Why chapter 632 isn't legitamate proof that Sasuke's speed>KCM Naruto

[FlemSmack]

You can still see Naruto's clothes, which means he isn't in KCM. He used just enough Kyuubi chakra to cast Rasenshuriken.

 

[Mellanoma]

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This scan is not legitimate proof that Sasuke's faster. The reason being that it only showed their arrival. It did not show whether they started their movement simultaneously. For all we know, Naruto let Sasuke go first to cover him and then moved in. The bottom line is, we don't know, and we can't judge their speeds by that scan alone.


Here's an example of how Naruto fans feel when Sasuke uses this scan for their argument.


In the scan, you'll notice that inferno style and ransenshuriken his the clones at the same time. This means that ransenshuriken=amaterasu speed. Sakura was in danger, so there's no way he was purposely using a slower attack, so that inferno style was as fast as amaterasu.

Sasuke fans, how would you respond to this argument?


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Amaterasu and Enton are different techniques

Amaterasu is the technique where black flames spawn on the target
Enton is manipulation of the black flames

totally different things.

Speed wise Amaterasu will always be faster since it "spawns" at the location

 

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This scan is not legitimate proof that Sasuke's faster. The reason being that it only showed their arrival. It did not show whether they started their movement simultaneously. For all we know, Naruto let Sasuke go first to cover him and then moved in. The bottom line is, we don't know, and we can't judge their speeds by that scan alone.


Here's an example of how Naruto fans feel when Sasuke uses this scan for their argument.


In the scan, you'll notice that inferno style and ransenshuriken his the clones at the same time. This means that ransenshuriken=amaterasu speed. Sakura was in danger, so there's no way he was purposely using a slower attack, so that inferno style was as fast as amaterasu.

Sasuke fans, how would you respond to this argument?


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1. lol at ' naruto let sasuke get there first' then wouldnt kishi show naruto smirking or something?

2. that is not amatersu

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3. amatersu is faster

4. glad to see you at least saw that sakura was in danger, some claim that she wasnt.

even neg rep you for saying so.

but i wont say no name

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Its not so much about sasuke being faster or slower then naruto.
For sasuke fans naruto can be faster, they wont care about it. Sasuke has sharingan to make up for lack of speed.

This scan however is valuable in trashing naruto fanboys delusions such as "deflecting TBBs by raw speed" (w/e that means) or that Naruto is faster then A, or that naruto isnt even traceable for sharingan etc.
This scan simply states that naruto ints all that fast and base sasuke can beat KCM naruto in speed. Naruto still has BM, so chill. Why are u so upset about it?

This is true. Sharingan users can use their prediction abilities to go toe to toe with speed users. Itachi, Madara, and Obito are all sharingan users and can react to Naruto's speed, so that's been proven. My point is that Sasuke's physical speed is slower than KCM Naruto's.

However, Naruto is faster than A, but only in short bursts, or requires prep time or something. I'll have to make a thread theorizing on KCM speed.

Plus, I'm not upset. I don't think that it makes sense for Sasuke to be suddenly faster than KCM Naruto. I'm just showing how this one scan can't provide enough evidence to undo the evidence that we've already seen by itself. We need to see those 2 starting for a common destination at the same time, and then see who wins.

Here's what I think about sharingan vs speed. It will see where someone, no matter the speed, is headed, due to it seeing chakra flow or tensing up muscles whatever). The only way for this to be overcomed is if someone instantly get's top speed without preparing. This is something that no one so far has accomplished outside of Minato's FTG. However, I doubt the sharingan will be able to see Naruto on the way to his destination. It'll see where he'll end up, but not the detailed images of his running. That's my opinion of the sharingan vs KCM.

 

[Glovoc]

Naruto>Sasuke in speed no matter what eyes Sasuke obtains.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

This plus Amaterasu > Rasenshuirken in speed :sy:

Also Sasuke used enton

Just so you know, I don't think that Ransenshuriken is faster than amaterasu. I'm just showing you guys our perspective by using the logic Sasuke fans use to prove something that's absolutely ridiculous like Ransenshuriken being as fast as amaterasu.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

1. lol at ' naruto let sasuke get there first' then wouldnt kishi show naruto smirking or something?

