[Theory] Izanami and Izanagi 50/50 counter for KA

TheTailedSage

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Ok so looked into KA a bit more just to confirm my knowledge and t appears that its a fact that your unaware that you get put in ka... But its also unclear if the sibling genjutsu Izanami and izanagi can counter it so im gong to do a little analysis of it


Izanami countering KA

Now since they both have similar affect in terms of altering realty. KA alters the mind to make it THINK that your dong something when your not... but... Izanami put the enemy in a endless loop which also alters your mind so logically speaking, reality is contradicting itself by these two genjutsus being in place inside each others mind. The difference with Izanami is that it puts the foe in an endless loop so technically they think they are winning when they actually aren't; of course in order for izanami to work anyway they foe has to be pretending to be someone hes/shes not. So in practicality izanami cancels out KA but this may depend on some conditions

.Caster must do it within a couple minutes of KA being activated ( of course this is almost impossible unless you have knowledge on the KA user)

. Or Use izanami to maintain the foes arrogance while you make the KA caster think hes caught you(this can be done if the foe is purposely getting hit of if they get hit to easily, in which case you would need a high IQ level to analyses the situation. Again you will have to have knowledge on the enemy having KA in the first place)

Although something still don't make sense. I mean even if you cast Izanami and you THINK you've caught them in a loop. KA is basically making you think you casted izanami when you actually didn't. So its hard to say. The reason why i think izanami is a counter s because it plays with the foes consciousness...But its is said that Izanami determines "fate". This is why its a 50/50 counter.


Izanagi countering KA
Izanagi makes you basically escape death and bend reality and illusions. because when activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree this allows the user to control their own state of existence, but it is normally only active for the briefest of moments.

Now i think you can see how this will counter KA in a logical term. If it controls reality within a certain radius then you should be able to use that to escape KA even if its just briefly (5 minutes). So even though through most of this logic KA reigns superior to Izanagi in a sense. I would say this is less effective than Izanami since the concept doesn't allow you to control or alter the foes mind BUT you should be able to see the foe long enough for you to know whats what (Like Izanami, you MUST have knowledge)


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Nice work, man !

So....where was that "Danzo one shots NV" guy ?
 

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Since one takes 10 years to charge and the other two cause you to lose a Sharingan. Little pointless.
 

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if you were shisui you would be the most hax character, because you cant counter ka or izanagi/izanami. he has four jutsu that control reality in some way. and we cant really be sure if he had tsukuyomi or not. either way i think shisui would be a scary ass dude
 

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nice job man I like this explanation xd how long did this take?
 

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I like it it made me :happy:

glad it didn't kfuffle your brain xD

Since one takes 10 years to charge and the other two cause you to lose a Sharingan. Little pointless.

But hey, its still a possible counter and loosing an eyes for your life is a pretty small price to pay
Nice work, man !

So....where was that "Danzo one shots NV" guy ?

you going to get dudes like that but you gotta look deeper in and thanks man
 

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nice job man I like this explanation xd how long did this take?

A white since ad to think about it, sometimes confused myself xD

if you were shisui you would be the most hax character, because you cant counter ka or izanagi/izanami. he has four jutsu that control reality in some way. and we cant really be sure if he had tsukuyomi or not. either way i think shisui would be a scary ass dude

bet your ass he would >:O
 
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