Hard Truths People Don't Want To Accept In Naruto

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Itachi isn't a sadist -_- If anyone is a sadist it's Hidan, and haha I like the impossible to hit Minato part...because it's true :D Peace!
 

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I agree with this 100%. Never thought I'd agree with a itachi fan. There's a first time for everything I guess.
 
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- Itachi Is A Crazed Murderer-

Regardless of his intentions, Itachi is a sadistic murderer.

He had good intentions, but that doesn't change a thing. Fact of the matter is that Itachi murdered his entire family in cold blood with no explanation. Women, children, everybody.

I don't care if you think he had good intentions, because he did; however, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Itachi is a sadistic murderer.

- Danzo Is Near Unbeatable In A 1v1 Fight

There are few hard counters to KA. While KA is shrouded in mystery, we do know that it is the most powerful genjutsu, as it places your opponent in a genjutsu where you control them, without them even knowing it. (in theory)

Those that do have counters (I've heard cases for Sasori, Kakuzu), are beaten by Danzo regardless because of his formidable seals, wind style, wood style, and Izanagi.

- Izanami Does Next To Nothing -

Oh yeah, Itachi fans. Izanami is next to useless.

It can't be used in an actual fight, because it only effects people who don't accept their selves or their situation. It's not just "lol Izanami soloes GG"

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Even Itachi agrees.

- Minato Is Impossible To Hit

Minato's FTG is just about the best defensive technique in the Manga after Kamui.

Why?

Minato has shown the greatest reaction time in the manga; dodging quite possibly the fastest attack we've seen in the Manga, less than an inch from his face.

If an attack of that speed can be dodged by Minato's reaction and FTG, any other attack should be cake.

Sadistic means that you enjoy pain, and Itachi didn't enjoy it one bit. And he understood that if he didn't do it, someone else would. He also knew that if he did do it, he'd save Sasuke. Basically everything he's ever done was for Sasuke.

KA also takes 10 years to recharge, its too risky to rely on as a trump card.

Izanami's power depends on the target.

I don't think there is any contesting that FTG is one of the best moves in all of Naruto, but its by no means an absolute defense. If you can predict where he'll be, you can hit him. Other than that, though, you're screwed.
 

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Sadistic means that you enjoy pain, and Itachi didn't enjoy it one bit. And he understood that if he didn't do it, someone else would. He also knew that if he did do it, he'd save Sasuke. Basically everything he's ever done was for Sasuke.

KA also takes 10 years to recharge, its too risky to rely on as a trump card.

Izanami's power depends on the target.

I don't think there is any contesting that FTG is one of the best moves in all of Naruto, but its by no means an absolute defense. If you can predict where he'll be, you can hit him. Other than that, though, you're screwed.

(1) Yeah I didn't mean sadistic. I thought it meant violent.

(2) Danzo's KA takes about a day to recharge.

(3) Izanami is useless on most targets.

(4) Agreed.
 

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I believe Izanami deals in indecisiveness...which is basically fear and doubt, correct? If so...all humans fall prey to doubt and fear, no? Izanami is said to teach you not to rely on Jutsu...everyone uses Jutsu, no? If all this is true would Izanami not work on any and everyone? Imho it works on everyone. I disagree...that's just me.:shy:
 

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I believe Izanami deals in indecisiveness...which is basically fear and doubt, correct? If so...all humans fall prey to doubt and fear, no? Izanami is said to teach you not to rely on Jutsu...everyone uses Jutsu, no? If all this is true would Izanami not work on any and everyone? Imho it works on everyone. I disagree...that's just me.:shy:

You're wrong.

Even Itachi, the guy who used it, agrees.
 

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This thread should have been called "A Few Of My Opinions That People Don't Want To Accept In Naruto".
 

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You're wrong.

Even Itachi, the guy who used it, agrees.

I'm incorrect? :NO: If you don't mind could you explain to me in detail how I err? Does Izanami not cause you to try and understand a decision that you have second thoughts of? As all humans fall prey to whether or not to do this, or that...Izanami should work on everyone, no? Even moreso Itachi says it teaches you not to rely on Jutsu, 99% of Ninja rely on Jutsu to some extent, no? No disrespect intended in any way just asking.:hi:
 
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I'm incorrect? :NO: If you don't mind could you explain to me in detail how I err? Does Izanami not cause you to understand a decision that you have second thoughts of? As all humans fall prey to whether or not to do this, or that...Izanami should work on everyone, no? Even moreso Itachi says it teaches you not to rely on Jutsu, 99% of Ninja rely on Jutsu to some extent, no? No disrespect intended in any way just asking.:hi:
You are such a nice member.
 

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Hmmm true he is a murderer? But IDK if I would go as far as saying he's sadistic. I'm sure he didn't enjoy killing the people he did like the uchiha. He had no other choice.
 

