[Theory] Hypothesizing future power-ups (NS) and Debunking the Elder-Younger Son Parallel

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Sasuke's room before leaving the village in part 1:

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See the middle portrait on the right side? It literally says "Tengu Uchi" a foreshadowing of the MS Susanoo

Now take a look at this:

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Seen here in the Fire Temple is the image of the God-King of the Tengus, Sojōbō, the Yamabushi Tengu of Mount Kurama
 

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I think that would easily be the most badass Susanoo in the series. If it's anything like that statue at all. Sasuke needs to show us Perfect Susanoo!
 

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I think that would easily be the most badass Susanoo in the series. If it's anything like that statue at all. Sasuke needs to show us Perfect Susanoo!
And imagine it with all those power ups I made up for it! All I have to say is if Sasuke gets Edo Tensei'd in the future I feel really sorry for the people he's going up against! XD
 

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And imagine it with all those power ups I made up for it! All I have to say is if Sasuke gets Edo Tensei'd in the future I feel really sorry for the people he's going up against! XD
HAHA! Can you imagine Sasuke flying with his massive Susanoo in the air and shooting a Tsunami of Amaterasu or a Lightning Destruction?

Next thing you see on the base "Sasuke Solo's"!
 

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Question for anyone who cares: With the hypothesized powers for Naruto, how would Naruto apply them or how would you want him to apply them?

Answer this and then I'll give my opinion (It will be a huge response though).
 

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Question for anyone who cares: With the hypothesized powers for Naruto, how would Naruto apply them or how would you want him to apply them?

Answer this and then I'll give my opinion (It will be a huge response though).
Here is what I think Naruto will be able to do:

Bijuu Sage Mode Naruto can:

be able to have his Chakra Arms use Frog Katas

create bigger Bijuu Dama Rasengans

be nearly unstoppable in a Taijutsu battle

create a Rasengan that dwarfs the size of any of the other Rasengans he ever made by taking in Natural Energy from the environment and adding it to his Rasengan ( Spirit Bomb? )

create massive Fuuton: Rasen Shurikens enhanced with Natural Energy, which will give it massive destructive properties

The ability to stay in Bijuu Sage Mode for a long period of time. Why?
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His Chakra seems to have a big effect on the environment around him, when he gains the Yin chakra he will most likely be able to continuously take in Natural Energy because of balance between Yin, Yang, and Natural Energy
And the bond between him and Kurama should be strengthened to a huge amount as well.

The Ability to create Bijuu Damas that are comparable to the Juubi's
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Rinnegan Bijuu Sage Mode, ( or to make it short ) Rikudo Mode Naruto:

Rikudo Mode Naruto can:

create Bijuu Damas in his hands and fire them when used in conjunction with Shinra Tensei

levitate and fly

enhance the 6 Paths of Pain with Natural Energy and Bijuu Chakra

Just to name a few
 

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Nice reply :)

Alright here I will expound upon my assertions. Naruto lacks variety in his arsenal. Having the Rinnegan mitigates that.

But first I will talk about BM Sage Mode, which will presumably come first.

BM Sage Mode:

Taught and learned by the toads, the advantages afforded to those who study senjutsu from the toads include:

The user's physical strength, speed, stamina, reflexes, perception and durability dramatically increase.
The user's ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu become more powerful.
The user can harness the natural energy surrounding them, turning it into an extension of their body, which increases the reach of their attacks.
The user gains the ability to sense chakra around them.

As stated above (From the Wikia) basically Naruto becomes a lot more powerful. He becomes an amazing sensor, his ninjutsu techniques are increased, he's faster and he's a Taijutsu monster. Everything around him is an extension of himself because of the nature chakra. But the biggest asset here is; The amplification of his techniques. For us to know this, we need to analyze BM as well.

BM Mode:
"While in this form, Naruto's speed and strength are enhanced greatly to such an extent that he was able to deflect five Tailed Beast Balls by simply moving past them.[59] With the help of a shadow clone, he could even move fast enough to two different locations of a battlefield, while at the same time, destroying Madara Uchiha's wooden dragon in the process.[60][61] He is also capable of using the Rasengan and the Super Mini-Tailed Beast Ball without the aid of his shadow clones,[62][63] as well as create two Rasenshuriken in both of his hands at the same time.[64]"

As stated here, he becomes faster, stronger AND he can use Rasengan AND Rasenshuriken with one hand (Even doing a double RasenShurkien). What does this mean? Sage Mode's multipliers will apply to the massive boost BM gives.

So hypothetically, a half Kurama is able to equal 6 other TBB's. A full Kurama in theory should be able to overpower them. NOW, add in the Sage Mode amplifier... That is practically on Juubi scale.

So in hindsight this mode gives him:

- Immense reflexes (Due to Sage Mode)
- Master Sensory (Sage Mode+ Bijuu Mode)
- A TBB on the Juubi's scale (Not quite, but the multipliers signify something in the vicinity of such)
- Frog Kata which aids in making him a Taijutsu monster
- Ability to use RasenShuriken with one hand, and use two at once.

Boss! But the problem is... SM Hashirama stomps because of Mokuton suppression (Established in the OP)

In comes Rikudou Mode Naruto!

Add the Rinnegan on to the aforementioned form.

What this allows Naruto to do: Let's him use all 5 Elements and access to the hidden Sixth Element, Yin-Yang Release (Which will be needed to split the Juubi), lets him get people in close to attack them (Deva Path), lets him guard his blind spot with multiple arms (Asura), guard against large scale techniques (Preta) etc...

Basically it allows Naruto to be A HELL of a lot more versatile than before.

