Goku vs. Superman) What did you think about this when u saw it..

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Sonic Verse > Space and Time. Shadow can manipulate it at his will without an emerald. Hes faster than Vegeta. Also, why would Vegeta destroy the planet? He can try if he wants, but considering Shadow's an experiment and he's already survived a fall to EARTH..Vegeta can solo the minor people of Sonicverse...maybe...

Also, Superman > Goku, I'm not going to debate about it again because it should be obvious by now.

I can guarantee you that Vegeta is way faster than Shadow and Sonic. The weakest DBZ characters at the early stage of Z could move faster than the speed of light, so imagine how fast Vegeta would be at the end of DBZ. Not to mention that Vegeta trains under x times gravity and he was able to retain his speed even at 500 times earths normal gravity. Imagine the x times gravity that Vegeta can train at by end of Z? Also Vegeta was able to hit a being for a moment that a fully powered Goku SSJ3 couldn't even hit and Goku SSJ3 speed is inconceivable.

Vegeta>Sonicverse

Goku>Superman

Deal with it
 

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I can guarantee you that Vegeta is way faster than Shadow and Sonic. The weakest DBZ characters at the early stage of Z could move faster than the speed of light, so imagine how fast Vegeta would be at the end of DBZ. Not to mention that Vegeta trains under x times gravity and he was able to retain his speed even at 500 times earths normal gravity. Imagine the x times gravity that Vegeta can train at by end of Z? Also Vegeta was able to hit a being for a moment that a fully powered Goku SSJ3 couldn't even hit and Goku SSJ3 speed is inconceivable.

Vegeta>Sonicverse

Goku>Superman

Deal with it

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You don't even know your facts.

It's one thing for you to say he's faster than Shadow who's surpassed the speed of sound to begin with, and has control over space and time, but you brought Sonic into it. You screwed up right there. Sonic is so much faster than Vegeta you almost made me cry laughing at your post. No, I was literally about to cry. I was on the floor. When Vegeta's speed can make him go back in time, let me know.
 

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I can guarantee you that Vegeta is way faster than Shadow and Sonic. The weakest DBZ characters at the early stage of Z could move faster than the speed of light, so imagine how fast Vegeta would be at the end of DBZ. Not to mention that Vegeta trains under x times gravity and he was able to retain his speed even at 500 times earths normal gravity. Imagine the x times gravity that Vegeta can train at by end of Z? Also Vegeta was able to hit a being for a moment that a fully powered Goku SSJ3 couldn't even hit and Goku SSJ3 speed is inconceivable.

Vegeta>Sonicverse

Goku>Superman

Deal with it
Pikachu > DBZ verse.

Deal with it
 
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You don't even know your facts.

It's one thing for you to say he's faster than Shadow who's surpassed the speed of sound to begin with, and has control over space and time, but you brought Sonic into it. You screwed up right there. Sonic is so much faster than Vegeta you almost made me cry laughing at your post. No, I was literally about to cry. I was on the floor. When Vegeta's speed can make him go back in time, let me know.

This just shows your true colours Youth and Full power.

You are a SONIC FANBOY!!! HAHAHAHAHA

Sonic speed goes back in time so that makes him faster than Vegeta? No
Sonic uses the Chaos Emerald for him to travel back in time. There is no way Sonic is faster than a SSJ.

You and the rest lose
 
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I swear you still didnt link us to what your talking about but ok
 

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This just shows your true colours Youth and Full power.

You are a SONIC FANBOY!!! HAHAHAHAHA

Sonic speed goes back in time so that makes him faster than Vegeta? No
Sonic uses the Chaos Emerald for him to travel back in time. There is no way Sonic is faster than a SSJ.

Sonic is way faster. I am a Sonic fan. Problem? Sonic didn't use chaos emerald, he used his speed to travel back in time. Play Sonic CD.
 
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Sonic is way faster. I am a Sonic fan. Problem? Sonic didn't use chaos emerald, he used his speed to travel back in time. Play Sonic CD.

I have played Sonic CD and it's a great game. I'm stuck on the Metal Sonic level, it's to difficult.

Do you know that Gotenks raced dozens of times around the Universe in a flash? I just can't see Sonic being faster than a Super Saiyan, even yellow Sonic with all the Chaos Emeralds at his disposal.
 

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Supes is way stronger than goku. Just look him up. If they used pre-crisis superman that death-battle would of been done.
 

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I say Goku should had won, he was in SSJ4. He should have defeated Superman, but it was a good fight
 

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I have played Sonic CD and it's a great game. I'm stuck on the Metal Sonic level, it's to difficult.

