To Sasuke Fans And Naruto Fans: Here's The Truth

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Gambunta clearly states that he recognizes Naruto so at the point onward he would provide his assistance if needed.. Naruto saved his son after all so why not? You're just making assumptions Gambunta isn't like Manda. No he didn't he did it with his own chakra he finally ran out of chakra when he was on shukaku's head he even says so and thats when he finally uses kurama's chakra. Yeah different fight different situation all together. Actually both their techniques cancelled out Sasuke uses his hands to pierce him.

I doubt Bunta would want to get involved in a personal grudge. I also doubt that Naruto would have wanted him involved in a personal grudge.
 

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Ill accept your surrender . you cant counter any arguments anyway !

I'm not surrendering to you.. it's more like I'm not going to argue with someone who's not even arguing about the same thing Lol I brought manga scans while you didn't what does that say? Good day to you sir :)
 

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I doubt Bunta would want to get involved in a personal grudge. I also doubt that Naruto would have wanted him involved in a personal grudge.
That's why he was invloved in the Sanin battle right? That was a person grudge match.. Besides Naruto was trying to save sasuke the only one who had a grudge was sasuke.
 

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I'm not surrendering to you.. it's more like I'm not going to argue with someone who's not even arguing about the same thing Lol I brought manga scans while you didn't what does that say? Good day to you sir :)
you brought manga scans that didnt prove anything except bunta was pissed at one tail for attacking his son . You didnt prove that bunta would fight with naruto whenever naruto commanded . He told naruto he was buntas henchmen not vice versa. nor did you prove naruto let sasuke win .
 
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That's why he was invloved in the Sanin battle right? That was a person grudge match.. Besides Naruto was trying to save sasuke the only one who had a grudge was sasuke.

The Sannin were fighting with summons. Totally different situation.
 

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Gambunta clearly states that he recognizes Naruto so at the point onward he would provide his assistance if needed.. Naruto saved his son after all so why not? You're just making assumptions Gambunta isn't like Manda.
Bunta would help naruto sure, but not in forcing his friend to be where he doesnt want to. Even jiraya said sasuke went on his own will, even if brought back nothing would change. So commons sense states that bunda wouldnt get involved.
No he didn't he did it with his own chakra he finally ran out of chakra when he was on shukaku's head he even says so and thats when he finally uses kurama's chakra. Yeah different fight different situation all together. Actually both their techniques cancelled out Sasuke uses his hands to pierce him.
No, no and no. Naruto attempted to summon bunta on his own but got his son instead, only with kurama power that naruto got twice, he made it. So u do not see a white chakra around sasuke's hand when he hits naruto now?
 

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Again, this is just an assumption. Kishi showed it, as he was able to mark his forehead. Not that he could have gotten a proper blow in. Naruto was never shown thinking about it when they matched blows. And if you hadn't noticed, Naruto's 1 tailed cloak had dissipated. CM2 & 3t Sasuke > Kyuubi chakra Naruto.
Naruto's cloak dissipated because of Sasuke's blow.. Naruto didn't land a blow because as I've said countless times he wanted to scratch his headband. Since when is it a requirement that Naruto has to think about it? If Sasuke had never made any comment about the headband previously I would agree with you and give up this argument but Sasuke did which obviously means Naruto intended to do that show Sasuke that he's grown that power isn't everything it takes to be a ninja.. why do you think Sasuke never killed Naruto afterwards? Naruto by doing that made Sasuke realize something.. Sasuke was going to follow Itachi's way of killing a best friend to obtain MS but due to what Naruto did Sasuke decides to obtain power his own way.
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Naruto's cloak dissipated because of Sasuke's blow.. Naruto didn't land a blow because as I've said countless times he wanted to scratch his headband. Since when is it a requirement that Naruto has to think about it? If Sasuke had never made any comment about the headband previously I would agree with you and give up this argument but Sasuke did which obviously means Naruto intended to do that show Sasuke that he's grown that power isn't everything it takes to be a ninja.. why do you think Sasuke never killed Naruto afterwards? Naruto by doing that made Sasuke realize something.. Sasuke was going to follow Itachi's way of killing a best friend to obtain MS but due to what Naruto did Sasuke decides to obtain power his own way.
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Notice the first panel where his cloak is nowhere to be seen.
 
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Naruto's cloak dissipated because of Sasuke's blow.. Naruto didn't land a blow because as I've said countless times he wanted to scratch his headband. Since when is it a requirement that Naruto has to think about it? If Sasuke had never made any comment about the headband previously I would agree with you and give up this argument but Sasuke did which obviously means Naruto intended to do that show Sasuke that he's grown that power isn't everything it takes to be a ninja.. why do you think Sasuke never killed Naruto afterwards? Naruto by doing that made Sasuke realize something.. Sasuke was going to follow Itachi's way of killing a best friend to obtain MS but due to what Naruto did Sasuke decides to obtain power his own way.
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No he decided to get more power his own way because he didnt want to obey itachi .
 

