Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade died

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Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade died

Madara seems to be waiting for something. Probably for perfect Juubi, and he even seems unconcerned with Hashirama clones at the moment. Let's consider the alternatives: Madara is excited because he can show Hashirama something.

We already know that EMS Madara > Naruto BM.

Yes, I just seriously said that Madara is stronger than Naruto But wait you can't say that seriously, narutoblitz! Yes, I can.

Why? Madara defeated Hashirama at the Valley of the End. That's right, folks. The God of Shinobi was defeated. Let us preponder the evidence:

-We don't know how Hashirama died
-Hashirama has NO IDEA how Madara survived, but we know he did
-Real Hashirama corpse: Is in the old Gedo statue in the Obito flashback, though barely visible
-Orochimaru had Hashi cells to create Yamato, implying a connection
-The panel where Hashi "defeats” Madara shows a close-up of Madara's Sharingan

So what happened? Easy. Hashirama was placed under genjutsu in the final fight. He was made to think he had killed Madara. In reality, Madara won. He was never fatally wounded and led a life away from the village. Hashirama cells were taken and used to awaken Rinnegan. The real Hashirama's corpse was added to the statue by a griefstruck Madara. Tobirama never knew.

We see Madara has done some pretty B.A. things since waking up. Consider, again, the logical evidence:

-The dude awoke Rinnegan on his own
-He summoned meteors. Twice.
-Madara wiped out an entire division of the Alliance without breaking a sweat, on his own
-He absolutely slaughtered all 5 Kage, using mere clones, in an OFF SCREEN battle
-Naruto's most powerful attack, TBB, with Naruto in BM mode, was deflected by Madara using one hand using his gunbai

So let's consider that EMS Madara probably was stronger than Hashirama or at least as strong. He dominated the complete Nine Tails. But, but cry the fanboys, Naruto is a perfect Jinch. Irrelevant. The Kyuubi is still subject to being controlled by Rinnegan/EMS. Naruto is immune to genjutsu, but Kurama is NOT. We are also told the Juubi was controlled by Rinnegan.

Madara is unconcerned with the main battle because he can kill Naruto at any given time he wants to. Unless we think BM Naruto is stronger than all 5 Kage combined. Wait I have a comment on that thought:

LOL! KCM Naruto struggled with Raikage alone and nearly died against Edo Nagato. BM Naruto was still not doing all so well against Obito, and that was with Kakashi and Bee's help. The simple reality is that Madara entirely outclasses Naruto in every single way. That\s without considering Edo Tensei or Rinnegan, which means that he can literally cancel all of Naruto's attacks or use Perfect Susanno to murder stomp Naruto and crew whenever, as noted by Obito.

Naruto is too young to be Hokage, and is basically too immature. He was even scolded by Itachi for thinking arrogantly he could end the war on his own. That arrogance led to his near-defeat by Edo Nagato and to needing Itachi's intervention AGAIN to escape defeat by the Edo Jinchuruki and Obito. If Itachi had not defeated Kabuto, then Naruto would have been captured twice over.

Naruto is too unintelligent to be a leader. This is shown time and time again when he lacks the intelligence to do anything except come up with momentary battle plans, and the fact that villains like Madara EASILY see through his clones and all of his cheap tricks. Naruto is likewise too immature to be Hokage, as stated by Kakashi earlier in the series.

After Minato died in the fight against a 16 year old Obito and failed to protect his wife and stop the kyuubi extraction, leadering to the deaths of thousands, Naruto grew up alone and isolated. The fact is that both Itachi and Sasuke would make superior Hokage candidates compared to a joker like Naruto.

So why is Tsunade dead? She got cut in half and told the slug to not revive her. Oh, and that slug just got summoned to the main battle. My guess is we get a time-skip before Naruto maybe becomes Hokage. I am guessing it's more likely that Madara will be defeated by the Power of Love and Friendship, rather than Naruto alone.
 

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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

after few lines... my eyes started to bleed..:what:
 

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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

Who said Hashiramas body is in the Gedo statue? He just got some of his DNA, not his corpse?
 

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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

I think anyone looking at the manga events objectively will conclude that we don't know how Hashirama died, why Madara survived to meet Obito or why Madara is not doing anything in the fight. A smart and strong guy like that should scare the piss out of us as fans. He doesn't see this fight as worth his time, for some reason.

The little involvement he has had involved a few massive attacks slaughtering hundreds, owning the 5 Kage and trouncing Naruto in BM mode.

Source: Page 12 of 602. Also page 16. We see Hashirama and/or a clone trapped in the statue. It's also shown briefly in the anime when Yamato is captured. We don't know if it is his corpse or a clone, granted.

The evidence so far points to a weird situation where Hashirama has no idea how Madara survived the fight and Hashirama's death was a young one, in addition to being under mysterious circumstances.
 
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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

you inside infinite tsukuyomi
 

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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

Sorry don't believe you.
You go against everything we have learned in the previous flashbacks
 

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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

It's obvious that EMS Madara can beat Naruto and what makes you think that he is going to become Hokage after the war is over?

Tsunade most likely isn't dead because Orochimaru and Karin didn't show up with Sasuke. Also Katsuya wasn't summoned by Sakura, it was a different slug. Unless Katsuya was finished healing the Gokages.