2. that is not amatersu

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3. amatersu is faster

4. glad to see you at least saw that sakura was in danger, some claim that she wasnt.

even neg rep you for saying so.

but i wont say no name

1. No Kishi wouldn't> He didn't have enough panels left to do so. My point was that we don't know, or did you conveniently forget what I said before that was "for all we know" just to pretend like you have grounds to criticize me. Also, Naruto isn't that smug anymore to smirk at someone failing to reach his speed.

2.-3. That's the point. Ransenshuriken<amaterasu. I'm just showing that the logic that Sasuke fans use to "prove" that Sasuke's faster can also be used to prove something as equally ridiculous such as ransenshuriken=amaterasu. In other words, I'm showing you what you sound like to Naruto fans.

4. She was only in danger until the clones were destroyed, since there were none around her after that though. How do I know this? Take a look at the first page of the next chapter.

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Notice that there's no clones within striking distance? One last thing, don't abuse the neg rep. That's probably intended for people being jerks, not because you disagree with an opinion.

 

[Strawberry]

well what everyone needs to understand is you cannot make a rasenshuriken and speed blitz at same time... so naruto is still faster

 

[AlphaScythian]

well what everyone needs to understand is you cannot make a rasenshuriken and speed blitz at same time... so naruto is still faster

plz translate it to make sense...

 

[Omega]

Yea Its obvious that it is impossible to tell if they started at the same time. Most people with LOGIC no Sasuke has to be = or less than Naruto. Stop trying to prove stuff with things that arent definite

 

[AlphaScythian]

Yea Its obvious that it is impossible to tell if they started at the same time. Most people with LOGIC no Sasuke has to be = or less than Naruto. Stop trying to prove stuff with things that arent definite

Yes ur correct. When they both noted sakura in danger sasuke went for a cigarette and had some espresso, b4 going to the rescue...
Cuz i can imply that...

 

[Dantee]

This thread actually makes no sense whatsoever lol.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Yes ur correct. When they both noted sakura in danger sasuke went for a cigarette and had some espresso, b4 going to the rescue...
Cuz i can imply that...

Well, all the clones near Sakura were destroyed. Should I show you a panel that confirms that?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

This thread actually makes no sense whatsoever lol.

And it doesn't why? There's no evidence that they both started running at the same time.

 

[Dantee]

And it doesn't why? There's no evidence that they both started running at the same time.

The evidence is on the scan you just posted.

 

[Lilt]

Enton is NOT Amaterasu.

Enton is NOT Amaterasu.

Enton is NOT Amaterasu.

Enton is NOT Amaterasu.

Enton is NOT Amaterasu.

 

[Lilt]

Aside from that, people are going to believe what they want to believe. It's unlikely Naruto would purposefully slow down if Sakura was in danger, and the evidence does suggest that Sasuke has the edge in speed. So what? That isn't even Naruto's best chakra shroud. Sasuke could definitely have improved since facing A nearly 200 chapters ago, and even then, it's arguable that Sasuke could have dodged (since he clearly saw A before the punch landed) but put up Enton instead.

 

[Dantee]

Aside from that, people are going to believe what they want to believe. It's unlikely Naruto would purposefully slow down if Sakura was in danger, and the evidence does suggest that Sasuke has the edge in speed. So what? That isn't even Naruto's best chakra shroud. Sasuke could definitely have improved since facing A nearly 200 chapters ago, and even then, it's arguable that Sasuke could have dodged (since he clearly saw A before the punch landed) but instead put up a flame-shield.

omg an unbias opinion admitting Sasuke just might be surperior in some form of way to Naruto. Round of applause.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Aside from that, people are going to believe what they want to believe. It's unlikely Naruto would purposefully slow down if Sakura was in danger, and the evidence does suggest that Sasuke has the edge in speed. So what? That isn't even Naruto's best chakra shroud. Sasuke could definitely have improved since facing A nearly 200 chapters ago, and even then, it's arguable that Sasuke could have dodged (since he clearly saw A before the punch landed) but put up Enton instead.

Read my previous posts. I already explained what I really think about amaterasu vs ransenshuriken. Sakura wasn't in danger since the clones near her were destroyed.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

omg an unbias opinion admitting Sasuke just might be surperior in some form of way to Naruto. Round of applause.

OMG, a fanboy claiming that a guy who didn't read all my posts in this thread is unbiased. Typical.