[Theory] Tobirama's Death?!

[allteam7]

ahhhhhhh I see my mistake just thought kinkaku= the brothers personal squad or something like that :S cuz the other brother is kinkaku, but then the question why did he not use his edo-tensei to reanimate some backup and even the odds ?

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

ahhhhhhh I see my mistake just thought kinkaku= the brothers personal squad or something like that :S cuz the other brother is kinkaku, but then the question why did he not use his edo-tensei to reanimate some backup and even the odds ?

Well, as much as we want to know, I highly doubt that we will get any answers. :'(

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

going up against gold and silver brothers plus 18 other elite nins alone ? makes sense that he lost even tho he was hokage the brothers had the sages weapons for example ... and if he could use edo -tensei why not reanimate some nins to even the numbers and fight back that way, perhaps he did not do that cuz it was Madara ?

the brothers werent there. the squad was loyal to the cloud

 

[bahram]

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Why did Tobirama said "This time I'll defeat you"

In his every battle with Madara , He and his brother were the winners. He was never defeated by Madara.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

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Why did Tobirama said "This time I'll defeat you"

In his every battle with Madara , He and his brother were the winners. He was never defeated by Madara.

Tobirama never did defeated him alone. :yeah:

 

[bahram]

Tobirama never did defeated him alone. :yeah:

He still has his brother with him and there is two extra Hokage with them. I don't think he means "this time I will defeat Madara alone."

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

He still has his brother with him and there is two extra Hokage with them. I don't think he means "this time I will defeat Madara alone."

Well, with the all "I will", kinda sums it up. . . :yeah:

 

[iRefleX]

I had this on my mind for a long time and it was kinda blurry, but today I cleaned it up a little bit. (There Were Some Similar Threads)

We know how Tobirama died. By allowing his comrades to escape, he sacrifices him self fighting against the Kinkaku Force.

Or that's what we think it happened, cuz it was never shown, but only stated.

I think that Madara killed Tobirama - now let me explain.

Let us see what happened there:

Tobirama is a sensor, so he detected the enemies presence.

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Twenty muster bounty hunters, or were they. Tobirama could have lied about it.

Why? Cuz it might have been Madara. He knows that he should be dead, so he is kinda shocked because of it.

Untill Hiruzen, Danzo and the other are arguing, Tobirama doesn't say anything.

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Why? He is thinking what should he do, cuz this is not an ordinary Ninja. Plus, he had a kinda personal feud with him.

Than he decides that he will take him alone.

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Why alone? Cuz in with him was also Kagami, a member of the Uchiha.

Why does that matter? Cuz, at the time, the Uchiha Clan started realising that what Madara said was coming to be truth. The Uchiha were moved to the outskirts of the village, spied on by the ANBU and so on. If they would come to know that Madara was still alive, they would surely want to re-join with him and organise a coup d'etat against the Leaf.

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Tobirama didn't wanted that. So he decided to take him alone. If he wins, the situation will be cleared.

But what if he loses? That's why he makes Hiruzen a Hokage, so the Uchihas wont use the chance for one of them to become a Hokage or for an uprising, cuz there won't be a Hokage to take care of things.

So, what do you guys think? hmm

He lost against Kinkaku and Ginkaku and 18 other fodders. The same ginkaku and kinkaku who lost against darui. Tobirama is whack lol.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

He lost against Kinkaku and Ginkaku and 18 other fodders. The same ginkaku and kinkaku who lost against darui. Tobirama is whack lol.

Wrong!

The Kin & Gin brothers were not there. There were only the twenty master bounty hunters.

PS: Did you had to quote the whole thread. . . ? hmm

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

He lost against Kinkaku and Ginkaku and 18 other fodders. The

kin and gin
and the
20 fodders
were two entirely separate fights. the 20 fodders were cloud shinobi, not rogues.

The same ginkaku and kinkaku who lost against darui.

ginkaku was sealed by sheer luck,and darui shat his pants vs 6 tailed kinkkau and needed team 10 and HQ's help to stop him

 

[zachius]

Well nice theory but remember Ginkaku and Kinkaku were in possession of the treasured tools of the sage of the six paths hence we should stop saying Tobirama was killed by a mere twenty cloud jounins.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

gin and kin were not part of the 20 jounins in the forest. tobirama had to venture a guess it was kinkaku unit based on tracking. if it were the brothers he would be like "thats kyuubi chakra...fack..." after using his sensing. i mean he instantly could tell karin was uzumaki by sensing her chakra for two seconds and your telling me he has to do vague guesswork for kyuubi chakra?

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

and in their battle they didnt use the tools. why? because tobirama is dead, not sealed.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

Well nice theory but remember Ginkaku and Kinkaku were in possession of the treasured tools of the sage of the six paths hence we should stop saying Tobirama was killed by a mere twenty cloud jounins.

OK, I have said this many times, the Kin & Gin brother were not part of the Kinkaku Force, they didn't kill Tobirama. It was just twenty master bounty hunters.

gin and kin were not part of the 20 jounins in the forest. tobirama had to venture a guess it was kinkaku unit based on tracking. if it were the brothers he would be like "thats kyuubi chakra...fack..." after using his sensing. i mean he instantly could tell karin was uzumaki by sensing her chakra for two seconds and your telling me he has to do vague guesswork for kyuubi chakra?

Thanks for supporting me in this. :yeah:

 

[Water dragon jutsu]

Good theory but Madara was to weak after the battle with Hashirama so i don't think he would be able to defeat Tobirama

 

[flobayz]

I'll still stick wif the 20 ninja hunter theory. Dnt forget Kinkaku and Ginkaku might have been among them

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

Good theory but Madara was to weak after the battle with Hashirama so i don't think he would be able to defeat Tobirama

Yeah, I know that. . . hmm

I'll still stick wif the 20 ninja hunter theory. Dnt forget Kinkaku and Ginkaku might have been among them

The twenty bounty hunters it's not a theory, it's what really happened. Plus, the Kin & Gin brothers were not among those twenty Ninja. :yeah:

 

[JumboJet]

But since Madara defeated him why didn't he go further and make an appearance in the leaf to know his clan members he's still alive?

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

But since Madara defeated him why didn't he go further and make an appearance in the leaf to know his clan members he's still alive?

Well, he was already weakened from his fight with Hashirama, so that kinda gives Tobirama some chance of winning. . . meaning he gave him some tough time and add to that weakened state of his. . . meaning he couldn't do much after it and attached him self to the Gedo Mazo. . . hmm

In the end it's just a theory, I didn't go that deep into it. . . it will starts to look like I'm trying to write Naruto myself. :yeah:

 

[scorezor]

I did not know Tobirama made Hiruzen hokage. I thought it was an elected position just as we saw in this weeks manga. In fact if he wanted to continue to push the Uchiha out he would have made Danzo hokage as his views were more inline with Tobirama and Hiruzen was more inline with Hashi.

However it is an interesting theory that it was Madara that is possible and might explain somethings. That could also be an epic way to give us a glimpse of Tobirama in battle which we haven't seen but could possibly see in this flahsback arc after Hashi is done telling his story.

no , he made hiruzen the next hokage because he was brave enough to go out there and do what the hokage wanted him to do.