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No he decided to get more power his own way because he didnt want to obey itachi .
Yeah he realized that after fight Naruto before that he was trying to kill Naruto to obtain MS.
 

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It dissipated within the giant ball of chakra.

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Notice the first panel where his cloak is nowhere to be seen.
I just saw the anime version the cloak was still there when Sasuke pierced him it disappeared afterwards.
 

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you brought manga scans that didnt prove anything except bunta was pissed at one tail for attacking his son . You didnt prove that bunta would fight with naruto whenever naruto commanded . He told naruto he was buntas henchmen not vice versa. nor did you prove naruto let sasuke win .

Summoning do not count as a ninja's strength simply as a feat they've accomplished.. Naruto vs Sasuke pt1 was a 1v1, any summoning would change the battle instantly to a 2v1.. Naruto wanted an equal fight between his fellow shonobi and to drag him back with his own power..

Bunta is like you said.. a sidekick.. a helper.. another person overall.. and then it wouldn't be a fair fight.. Naruto wanted to test his own strength against Sasuke.. not have Bunta step on him. Bunta doesn't count as Naruto's own strength
 

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Bunta would help naruto sure, but not in forcing his friend to be where he doesnt want to. Even jiraya said sasuke went on his own will, even if brought back nothing would change. So commons sense states that bunda wouldnt get involved.
No, no and no. Naruto attempted to summon bunta on his own but got his son instead, only with kurama power that naruto got twice, he made it. So u do not see a white chakra around sasuke's hand when he hits naruto now?
How would you know that? If Bunta recognizes Naruto then why not? Naruto wants to save his friend from evil there is no reason why Bunta would not participate. Even so Naruto was using Kyuubi chakra in that fight anyways so it doesn't change anything. Yeah but it was mostly gone watch anime version it dissipates as he uses his hand to pierce Naruto so it was mostly his hand.
 

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Yeah he realized that after fight Naruto before that he was trying to kill Naruto to obtain MS.
Because as i said, sasuke didnt want to do that at all, otherwise he'd hunt naruto to get MS.
He found himself tempted to do so in that fight, but in the end couldnt. Partly cuz naruto showed how big of a friend he was, but mostly cuz sasuke wasnt all that about power.
How would you know that? If Bunta recognizes Naruto then why not? Naruto wants to save his friend from evil there is no reason why Bunta would not participate. Even so Naruto was using Kyuubi chakra in that fight anyways so it doesn't change anything. Yeah but it was mostly gone watch anime version it dissipates as he uses his hand to pierce Naruto so it was mostly his hand.
Dude, anime doesnt count.
And bunta wouldnt participate cuz sasuke would run off again -.-
 

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How would you know that? If Bunta recognizes Naruto then why not? Naruto wants to save his friend from evil there is no reason why Bunta would not participate. Even so Naruto was using Kyuubi chakra in that fight anyways so it doesn't change anything. Yeah but it was mostly gone watch anime version it dissipates as he uses his hand to pierce Naruto so it was mostly his hand.

Naruto wanted to test his own power just as much as Sasuke.. Summoning =/= you're own strength, only a feat you've accomplished..
 

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Well it wasn't added so it's not filler it was the same scene just with colors the manga doesn't have colors which is why it's hard to tell.

There was a lot of filler in that fight. Naruto's cloak isn't around him in the next panel either.
 

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Because as i said, sasuke didnt want to do that at all, otherwise he'd hunt naruto to get MS.
He found himself tempted to do so in that fight, but in the end couldnt. Partly cuz naruto showed how big of a friend he was, but mostly cuz sasuke wasnt all that about power.

He did at first but then what naruto did by scratching his headband he showed sasuke power wasn't everything to be a ninja he showed sasuke he's grown too he wanted sasuke not to look down at him.. That got Sasuke thinking after the fight which is why he didn't simply kill Naruto after the fight he realized that he was going to obtain power his own way. why would he hunt naruto? He wasn't as evil yet when he left the leaf it was until he got his power up.
 

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There was a lot of filler in that fight. Naruto's cloak isn't around him in the next panel either.
Well that wasn't one of them I'd doubt they would try to change it in the anime for that particular scene it just wouldn't make sense.. Yeah because Sasuke had already pierced him at that point.. Sasuke powers out of his CM too
 
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