10 Reasons why Kishi's manga turned from worse to shit

[Sanguis]

The real issue is that after chapter 400 Kishimoto forced this new Uchiha plot down our throats and it wasn't compelling to begin with.

The Uchiha clan is not interesting or intimidating enough to drive a manga. They make shit villains because they have very shitty characterizations. Kishimoto even invented this child of prophecy thing so his main character would have some relevancy in this BS story.

Should have just been the Akatsuki vs the jinchuuriki for the majority of this manga, and Sausage's subplot being just a subplot. The big villain could have been the Uzumakis and it would have functioned just fine. Kishi really didn't plan this through

edit: Just want to add I still very much enjoy this manga. Somehow I found quite a few new things I enjoy like the SO6P.

It would of been freaking amazing if Kishi made Tobi a survivor of the Uzamaki clan and it turned out that the clan was only exterminated because they were secretly plotting against the 5 nations.

 

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another problem is kishimoto doesn't seem to want to make some good one VS one fights(unless an uchiha is a part of it),those fights are the essence of every martial art based manga,yet we saw only a few in the war arc(the kages) and the rest of the edos were ignored,and these fights were all rushed at best two chapters,he doesn't seem to like to make an effort for these fights,and that's so obvious when we saw muu literally get one-shotted.
i wished to see more of the K11 fighting edos,not currently fodderising mini juubis.(well that's what fillers are good for)

 

[Strata Uchiha]

1- There is absolute no great villain in this manga beside Orochimaru(and himself seems to have turned good).

2- Killed every villain in the manga too fast(Akatsuki) to make alliance shinobi fights zombies or white weak shits Lol

3- We're at the end of the manga and the villains are shit. Madara is pathetic, Obito is a crybaby

4- People are fighting in a war that looks more like a pic-nic(with no antagonist really struggling that much) more than anything else

5- War almost at his end, yet no relevant character died besides Neji, same Neji you barely saw during entire shippuden

6- Almost every villains always had to be tnj'd in the end Lol

7- Too much plot with jutsus coming out of nowhere without explanations

8- It's the lectors who actually create theories to try to explain things Kishi doesn't even try to explain himself. I always tried to find reasons myself so far to excuse kishi, but enough is enough

9- Everything seems improvised. That's why you see Sasuke turned from a Konoha hater(during more than 200chapters) to a Konoha-lover in one chapter. Reason why the symbolism around hawks turned to shit in one chapter without explanations

10- There is practically no intrigue in this manga anymore, rendering the manga boring. Even when there is, it's irrelevant for the manga

Why aren't you elated, stoked, amped, and excited?

I know you. I've seen you around NarutoBase.

You are Minato's number 1 fan.

Shouldn't you be the least bit joyful that Minato is back in action, busting out jutsu you didn't know he had, and is getting decent panel time?

 

[Mellanoma]

He originally wanted to keep Itachi alive but he knew the series would be over after Itachi soloed the juubi, madara, and obito 0 difficulty

 

[Bogard]

hmm Hmm. . . I kinda highly doubt that you will actually stop with Naruto, after years of following it (I guess), but still not too sure.

I don't know if I'm the only one that feels like this, cuz every Fan of Naruto I have seen starts disliking it if things don't go as wished or every time is like: "Why did that happened, I hate that?", "Why did that character died, I hate that?" and simmilar stuff.

I, myself, don't expect anything from Kishimoto. I read every chapter and except it as it is. . . except the Timeline. . . in some situations is reallty f****d up.

I'm not that type of fan that drops a manga because of something/some character particular. I judge a manga from his coherance, and sadly, this manga disappoints me chapters after chapters. I have nothing personal against Kishi or this manga, but i simply find that a lot of things don't make sense. The latest example you can find is Madara's attitude. The guy sit there, and watch without caring when his whole-life plan is about to get destroyed? Wtf!!!

Why aren't you elated, stoked, amped, and excited?

I know you. I've seen you around NarutoBase.

You are Minato's number 1 fan.

Shouldn't you be the least bit joyful that Minato is back in action, busting out jutsu you didn't know he had, and is getting decent panel time?

I don't follow the serie for just one character. I may like Minato, but if i have to chose between not seeing Minato with having a good manga, and having Minato on screen with a shit manga, i would gladly prefer the first option. Kishi didn't even bother explain the KCM Minato just received, and i doubt any explanation he could give(if he even cares) would satisfy me. Another reason that makes everything sad for me. Kakashi for example is my favourite character, but i hope he dies from Obito's hand only because i feel it's probably the only way to save this manga

 

[RufusSerano]

It would of been freaking amazing if Kishi made Tobi a survivor of the Uzamaki clan and it turned out that the clan was only exterminated because they were secretly plotting against the 5 nations.

There were many good theorys about Tobi a while ago, one more complex than another. The expectations of Tobis true identity were so huge and the result of it turned out to be so simple... predictions of Tobi = Obito were there for years...

As I said, my expectations of the manga are too high, I want it to be complex and full of these 'oh wow!' moments where things are beeing revealed that you wouldnt even have dreamed of.
But Naruto is and has always been to simple for that - sry. Kishi keeps the manga on the same level while the naruto fans grow older and finaly grow out of it.