Do you know that Gotenks raced dozens of times around the Universe in a flash? I just can't see Sonic being faster than a Super Saiyan, even yellow Sonic with all the Chaos Emeralds at his disposal.

Gotenks didn't accomplish that in an instant or a second and it made his fusion null. Sonic's time traveling through his speed only proves how much faster than SSJ he is in the slightest, he did that in his base form. Sonic's speed literally made him turn blue as a baby..Just as an infant Sonic could run fast enough to pull that off. Sonic has accomplished what Gotenks did in literally an instant, so fast that he made time stop, and he did it more than once just to cream some missiles. Gotenks tired out after doing just that, while Sonic couldn't even control his power.
 
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Gotenks didn't accomplish that in an instant or a second and it made his fusion null. Sonic's time traveling through his speed only proves how much faster than SSJ he is in the slightest, he did that in his base form. Sonic's speed literally made him turn blue as a baby..Just as an infant Sonic could run fast enough to pull that off. Sonic has accomplished what Gotenks did in literally an instant, so fast that he made time stop, and he did it more than once just to cream some missiles. Gotenks tired out after doing just that, while Sonic couldn't even control his power.

A flash isn't instant?

Gotenks wasn't even at full power when he was testing his speed. Your saying Sonic's faster because he can control time but opinions are opinions. I think Super Saiyan's are faster and you think Sonic is faster.

Just don't believe the stupid and idiotic death battle people as they think Vegeta's speed is only hypersonic, what bullish!t
 

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A flash isn't instant?

Gotenks wasn't even at full power when he was testing his speed. Your saying Sonic's faster because he can control time but opinions are opinions. I think Super Saiyan's are faster and you think Sonic is faster.

Just don't believe the stupid and idiotic death battle people as they think Vegeta's speed is only hypersonic, what bullish!t

According to the time Gotenks did this, he didn't do it in an instant. Unless you show me a clip where he does it in an instant or something. And Sonic's speed is so fast that he could literally manipulate space/time in his base form. That's a speed feat, that's the point I was trying to make.

As for Death Battle, I know they are biased, so I won't argue there.

Just found out that I can't .. stop bashing eachother please.

We're not bashing.
 

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A flash isn't instant?

Gotenks wasn't even at full power when he was testing his speed. Your saying Sonic's faster because he can control time but opinions are opinions. I think Super Saiyan's are faster and you think Sonic is faster.

Just don't believe the stupid and idiotic death battle people as they think Vegeta's speed is only hypersonic, what bullish!t

K Guardian, what facts do you have to say Goku beats Superman? Even in your alt you still can't debate properly
 
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According to the time Gotenks did this, he didn't do it in an instant. Unless you show me a clip where he does it in an instant or something. And Sonic's speed is so fast that he could literally manipulate space/time in his base form. That's a speed feat, that's the point I was trying to make.

As for Death Battle, I know they are biased, so I won't argue there.



We're not bashing.

Gotenks actually does do it in a instant but Toei had to slow the Animation down for people to see. Sonic may manipulate space/time but is he many times faster than the speed of light like Vegeta? I doubt it
 
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There is a reason i have Shadow as my avatar. He is one of the strongest characters in fiction.

Game Sonic >>>>>> DBZ

Sonic X >= DBZ

Archie Comics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DBZ

We are talking about guys who crush multiverses(many univerese together) in their hands. Their fight cause universes to collapse as side effects. DBZ characters fight hand to hand and maybe mountains crumble. When Sonic characters clash fists, the universe explodes. That should tell you just how much stronger they are compared to DBZ.


And being able to stop time is an insanely hax move. Basically Shadow would rape Vegeta when time is stopped with a general Chaos Spear up his ass. Only people who have not played all the games, or read the comics would argue for DBZ.


And yes, Superman wins. They used a post crisis composite Superman vs Goku given all anime feats, including movies and GT. Sadly they boosted Goku way beyond his canon feats and didn't give Super man his strongest feats and Superman still won. The only verson that Goku could beat is the Golden Age Superman. You know, the one where hes faster then a bullet, more powerful then a locomotive, can leap tall buildings in a single bound. I'd even et Naruto could beat that version.

Post Crisis Superman >= SSJ4 Goku with movie feats
Precrisis >>>>>>>>> Goku
Superboy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goku
Superman 1 million >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goku
Cosmic armor Superman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(add a few hundred more > here) >>>>>> Goku


Don't believe me? Go pick up a comic and read.
 
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