Pateuvasiliu's Databook ( 4th )

[Sennin of Logic]

I like this. However, there's something that I disagree with. Naruto should at least have a 4 in both speed and taijutsu. In base mode, Naruto prevented Deva Path from landing a hit on him, despite the fact that the 6 Paths of Pain were good enough in taijutsu to outclass many ninja when invading konoha.


He should get a 4 in speed because of this.

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Naruto rescued Sakura out of nowhere despite the fact the kunai was already close to Sakura to begin with. This is comparable to Sasuke's speed feat the first time the met in part 2.

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He also shouldn't have a 5 in genjutsu as a sage. We don't know if he improved on breaking it until he got biju mode. When he obtained biju mode, he became immune to genjutsu and his chakra control has increased to the level that he can make a tailed beast ransengan one-handed, despite the fact that it's harder to control than the ransengan. Also, the fact that he could remotely control his chakra through the cloaks to protect the alliance shows his increased chakra control.

 

[Masked man]

Oh, well. I totally disagree.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Okay, I personally like my own databook better.

Okay, Naruto has gotten a lot smarter, but it's still not on the level of 4.5. That's on the level of Kakuzu and Part one Kakashi. It'd be more like 3.5 or 4.

Others that are 3.5:
Kisame, Kimimaro, Beginning part 2 Sasuke

Others that are four:
beginning part 2 Shino and Sakura, Kurenai

The fact you kept Sasuke's intelligence at 3.5 baffles me. He should AT LEAST be at four, if not 4.5. He has show high intelligence; versus Kabuto, Itachi, Orochimaru, and Deidara. His problem at the kage summit wasn't his intelligence, it was his hatred and arrogance.

Sakura base should be lower. Not much lower, just a little lower. Primaryily in Taijutsu and Stamina.

Sasuke with barely any chakra left, was able to summon Manda. And he had a 3.5 at the time. (Though you could round up to four in his cs2 state).

So Sakura only really needs a 3 in Chakra to summon a big slug. But I would put her at 3.5 to be sure. Not four.

Sakura has shown high strength levels, and her taijutsu has improved. But it's more like 3.5 tbh. Her main asset is useing her strength (which is perfect imo), and punching the ground or the enemy. Her Taijutsu in itself isn't as good. At best, she'd have a four. Probably a 3.5.

Her intelligence could go up to 4.5 though.

Team seven stats:

Sasuke:
Ninjutsu: 5

Taijutsu: 4.5 (+1)
(Because he was able to keep up with Itachi in a taijutsu fight. And Kakashi later on)

Genjutsu: 4.5
(+.5) (His sharingan would bring it up to five, but his base genjutsu wouldn't be as strong as the genjutsu gods)

Intelligence: 4.5 (+1)

Strength: 3.5 (+0)

Speed: 5 (+0.5) he's gotten really fast. Maybe as fast his brother, but not as fast as Ay, MInato, or Naruto. Dont get me wrong

Stamina: 4 (+0.5) he spams techniques that drain a lot of chakra a lot.

Hand seals: 4.5 (+0.5) he can use echniques really quickly now.

Total: 35.5 (4) His base has gotten quite strong imo. He should be able to keep up with Itachi's base now.

Sakura:
Ninjutsu: 4 (+1) (Same reason you said)
Tai: 3.5 (+0.5) reason I said above
Gen: 3.5 (+0) (seen no improvement)
Intelligence: 4.5 (+0.5) seems to be smarter. Like when she found out about Zetsu's shiz.
Strength: 4.5 (+1.5) (No one is going to deny this chick is strong)
Speed: 3.5 (+0.5) a little faster
Stamina: 3.5 (+1) (yin seal)
Hand seals: 4 (+0)

Total: 31 (+5)

Naruto:
Nin: 5 (+1) (same as you)
Tai: 4.5 (+1) (he's gotten more powerful)
Genjutsu: 2.5 (+0,5) (I'm giving him benefit of the doubt on this one)
Intelligence: 3.5 (+0.5) (he's gotten smarter)
Strength: 4.5 (+1) (He's gotten physically stronger, by alot)
Speed: 4.5 (+1) Saved Sakura from Sasuke.
Stamina: 5 (+0)
Hand seals: 2.5 (+1) (He's shown some improvement)
Total: 32 (+6)