Because of Naruto's inherent reserves+BM, he could theoretically make a Chibaku Tensei on the scale of the Moon like the Sage, his Shinra's Tensei's would be larger than Nagato's (Because of more chakra output) and his Chou Shinra tensei could decimate more than just the Leaf Village. Not to mention Naruto can now utilize different chakra natures which would help in different situations AND he can make a Rasengan variant for each chakra nature.
 

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Nice reply :)

Alright here I will expound upon my assertions. Naruto lacks variety in his arsenal. Having the Rinnegan mitigates that.

But first I will talk about BM Sage Mode, which will presumably come first.

BM Sage Mode:

Taught and learned by the toads, the advantages afforded to those who study senjutsu from the toads include:

The user's physical strength, speed, stamina, reflexes, perception and durability dramatically increase.
The user's ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu become more powerful.
The user can harness the natural energy surrounding them, turning it into an extension of their body, which increases the reach of their attacks.
The user gains the ability to sense chakra around them.

As stated above (From the Wikia) basically Naruto becomes a lot more powerful. He becomes an amazing sensor, his ninjutsu techniques are increased, he's faster and he's a Taijutsu monster. Everything around him is an extension of himself because of the nature chakra. But the biggest asset here is; The amplification of his techniques. For us to know this, we need to analyze BM as well.

BM Mode:
"While in this form, Naruto's speed and strength are enhanced greatly to such an extent that he was able to deflect five Tailed Beast Balls by simply moving past them.[59] With the help of a shadow clone, he could even move fast enough to two different locations of a battlefield, while at the same time, destroying Madara Uchiha's wooden dragon in the process.[60][61] He is also capable of using the Rasengan and the Super Mini-Tailed Beast Ball without the aid of his shadow clones,[62][63] as well as create two Rasenshuriken in both of his hands at the same time.[64]"

As stated here, he becomes faster, stronger AND he can use Rasengan AND Rasenshuriken with one hand (Even doing a double RasenShurkien). What does this mean? Sage Mode's multipliers will apply to the massive boost BM gives.

So hypothetically, a half Kurama is able to equal 6 other TBB's. A full Kurama in theory should be able to overpower them. NOW, add in the Sage Mode amplifier... That is practically on Juubi scale.

So in hindsight this mode gives him:

- Immense reflexes (Due to Sage Mode)
- Master Sensory (Sage Mode+ Bijuu Mode)
- A TBB on the Juubi's scale (Not quite, but the multipliers signify something in the vicinity of such)
- Frog Kata which aids in making him a Taijutsu monster
- Ability to use RasenShuriken with one hand, and use two at once.

Boss! But the problem is... SM Hashirama stomps because of Mokuton suppression (Established in the OP)

In comes Rikudou Mode Naruto!

Add the Rinnegan on to the aforementioned form.

What this allows Naruto to do: Let's him use all 5 Elements and access to the hidden Sixth Element, Yin-Yang Release (Which will be needed to split the Juubi), lets him get people in close to attack them (Deva Path), lets him guard his blind spot with multiple arms (Asura), guard against large scale techniques (Preta) etc...

Basically it allows Naruto to be A HELL of a lot more versatile than before.

Because of Naruto's inherent reserves+BM, he could theoretically make a Chibaku Tensei on the scale of the Moon like the Sage, his Shinra's Tensei's would be larger than Nagato's (Because of more chakra output) and his Chou Shinra tensei could decimate more than just the Leaf Village. Not to mention Naruto can now utilize different chakra natures which would help in different situations AND he can make a Rasengan variant for each chakra nature.
This^, Naruto is in desperate need for more variety in his abilities.
 

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Just find where it says on the bottom of someone's post that says " reply " " Reply With Quote " and look straight left from that until you find a triangle with an exclamation mark and a six pointed star. Click on that six pointed star and then click on " I approve " and click " Add to Reputation " to give him positive rep. This is a really good theory, and he deserves all the rep he can get ( even though you aren't ranked high enough to give rep, you will only be able to give neutral rep ).
Thnx for the tip, I am a big fan of Naruto since the beginning but not a big fan of forums, anyways Ill try to post a little bit more to get some rep to give away :p
 

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Lmao this thread is full of sooooo much wrong info

Let's get some facts straight
•The riduoku sannin isn't uzimaki period.
•The riduoku sannin had the rinnegan before sealing the juubi
•Doesn't matter what eyes he has using inazagi or inazami takes away the permanently its the cost of the jutsu period
•Sasuke is clearly not the embodiment of two separate beings
*Rikudou Sennin champ.

Also, you're right. He's not Uzimaki. Uzumaki though. It sure seems that way.

Besides from being a grammar nazi, I'd also like to see your proff. Like, where ever it said and Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan would go blink using Izanagi or Izanami. You have no proof, where as the word ETERNAL is some pretty good proof that he wouldn't go blind.

You have no evidence or facts AT ALL. You're either trolling or just not using your brain.
 
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*Rikudou Sennin champ.

Also, you're right. He's not Uzimaki. Uzumaki though. It sure seems that way.

Besides from being a grammar nazi, I'd also like to see your proff. Like, where ever it said and Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan would go blink using Izanagi or Izanami. You have no proof, where as the word ETERNAL is some pretty good proof that he wouldn't go blind.

You have no evidence or facts AT ALL. You're either trolling or just not using your brain.
I just gained so much respect for you my friend. I will most certainly rep you.
 

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It was good until you said tv couldn't fracture susanoo
You mean TBB? Well I'm basing it off of Madara's Susanoo. He was able to tank Kurama's Full TBB (When Hashirama threw it back) with his PS and with almost no damage whatsoever. I'll post the link soon.

But thanks for the good hearted comment.
 
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