Sasuke wouldn't make a better Hokage than Naruto, only Itachi would. Sasuke only seems to care about his clan, not the entire village. Itachi on the other hand gave up his life and killed his whole clan to protect the village.

EDIT: Also Madara was revived through Edo Tensei, he has infinite chakra reserves. Naruto's mini-bijuudama was reflected by Madara's gunbai. The clones he used against the Gokages were using Susano'o and it was 5 clones per Kage.

I hope you know Naruto's clone struggled against the Raikage but, that clone also beat him. How? He noticed the scar on his chest and talked to the Hachibi about it. Then came up with the conclusion that the Raikage's own jutsu put the scar on his chest.

Kurama is sealed inside Naruto so, yes he is immune to genjutsu.

You just seem like a really big Naruto hater..
 
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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

Hashirama died some time after the founding of Konoha in one of the many wars that were raging during this revolutionary era, but not before passing on the title of Hokage to Tobirama. narutowiki
 

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All I se is



I AM A HATER!!!!
 

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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

Because Madara is the first person to be stabbed in the torso and survive....

Besides EMS Madara fought Hashirama with the Kyuubi on his side
 

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You are stating a prediction like it was the truth. We don't know for sure if madara used or didn't use a genjutsu, so we can't just state that.

Ems madara is not stronger than BM naruto. First, Kcm<<<<<BM. And in the fight against the raikage, naruto wasn't even atacking. He was just blocking. Remember that his clone defeated the other raikage.
Naruto is not immune to genjutsu, kurama can mess with his chakra flow, getting him out of the genjutsu. Naruto can do the same thing with kurama's chakra, and madara can't enter naruto's body to cast a genjutsu in kurama.

It was never stated that the juubi was controlled by the rinnegan, it was never stated.

The body you see in the gedo mazo is just a reflection of hashirama's cells being grown in the statue.

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I don't think the slug sakura summoned is the same that was with tsunade, but I agree, I think she will die somehow.
But madara rinnegan is indeed stronger than naruto BM. Let's see, I think naruto will get the other half of kurama's chakra and fuse his improved BM with sage mode. I can't be sure.
 
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How did Mito Uzumaki obtain the Nine Tails if Hashirama died during the battle between him and Madara?
 

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BM Naruto > EMS Madara
 

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BM Naruto > EMS Madara

^^ what this guy said and yeah I didn't bother reading all this since I forgot my glasses Lol
 

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Dat text wall... I kind of gave up :what:
 

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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

U seem to not like naruto
 

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It was to full of but hurt to read.

You are obviously just hating, Naruto is qualified to be Hokage.
 

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Re: Hashirama lost, Madara>>BM Naruto,Naruto is unqualified to be Hokage and Tsunade

You are stating a prediction like it was the truth. We don't know for sure if madara used or didn't use a genjutsu, so we can't just state that.

Ems madara is not stronger than BM naruto. First, Kcm<<<<<BM. And in the fight against the raikage, naruto wasn't even atacking. He was just blocking. Remember that his clone defeated the other raikage.
Naruto is not immune to genjutsu, kurama can mess with his chakra flow, getting him out of the genjutsu. Naruto can do the same thing with kurama's chakra, and madara can't enter naruto's body to cast a genjutsu in kurama.

It was never stated that the juubi was controlled by the rinnegan, it was never stated.

The body you see in the gedo mazo is just a reflection of hashirama's cells being grown in the statue.

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I don't think the slug sakura summoned is the same that was with tsunade, but I agree, I think she will die somehow.
But madara rinnegan is indeed stronger than naruto BM. Let's see, I think naruto will get the other half of kurama's chakra and fuse his improved BM with sage mode. I can't be sure.

Could not have stated it better myself, it bugs me when people say their own predictions has if it is the blinding truth, the person is assuming too much and coming out with things that are simply not true. Agreed with everything stated in the person I quoted :)
 

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The stupidity in the OP is amazing.. However, you're the kid that said you were "done" with the manga, yet you keep coming back and posting/making dumb threads. Amusing lol.

Guess you aren't done, are ya?
 

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Sorry,manga disagree's with u
there is no way in the world for Madara to cast genjutsu on Hashirama since controling kyubi is a big deal ,,,and right after lossing control over the 9 tails his Sharingan is deactivated ,it is conformed many times(Even by Madara) that Hashi won that battle
I dnt think genjutsu wil wotk on Hashi since he fought and won against the real pwr Uchiha countless times,,,,
Hashi died during 1st shinobi world war (May be there is a chance that Madara killed him)
Iam pretty sure that EMS Madara(alive) can't beat 5 kage...any one of the can give him hard time if the battle is with alive EMS Madara....
Madara did defeated the five kage by using Hashi's pwrs not with his own...his pwrs barle help him to defeand him self from them ,,if he is nt EDO he would be dead.........
I disagree with ur sentence abt Minato, iam pretty sure not even Madara or Hashirama can be able to save Naruto from Obito and Kushina from 9tails and defeat Obito that easily and Save the village frm Kyubi,,,,,,,
Naruto wil be perfect Hokage(no need for explination)
Sasuke lack's leadership qualitieds and he didn't even care abt his comrades and not even give them a little respect how can some one like him wil be a good Hokage..most of ppl wil nt acnwldge him.....
 
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