Why Genjutsu Could Still Affect Naruto/Perfect Jins

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Dude the only perfect jinks in the manga: naruto and eight tails...and no other shinobi will have the same feat...anyway, eight tails broke out of tsukuyomi, deal with it...

Eight tails broke out of Sasuke's tsukuyomi which has been labeled has no match for Itachi's and as a weak genjustu
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You forget. That as a perfect Jinchuuriki Kurama can control Naruto's body with his permission. So if Naruto's mind is trapped in a Genjutsu, Kurama can control his body and release him from the Genjutsu.

Case closed.


Your only proving his point
The thread states they can still be affected by genjustu,because most people act as if they can't get put under a genjustu period
 

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I know a few latest chapters have been hard on you....so try to relax and quit naruto for some time

I liked the last few chapters, actually. Other than Sasuke wanting to be Hokage, it went pretty smoothly. I believe you should quit, since you've gotten to the point where you mention Minato in every thread.
 

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But naruto probably doesn't even need to look at his opponent to beat him if he is in KCM or BM. he can sense them :eek:

yes...but still genjutsu has a lot of flaws....itachi cant just rely on genjutsu against naruto for example or minato...so minato>itachi or naruto>itachi

OP was trying to say Genjust affects Jin's not that they could beat Naruto LMAO

Just no, eight tails already broke thru a tsukuyomi...fanboys will argue with me that sasuke's tsukuyomi is inferior but it is already stated in the manga..perfect jins are unaffected by genjutsu...besides, with naruto's thousand clones...it wouldnt be easy....

You claimed they were unaffected but you also said he broke it, You cant break what you aint affected by in the first place -_-
 

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Your right on the fact that perfect jins are not immune to genjustu period.
They do have a higher chance at breaking out of one then most people thanks to the fact one can disturb the genjustu current at any given time.

Tsukuyomi does not however automatically warp your sense of time
That ability was soley itachi's he could manipulate things while in tsukuyomi,sasuke can't

Yes, this is correct.
 

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Yup, even Naruto warned Bee
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Naruto was speaking from past experience, he still believes that gaara's defense is the best

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obviously thats not true

i also dont remember bee ever telling him about jinchuuriki's breaking out of genjutsu
 

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Maybe if you are the co writer of this manga then perfect jins can fall to genjutsu....

But so sorry you are wrong and you are not the co writer......

And BTW i think bee owing agains itachi...
 

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But naruto probably doesn't even need to look at his opponent to beat him if he is in KCM or BM. he can sense them :eek:

he's not a sensor in either of those modes he can only sense malice. I believe the reason why he sensed the fourth is because of the 9tails chakra in him similar to what happened with gold/silver bros
 

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Naruto was speaking from past experience, he still believes that gaara's defense is the best

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obviously thats not true




i also dont remember bee ever telling him about jinchuuriki's breaking out of genjutsu

but other than susano'o (which naruto had not seen up to that point) who had better defense
 

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but other than susano'o (which naruto had not seen up to that point) who had better defense

susanoo is a better defense than sand, i dont think i will ever see anyone claim otherwise but thats the point, has naruto ever seen a perfect jinchuriki get hit by tsukuyomi?

NO!

so he will of course go by what he has seen
 

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Actually tsukoyomi would affect a perfect jinchuriki but what we're forgetting is that a jinchuriki and indeed a perfect jinchuriki isn't just one person it's two if u destroy one mind you'll have to do it to the other and the probability of getting a jinchuriki and it's bijuu in tsukoyomi is zero so it still might be useless unless u can take advantage of the small window of opportunity tsukoyomi grants the user
 

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When naruto made that statement, he had no experience about the partnershaft between a host and a Bijuu when they are working together. It's also worth to notice that time inside a host doesn't pass normally. As an example, Naruto was capable to speak during a while with other host in an alternate dimension when infact only a second(or few seconds) past in the real world. Also, tsukuyomi takes an instant true, but it's a few seconds instead of one second(split of second) contrary to the popular belief.
 

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Good thread, lol @ all the fanboys disagreeing.
 

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Naruto/Perfect Jins are by no means immune to Genjutsu.

A normal genjutsu is not immediately broken from by the Tailed Beast inside a Jin. As seen in Bee vs Sasuke, it takes a few seconds that can be exploited by an opponent.

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Not to mention Tsukuyomi is impossible to break out of, since Tsukuyomi is 72 hours within MAYBE a second, probably even less. The Tailed Beast can't break you out in time because by the time half a second has already gone by, you've been stuck in the genjutsu for nearly three days.

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All of which happened, and Asuma and others had no idea any time had passed when Tsukuyomi was broken.

I made a thread about this and even when Itachi fought Bee with grow genjutsu that split second interval opened bee up for an attack that if samehadah wasnt there to save him he would have died.

Also tsukuyomi is 72 hours in an instant

instant = ftg speed
 

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So u want me to belive that these uchiha's are fast enough to kill the enemy in that 2-5 sec of time........dnt say that ur not a fanboy u dfntly are a fanboy................
 

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I made a thread about this and even when Itachi fought Bee with grow genjutsu that split second interval opened bee up for an attack that if samehadah wasnt there to save him he would have died.

Also tsukuyomi is 72 hours in an instant

instant = ftg speed
It isn't samehada who helped bee,he dodged Itachi's attack's with his own swards and hachibi helped him to break genjutsu
 

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So u want me to belive that these uchiha's are fast enough to kill the enemy in that 2-5 sec of time........dnt say that ur not a fanboy u dfntly are a fanboy................

Not a fanboy.

2-5 seconds is an eternity for shinobi. I could kill someone in 2-5 seconds.

In those 2-5 seconds the Jin is out, they can easily stab or kill them. You are just stupid if you can't see that.
 

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Just no, eight tails already broke thru a tsukuyomi...fanboys will argue with me that sasuke's tsukuyomi is inferior but it is already stated in the manga..perfect jins are unaffected by genjutsu...besides, with naruto's thousand clones...it wouldnt be easy....
Um lol sasuke tsukiyomi is no where near itachi's at that point.. An as you saw killer bee was affected by genjutsu so you fail.
You forget. That as a perfect Jinchuuriki Kurama can control Naruto's body with his permission. So if Naruto's mind is trapped in a Genjutsu, Kurama can control his body and release him from the Genjutsu.

Case closed.

Kakashi stated that itachi could have killed him in tsukiyomi so if itachi kills naruto in tsukiyomi 9 tails will die aswell.
 

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Not a fanboy.

2-5 seconds is an eternity for shinobi. I could kill someone in 2-5 seconds.

In those 2-5 seconds the Jin is out, they can easily stab or kill them. You are just stupid if you can't see that.

tel me an attack that can kill the enmy during that time ................
 
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