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This thread should have been called "A Few Of My Opinions That People Don't Want To Accept In Naruto".

Care to refute anything? :D

I'm incorrect? :NO: If you don't mind could you explain to me in detail how I err? Does Izanami not cause you to try and understand a decision that you have second thoughts of? As all humans fall prey to whether or not to do this, or that...Izanami should work on everyone, no? Even moreso Itachi says it teaches you not to rely on Jutsu, 99% of Ninja rely on Jutsu to some extent, no? No disrespect intended in any way just asking.:hi:

The jutsu effects people who cannot accept themselves/situation. That's why Itachi himself stated in can't be used in battle.

You are such a nice member.

Ugh... It sickens me.
 
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Obviously you don't know much about real ninja, killing people is what they do. Itachi had a mission and completed it, ninja are generally mercenaries and hired assassins, look up history on ninja.

Itachi did what he was ordered to do and saved the village, and prevented a world war.

he still wasent a hero, killing your family is a dishonor, obeying those criminals that and betraying your own clan is nothing more commiting treason to your own blood. where does it say itachi wanted to prevent world war by killing his clan?? nowhere!!! get your facts straight next time. its not suppost to imitate real ninjas, because they dont have sharingans and dont use fireball jutsus in real life. its just a cartoon
 

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Care to refute anything? :D



The jutsu effects people who cannot accept themselves/situation. That's why Itachi himself stated in can't be used in battle.



Ugh... It sickens me.

Refute? There is nothing TO refute. I don't care about your opinions, think what you want. But getting your own opinion mixed up with fact is almost funny. At the end of the day, this is just your opinion about a Japanese comic.
 

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Refute? There is nothing TO refute. I don't care about your opinions, think what you want. But getting your own opinion mixed up with fact is almost funny. At the end of the day, this is just your opinion about a Japanese comic.

Well, opinions can be fact, which is what these are.

My opinion is the sun is hot. My opinion is fact.
 

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Well, opinions can be fact, which is what these are.

My opinion is the sun is hot. My opinion is fact.

Debatable opinions are not fact. Everyone knows the sun is hot. Everone knows the Earth is round. Everyone knows people are animals. Opinions that are obviously debatable, are opinions. And the fact that you have your opinion confused with a fact, shows how arrogant you are.
Now if I'll be leaving, if you don't mind.
 

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Debatable opinions are not fact. Everyone knows the sun is hot. Everone knows the Earth is round. Everyone knows people are animals. Opinions that are obviously debatable, are opinions. And the fact that you have your opinion confused with a fact, shows how arrogant you are.
Now if I'll be leaving, if you don't mind.

Damn straight I'm arrogant. Because I can back it up.



Because I'm right.



Bye.


(P.S. Suggesting my opinions are not fact implies on your part that you can refute them... Ironically, you yourself stated there is nothing to refute. Funny.)
 

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Well, opinions can be fact, which is what these are.

My opinion is the sun is hot. My opinion is fact.

What is hot? Sure we've been conditioned to believe the idea of hot, but what we believe could be wrong. Hot is a term learned from someone else. You believe the sun is hot because you've been conditioned to. How can anyone who hasn't created or been to the sun truly say it's hot? You could meet the creator and he could tell you the sun is cold. Or she could tell you that it's not even the sun. It's all speculation as we as humans really know nothing we only decide to take our experiments and experience as fact given our severely limited knowledge.

Except that in actuality we know nothing. Everything you feel is true could be a lie, or false. This is a truly outside the box way of thinking whose to say it's true? Certainly not me...I could be just as oblivious as you. Who knows...don't mind me I'm a silly thinker. :shy: Also this is in no way an attempt to disrespect you.:bye:
 
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What is hot? Sure we've been conditioned to believe the idea of hot, but what we believe could be wrong. Hot is a term learned from someone else. You believe the son is hot because you've been conditioned to. How can anyone who hasn't created or been to the son truly say it's hot? You could meet the creator and he could tell you the sun is cold. Or she could tell you that it's not even the sun. It's all speculation as we as humans really know nothing we only decide to take our experiments and experience as fact given our severely limited knowledge.

Except that in actuality we know nothing. Everything you feel is true could be a lie, or false. This is a truly outside the box way of thinking whose to say it's true? Certainly not me...I could be just as oblivious as you. Who knows...don't mind me I'm a silly thinker. :shy: Also this is in no way an attempt to disrespect you.:bye:

Oh, don't get me wrong.

I completely agree. Human arrogance has grown to the point where we believe that if it can't be explained with our science, it just can't exist. Which sickens me. Some things are just never going to be explained by our feeble minds that we have come to cherished and build up and praise as the greatest thing in the Universe.

That being said, we KNOW the sun is hot. We can feel it's heat millions of miles away.
 
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