 

[HiddenSound]

He originally wanted to keep Itachi alive but he knew the series would be over after Itachi soloed the juubi, madara, and obito 0 difficulty

Why are you guys so annoying? Honestly.

 

[CrimsonFire]

One thing I will add is that Kishitmoto waits toward the end of the manga to let Sakura and other rookies get some development. When they should had gotten development earlier in the time skip.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

He has no way of sealing them, he's not gonna be able to take them out o his own, since they'll just regenerate after every attack. That should be obvious to anyone, and yet, Madara suddenly decides to be a total asshat and sit down. He even said "I'll wait until the real one is done", hinting that he doesn't expect the Juubi to win...

Madara is sitting down because he knows there is nooo way they will defeat the juubi and soon will give up

 

[Jim Rider]

The easy way out...just negate everything and not accept any criticism when it doesn't follow your point of view...peace out

.. You posted your opinion - I posted mine.
You hate it - I'm quite enjoying it.
Thing is.. If you hate it that much why are you still here. If I hate something - I stop watching and/or reading it.
Not flaming.. just putting it out there.
and my reply to your OP was pretty much the common attitudes of NB lately.

 

[Edo Odin]

Madara is sitting down because he knows there is nooo way they will defeat the juubi and soon will give up

Yes, because they've been so unsuccessful lately...In about five seconds, Hashirama had trapped the Juubi, making it his b****, forcing it to split up into beings that even the K11 can take care of. We've still not seen any of the Edo Hokage go all out, and when they do, the Juubi won't have anything to take them out due to lack of sealing techniques. And yet, Madara is just sitting there, not giving a damn.

 

[Strata Uchiha]

I'm not that type of fan that drops a manga because of something/some character particular. I judge a manga from his coherance, and sadly, this manga disappoints me chapters after chapters. I have nothing personal against Kishi or this manga, but i simply find that a lot of things don't make sense. The latest example you can find is Madara's attitude. The guy sit there, and watch without caring when his whole-life plan is about to get destroyed? Wtf!!!

I don't follow the serie for just one character. I may like Minato, but if i have to chose between not seeing Minato with having a good manga, and having Minato on screen with a shit manga, i would gladly prefer the first option. Kishi didn't even bother explain the KCM Minato just received, and i doubt any explanation he could give(if he even cares) would satisfy me. Another reason that makes everything sad for me. Kakashi for example is my favourite character, but i hope he dies from Obito's hand only because i feel it's probably the only way to save this manga

Just convert to Bleach and be done with it already.

 

[blazekev90]

I agree 100%!!!!

It is crazy how emotionally attached I was to this series for years! I've been watching/reading since I was 16 and now I'm 22. This series has been apart of some many different thing in life, whether it was Naruto's courage, Lee's determination, Garra's horrible childhood, etc that made me relate to this show.

But the entire series has changed for the worse and I am so disappointed each week I read the latest chapter, it literally saddens me. People say "if you don't like it than stop watching" wtf this isn't something we've just started watching to pass time, we've invested time/tears and more into this series.

Kish is really making regret that I have watched this series

 

[Prince Charles]

Agreed on most of your points

 

[RufusSerano]

'convert'...

a manga is no religion, dude...

 

[Fodder#4]

Just convert to Bleach and be done with it already.

Bleach.. Has been getting better, but it's not that good of a manga. Most of the villains are on the same level of Naruto's. Other than Aizen and Gin. Gin being a good one, and Aizen being a rehash of Naraku.

And any Inuyasha fan will know that Naraku was an annoying ass. A rehashed version is even worse.

 

[Bogard]

Just convert to Bleach and be done with it already.

I tried and watched Bleach until Aizen's "death", but after that it became pathetic, so i stopped reading it. OP is awesome though

 

[HiddenSound]

Bleach.. Has been getting better, but it's not that good of a manga. Most of the villains are on the same level of Naruto's. Other than Aizen and Gin. Gin being a good one, and Aizen being a rehash of Naraku.

And any Inuyasha fan will know that Naraku was an annoying ass. A rehashed version is even worse.

A differing opinion! Can't have that!
We're no longer friends and/or allies, AncientCenturion!

Spoiler

Jk, jk, I love Aizen and Naraku, but we're still cool of course XD

 

[hyuuga teddy]

another problem is kishimoto doesn't seem to want to make some good one VS one fights(unless an uchiha is a part of it),those fights are the essence of every martial art based manga,yet we saw only a few in the war arc(the kages) and the rest of the edos were ignored,and these fights were all rushed at best two chapters,he doesn't seem to like to make an effort for these fights,and that's so obvious when we saw muu literally get one-shotted.
i wished to see more of the K11 fighting edos,not currently fodderising mini juubis.(well that's what fillers are good for)

Seems there is something we both agree on

 

[Strata Uchiha]

I tried and watched Bleach until Aizen's "death", but after that it became pathetic, so i stopped reading it. OP is awesome though

Aizen is somewhat back in the manga.

He chose not to join the current enemy Juha Bach for some reason.

However, he was mentioned in some recent flashbacks.