Naruto is nothing without Kurama? Ha, FAIL!

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I always laugh when I see some Sasuke-fans who can't accept the truth, writing down bullshit like "Naruto always cheats with Kurama"...


Let me explain something:

1. Sasuke is also born with his powerful eyes, remember. Just like Naruto with Kurama. Just like that. Take that power from his eyes away, and Sasuke is just a fodder. A shitty, little fodder. This while Naruto still has Sage Mode = Elite Shinobi. Naruto Sage Mode can be as great as Hashirama's SM when more experienced. Naruto is an Uzumaki wich means he has incredibly lot of chakra, so there is even a chance that he in the future can become a better SM user then the 'God of Shinobi' Hashirama himself. Do not ignore this. Naruto Sage Mode has nothing to do with Kurama. He can do this all by himself.

Edit: Look, even Kurama was scared! This says a lot!
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2. Naruto suffered from the Kyuubi for many years, it was not a gift. Naruto was man enough to handle the Kyuubi. For example, if Sasuke would have been the Jinchuuriki, believe me, Konoha was already destroyed because Kurama would have already manipulated Sasuke easily. If Orochimaru, Obito and others could manipulate Sasuke, then Kurama for sure. But not with Naruto, who's will and mind is much stronger then Sasuke's. Naruto gaining the respect from Kurama is his biggest victory till now.

3. AND last but not least, Naruto didn't choose to be the 9-tails Jinchuuriki. But Sasuke chose to 'cheat' when he went to Orochimaru because BASE NARUTO'S (!!!!) rasengan was more impressive then his chidori (remember... Lol) and he went apeshit and jealous and understood he needed some cheats. Also for his vengeance vs Itachi, yes, but remember back in part 1 how incredibly jealous and mad Sasuke was when he noticed Naruto's rasengan > his chidori.
 
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Naruto has strong chakra too....To be able to supress the kyuubi's chakra need that
 

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Nah, Minato was create to show how naruto wouldve progress without kuruma sort of, as well as Kushina. Naruto is basicallt overpowered, with or without the nine tails
 

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Read that it was a bashing thread... continued to read anyway.

Read "Borned and Choosed..." gave up hope.

OT/OP, nobody will take you seriously if all you ever do is put your favorite character on a pedestal while putting down another character. I know i don't. And that's ignoring some of the blatant bias and false information.
 
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I always laugh when I see some Sasuke-fans who can't accept the truth, writing down bullshit like "Naruto always cheats with Kurama"...


Let me explain something:

1. Sasuke is also borned with his powerfull eyes, remember. Just like Naruto with Kurama. Just like that. Take that power from his eyes away, and Sasuke is just a fodder. A shitty, little fodder. This while Naruto still has Sage Mode = Elite Shinobi. Naruto Sage Mode can be as great as Hashirama's SM when more experienced. Naruto is an Uzumaki wich means he has incredibly lot of chakra, so there is even a chance that he in the future can become a better SM user then the 'God of Shinobi' Hashirama himself. Do not ignore this. Naruto Sage Mode has nothing to do with Kurama. He can do this all by himself.

2. Naruto suffered from the Kyuubi for many years, it was not a gift. Naruto was man enough to handle the Kyuubi. For example, if Sasuke would have been the Jinchuuriki, believe me, Konoha was already destroyed because Kurama would have already manipulated Sasuke easily. If Orochimaru, Obito and others could manipulate Sasuke, then Kurama for sure. But not with Naruto, who's will and mind is much stronger then Sasuke's. Naruto gaining the respect from Kurama is hig biggest victory till now.

3. AND last but not least, Naruto didn't choose to be the 9-tails Jinchuuriki. But Sasuke CHOOSED to 'cheat' when he went to Orochimaru because BASE NARUTO'S (!!!!) rasengan was more impressive then his chidori (remember... Lol) and he want apeshit and jealous and understood he needed some cheats. Also for his vengeance vs Itachi, yes, but remember back in part 1 how was incredible jealous and mad when he noticed Naruto's rasengan > his chidori.

... uhh.. what's your point? Dojutsu and kekkei genkai isn't a choice either. Idk why people try to seperate kurama/naruto and ninja/kekkei genkai. Don't hate, appreciate.
 

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Nah, Naruto and Sasuke's case in terms of power is different
The Sharigan is Herditary
The Kyubi is selective
 

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Let's not forget about that determination of his that makes him strong
 

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Let's not forget about that determination of his that makes him strong

I think Sasuke's determination was high too. But the kid was easy to manipulate by others like Oro or Obito. Kurama could have done it for sure then... Even Naruto suffered a lot from it vs Kurama in the past.
 

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-Oro's seal.
-Itachi's eyes.

He likes to take (copy) skills from others, yes.

Naruto=Uzumaki blood which gives him chakra levels 100x greater than an average shinobi (in case you forgot)
Sasuke=Uchiha blood which gives him the sharingan

Naruto=Given kyuubi at birth.
-Was a burden until quite recently
Sasuke=Given EMS around the same time naruto's kyuubi became beneficial.

Naruto=Sage mode, impossible without his uzumaki chakra reserves
Sasuke=Curse mark, gone so it doesn't even matter anymore

They're both given a lot, and they are both great at using what they have. Stop being so butthurt, naruto and sasuke are equal in every way.
 

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I agree that other fanboys made degrade Narutos powers but in truth Sasuke is skilled enough in base mode.

Nah, Minato was create to show how naruto wouldve progress without kuruma sort of, as well as Kushina. Naruto is basicallt overpowered, with or without the nine tails
Yea but without Kurama Narutos OP'edness would be all his hard work. Remember Kurama was messing with his chakra manipulation so he couldn't perform jutsus so easily.
 

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The series is a whole lot different if we place "if"
 

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So much about bashing, what's this suppose to mean?
Are you 12 years old? Where do I bash? I made some good points and you can't argue with them... deal with it, kid.
current sasuke not use orochmaru seal
He has it. Not using it now, but he still has the seal.
They're both given a lot, and they are both great at using what they have. Stop being so butthurt, naruto and sasuke are equal in every way.
Butthurt? I just gave you 3 points. 3 facts. Try to ignore them or debate with me. Do not talk about other stuff.
 
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Dumbass, Naruto was given with Kyuubi after his bird, it's not something that he posses to begin with,
fail thread,
fail comparison.

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Trying to be smart? I know that, but the concept is still the same. Naruto got it like a few minutes after it... So I repeat myself, the whole point between Naruto and Sasuke remains the same.

Funny you try to debate with me, I think half of my rep points are because I owned you in previous discussions. :) Do yourself a pleasure and just don't watch this thread. You can't handle the truth.
 

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All Naruto ever needed from Kurama was the boss whiskers.

He has that, and he's golden :cool:
 
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