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Yeah but how do you know the Rasenshuriken didn't make the flames stronger?

Because why would it do that? That's total speculation.

Air makes fire GROW.

That's like saying, how do you know Sakura isn't the SO6P?
 

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Not stronger. Bigger.

If you understand fire and air (oxygen) at all, it just makes fire bigger.




Yes.

All Rasenshuriken did was make it bigger, which helped of course. But the Enton itself did the damage.
Makng fire bigger is Obviously makng it stronger...........
 

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Because why would it do that? That's total speculation.

Air makes fire GROW.

That's like saying, how do you know Sakura isn't the SO6P?

So you're not speculating? Did the manga say it didn't make it stronger and enable it to work on the Juubi?

Also that was a terrible analogy.
 

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Ur logic is some how acceptable .....but Sasuke's attack alone isn't enough to have that much Impact even if Sasuke can control amatarasu ,still there is a limit ,,,and i dnt think that attack wil be enough to took down the Juubi (current form)...Uchiha's can't solo Juubi since it won't give them a chance,attacking Juubi while defending wil dfntly had no effect on juubi......
 

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So you're not speculating? Did the manga say it didn't make it stronger and enable it to work on the Juubi?

Also that was a terrible analogy.

I have manga proof on my side. You have nothing.

FACT: Only Enton was left when it hit the Juubi. Rasenshuriken was ate up, and non-existant. Enton took over the shape of FRS.

SPECULATION: FRS magically somehow made Enton stronger through nonexistant means, even though there is no possible way FRS could have made Black Fire "Stronger".

How would FRS made Enton stronger, and made it "work" on the Juubi? What does it provide besides giving Enton size? Lol
 

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Because why would it do that? That's total speculation.

Air makes fire GROW.

That's like saying, how do you know Sakura isn't the SO6P?
How can u say that ......?
Wat is the diff b/w the stronge fire and Big Fire.......?
Does fire exist without air........?
 

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I have manga proof on my side. You have nothing.

FACT: Only Enton was left when it hit the Juubi. Rasenshuriken was ate up, and non-existant. Enton took over the shape of FRS.

SPECULATION: FRS magically somehow made Enton stronger through nonexistant means, even though there is no possible way FRS could have made Black Fire "Stronger".

How would FRS made Enton stronger, and made it "work" on the Juubi? What does it provide besides giving Enton size? Lol

Yeah Enton ate up Rasenshuriken, but where's your proof that it didn't make it stronger?
 

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Yeah Enton ate up Rasenshuriken, but where's your proof that it didn't make it stronger?

Because it couldn't have provided anything to Black Fire that burns extremely hot except for an increase in size.

Unless you can come up with HOW frs made it stronger?

I can easily say that there are purple talking meatballs somewhere in the Universe. You can't disprove me, so I'm right. <-------- your logic.
 

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I have manga proof on my side. You have nothing.

FACT: Only Enton was left when it hit the Juubi. Rasenshuriken was ate up, and non-existant. Enton took over the shape of FRS.

SPECULATION: FRS magically somehow made Enton stronger through nonexistant means, even though there is no possible way FRS could have made Black Fire "Stronger".

How would FRS made Enton stronger, and made it "work" on the Juubi? What does it provide besides giving Enton size? Lol

Without Naruto's wind ,Sasuke's Enton would be very smaller and it won't have that much impact on Juubi and Juubi wil releace a clone from it's body (at the point of attack) to counter Amatarasu ,,,,
 

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Because it couldn't have provided anything to Black Fire that burns extremely hot except for an increase in size.

Unless you can come up with HOW frs made it stronger?

I can easily say that there are purple talking meatballs somewhere in the Universe. You can't disprove me, so I'm right. <-------- your logic.


There are, according to the Multi-Universe theory.

And it could have, we've seen wind make fire stronger before in the manga. What do you think Madara's fan is for?
 

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Well if juubi survives ama. Its surely wont be tanking it.
 

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Because it couldn't have provided anything to Black Fire that burns extremely hot except for an increase in size.

Unless you can come up with HOW frs made it stronger?

I can easily say that there are purple talking meatballs somewhere in the Universe. You can't disprove me, so I'm right. <-------- your logic.
Wat proof do u have to say that a smaller fire wil provide equal heat compared to Bigger one.......?
 

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lets just agree that MS jutsus are OP and can take anyone to the a whole level with no real efforts to create it or learn it(one of many reasons i don't really like eye power-ups),even kakashi was going to end the juubi with kamui.
 

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There are, according to the Multi-Universe theory.

And it could have, we've seen wind make fire stronger before in the manga. What do you think Madara's fan is for?

Multi-Verse theory is nonexistant. It's a theory, and it's based on nothing. It's a psuedoscience at best. These "scientists" that study for it have provided zero evidence for it's existence. It's all fantasy.

As for wind making fire stronger, Madara's fan made the fire BIGGER and SHAPED it. Strength wise, it was still just fire.

Same for Enton. It was bigger and changed shape, but it was still just Enton.
 

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There are, according to the Multi-Universe theory.
And it could have, we've seen wind make fire stronger before in the manga. What do you think Madara's fan is for?

Fire is fire. The temperature of burning gasoline is always same is it 1 liter or tons of it.
Whoever has a clue of physics knows that. wind only helped it spread faster
 

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Wat proof do u have to say that a smaller fire wil provide equal heat compared to Bigger one.......?

Did you even read my thread?

The arrow would have hit, and it would have taken longer, but it would have spread and have had the same effect.
 

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Multi-Verse theory is nonexistant. It's a theory, and it's based on nothing. It's a psuedoscience at best. These "scientists" that study for it have provided zero evidence for it's existence. It's all fantasy.

As for wind making fire stronger, Madara's fan made the fire BIGGER and SHAPED it. Strength wise, it was still just fire.

Same for Enton. It was bigger and changed shape, but it was still just Enton.

Enton made stronger by Rasenshuriken.

And you're saying a smaller katon has the same strength as a larger one?

Fire is fire. The temperature of burning gasoline is always same is it 1 liter or tons of it.
Whoever has a clue of physics knows that. wind only helped it spread faster

This is a manga we're talking about.
 

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Explanation, proof, scans? Anything?

Rasenshuriken only made it bigger, it didn't make it "work".

it made it more powerful and did you forget the juubi was pinned down, im pretty sure if the juubi was free he wouldve dodged it or done something
 

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Enton made stronger by Rasenshuriken.

And you're saying a smaller katon has the same strength as a larger one?



This is a manga we're talking about.

Too bad you've provided nothing that suggests Rasenshuriken made Enton more powerful.
 
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