e has been done in manga then edo's are obitos.
Edos and kurama both have external creators.
Only difference is kabuto was alive and could end them so6p was not. Since kabuto didnt do that its mute point. He offered them to obito and thus its obito's.

 

[KidGamer65]

obito has the bodies of the jincs. he led akatsuki and they had the dead bodies.

kabuto showed obito how to do the technique. he can use it.

obito has zetsu sacrifices. he casually planted 5 on sasuke. obito can use ET and the jincs are his power.

Prep. Prep. Prep. and Prep. If Obito didn't do it in the manga, him doing it in this thread is PREP.

Not to mention a dead body cant be a Jinchuuriki anyway so it doesn't matter if he had the bodies.

Stop saying kabuto keeps them alive. Since we go by w/e has been done in manga then edo's are obitos.
Edos and kurama both have external creators.
Only difference is kabuto was alive and could end them so6p was not. Since kabuto didnt do that its mute point. He offered them to obito and thus its obito's.

No, the only difference is the Sage doesn't have a jutsu active that is keeping Kurama on the field. Kabuto does and its called Edo Tensei, deny it all you want, it won't change the facts.

 

[Enton]

Prep. Prep. Prep. and Prep. If Obito didn't do it in the manga, him doing it in this thread is PREP.

Not to mention a dead body cant be a Jinchuuriki anyway so it doesn't matter if he had the bodies.

madara getting kyubi is prep. kabuto using ET is prep. orochimaru using ET is prep. sasuke getting itachi's eyes is prep. you are just biased.

the dead body provides the dna. the zetsu which he has are the sacrifices.

 

[AlphaScythian]

No, the only difference is the Sage doesn't have a jutsu active that is keeping Kurama on the field. Kabuto does and its called Edo Tensei, deny it all you want, it won't change the facts.

There is no jutsu that keeps them active ffs. There is only one that can end them. Edos being active is not up to kabuto, if he dies they keep being active.
Ur purposely twisting words here cuz im right

madara getting kyubi is prep. kabuto using ET is prep. orochimaru using ET is prep. sasuke getting itachi's eyes is prep. you are just biased.

the dead body provides the dna. the zetsu which he has are the sacrifices.

Well said. He's playing stupid cuz he knows his argument was beaten.

 

[KidGamer65]

madara getting kyubi is prep. kabuto using ET is prep. orochimaru using ET is prep. sasuke getting itachi's eyes is prep. you are just biased.

the dead body provides the dna. the zetsu which he has are the sacrifices.

Madara already got Kyuubi in the manga, Obito didn't get his Jins by himself, in the manga.

Kabuto collected the bodies and did the ritual for ET in the manga and can summon them wherever he wants...IN THE MANGA.

Sasuke got Itachi's eyes. IN THE DAMN MANGA.

Where did Obito get his Jins by himself in the manga? Oh wait, nowhere, meaning him doing it for this thread is prep.

@bold: And did he do any of this in the manga? No he didn't, so him doing it now counts as prep. If you don't like it...too damn bad.

There is no jutsu that keeps them active ffs. There is only one that can end them. Edos being active is not up to kabuto, if he dies they keep being active.
Ur purposely twisting words here cuz im right

Manga disagrees. Its called Edo Tensei, once its dispelled, they disappear.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Manga disagrees. Its called Edo Tensei, once its dispelled, they disappear.

doesn't matter
unless he's facing Kabuto the opponent can't do crap against them

 

[KidGamer65]

doesn't matter
unless he's facing Kabuto the opponent can't do crap against them

Nope. The fact that Kabuto's jutsu is keeping them alive, shows that they are a result of Kabuto helping Obito. If Kabuto isn't on Obito's side, then he doesn't get the Jins. Simple as that.

 

[Enton]

Madara already got Kyuubi in the manga, Obito didn't get his Jins by himself, in the manga.

Kabuto collected the bodies and did the ritual for ET in the manga and can summon them wherever he wants...IN THE MANGA.

Sasuke got Itachi's eyes. IN THE DAMN MANGA.

Where did Obito get his Jins by himself in the manga? Oh wait, nowhere, meaning him doing it for this thread is prep.

@bold: And did he do any of this in the manga? No he didn't, so him doing it now counts as prep. If you don't like it...too damn bad.

guess that means hashirama cant use flower tree world then. or mokuton sashiki for that matter. cause he didn't do it in the manga, like you say.

obvious that obito has the jincs. you're being incredibly biased.

he planted zetsu spores on sasuke and kabuto and they can come out of the host like we saw in the manga.

 

[KidGamer65]

guess that means hashirama cant use flower tree world then. or mokuton sashiki for that matter. cause he didn't do it in the manga, like you say.

Clapping your hands and using a jutsu doesn't count as prep you fool. If this is how your arguments are going to start to sound like then you should just quit now.

obvious that obito has the jincs. you're being incredibly biased.

You done whining about me being "biased" yet?

he planted zetsu spores on sasuke and kabuto and they can come out of the host like we saw in the manga.

Scans of him summoning doing the ritual for his Edo Jins, by himself? If you don't have them, him doing it in any thread counts as PREP. Get it through your thick skull.

 

[Enton]

lmao why are you insulting? seems I won then.

 

[KidGamer65]

lmao why are you insulting? seems I won then.

-Didn't counter argument.

-Says he won.

Lmfao, get out of here.

Obito doesn't have Edo Jins unless Kabuto is his teammate. End of story.