Too lazy to do the rest

 

[Mellanoma]

Sasuke should have a 4 at most for genjutsu

Bee intelligence should be 3 and his taijutsu should be 5.. Remember he took on EMS sasuke with no difficulty

Minato FTG doesn't require seals so his hand seal should be 4 (Itachi is the only one who has shown insane hand seal speed)

 

[pateuvasiliu]

I disagree with Naruto getting 4.5 in taijutsu. He's not Kakashi or Lee level. Not even close.

Minato FTG doesn't require seals so his hand seal should be 4 (Itachi is the only one who has shown insane hand seal speed)

Nay.

Minato ported 2 TBBs extremely quick, he gets a 5.

 

[warlee]

So hw come deva defeat kakashi in cqc and couldn't do the same with base naruto? Kakashi didn't show any special taijutsu style either. And you didn't reply my post on this subject. How did sasuke, sakura, kakashi improve on those things they improve on when they are not shown doin so? Don't apply double standard bro. Naruto has been constantly fightin top tiers that is enough to improve his base, his taijutsu and speed can stay the same after those high level combat and rigorous trainin arcs.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

So hw come deva defeat kakashi in cqc and couldn't do the same with base naruto? Kakashi didn't show any special taijutsu style either. And you didn't reply my post on this subject. How did sasuke, sakura, kakashi improve on those things they improve on when they are not shown doin so? Don't apply double standard bro. Naruto has been constantly fightin top tiers that is enough to improve his base, his taijutsu and speed can stay the same after those high level combat and rigorous trainin arcs.

When did Naruto fight deva in cqc? He was always in Sage Mode, was he not?

 

[SonTj]

this is pretty good

 

[TheEvilOne]

I counted Madara's fan, which he used to block a Kyuubirasengan, as taijutsu + he has the strongest eyes in the series, so that also helps him in taijutsu.

Using a tool/ weapon/ sword is NOT taijutsu. It's kenjutsu.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

When did Naruto fight deva in cqc? He was always in Sage Mode, was he not?

It's shown here.

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He blocked every single one of Deva Path's attacks. He was in base mode as well.

 

[Byakusharinnegan]

...You gave Sakura a higher score than Naruto....

But aside from that, pretty accurate.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

...You gave Sakura a higher score than Naruto....

But aside from that, pretty accurate.

Only because she has points in Genjutsu he should not have.

Naruto's genjutsu score is very low.

As I said in my first post, just because one has a higher score than another doesn't make him stronger.

 

[bablujojo]

In the manga, Kakashi can beat Obito. And I think he's stronger than Sakura. Not by much, but a little stronger.

 

[Fodder#4]

I agree with most of it, though I think Minato's a bit high.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

I agree with most of it, though I think Minato's a bit high.

What's high about it? I already put his genjutsu at 4 to avoid hater rage, even though Hiruzen has a 5 and he never used genjutsu.

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

put kushina uzumaki's one too.

 

[illidanson]

Pretty good compared to some of the others i've seen.

Just a question though: Why did you set Minatos stamina to 5? We haven't seen anything to suggest he has that much stamina.

Also the "There can be only one good of shinobi" made me lol.

Ever heard of Rikodou???

 

[sultan1998]

you should give kakashi a 4.5/5 in genjutsu because he did improve
he knocked two anbu members in the same time with genjutsu
and you should give him five i taijutsu if it includes the 8 gates and kenjutsu (swordstyle)

 

[sultan1998]

In the manga, Kakashi can beat Obito. And I think he's stronger than Sakura. Not by much, but a little stronger.

i didnt understand who are saying is stronger than sakura (naruto or kakashi)
and sho is stronger than her in what exactly

 

[Gakido]

Sasuke keeping up with Itachi while tired was anime only.

Kakashi won their one exchange in the manga.