[VS] Obito vs Nagato (NO 6POP)

[Aggregator]

Obito vs Nagato. No six paths of pain for either of them. Who'd win?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Nagato.

Obito only manifested Human Path, as far as I recall.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Obito would win

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito wins.

-Still has the Gedo.
-Still has Mokuton and Auto Healing.
-Still has Genjutsu that enslaved Yagura and killed Konan.
-Nagato still can't touch him.
-Nagato either gets Soul Ripped or warped during his 5 second limit.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Nagato can also summon the Gedo, so it should be taken out of the fight.

Mokuton is neat but gets countered by Asura. Steel > Wood.

That genjutsu has no real feats since we have no clue what it actually does.

Nagato can fly.

Soul Ripped means making himself material so Nagato can use Human Path on him, too.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nagato can also summon the Gedo, so it should be taken out of the fight.

Mokuton is neat but gets countered by Asura. Steel > Wood.

That genjutsu has no real feats since we have no clue what it actually does.

Nagato can fly.

Soul Ripped means making himself material so Nagato can use Human Path on him, too.

Obito has better control of it as he has Senju/Uchiha's power while Nagato does not, it shouldn't be taken out, it should be given to the guy who has better control and better feats with it.

Get out of here if your reasoning for Asura countering Mokuton is that steel>wood.

Something like this during Nagato's interval will rape him.

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Not to mention Asura doesn't create armor to cover his body with, if Obito gets close during his interval all he has to do is stab him with a Mokuton branch.

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And then activate it.

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Still has his regular Sharingan Genjutsu, which is more than enough to stun Nagato allowing Obito to finish him.

And if he flies up then he can't do anything to Obito. Well, its not like he could even hit him on the ground due to Kamui.

If Obito grabs him and rips out his soul, there will be no opportunity for him to grab Obito and rip out his soul as his soul is getting ripped out. Not to mention he could always cancel Human Path, go intangible and then touch Nagato and warp him anyways.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Obito has better control of it as he has Senju/Uchiha's power while Nagato does not, it shouldn't be taken out, it should be given to the guy who has better control and better feats with it.

Well, Nagato killed dozens of ninja with it and would have killed Hanzo, too. Let's also not forget that the Mazou having the load of chakra in it that it has is the work of Nagato's Akatsuki, whereas Obito never sealed any Bijuu inside it.

Get out of here if your reasoning for Asura countering Mokuton is that steel>wood.

It is, though. Not to mention, to use Mokuton Obito has to become solid and if he does that he gets Shinra Tensei'd.

Still has his regular Sharingan Genjutsu, which is more than enough to stun Nagato allowing Obito to finish him.

No proof of sharingan genjutsu working on the Rinnegan. If it was true, Itachi would have used Tsukuyomi on Nagato instead of Amaterasu or would have used Tsukuyomi to cancel Chibaku Tensei.

nd if he flies up then he can't do anything to Obito.

Asura Path rocket spam.

If Obito grabs him

How will Obito grab him when Nagato can extend metallic limbs out of him? Obito will have to phase through them and will be unable to grab Nagato.

Animal Path summons would also be a mess to fight for Obito, who would be forced to waste his Kamui to protect himself from the massive attacks of Nagato's summons.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well, Nagato killed dozens of ninja with it and would have killed Hanzo, too. Let's also not forget that the Mazou having the load of chakra in it that it has is the work of Nagato's Akatsuki, whereas Obito never sealed any Bijuu inside it.

And it cost him so much chakra (and probably some other things) that he became emaciated. So what if its the work of Nagato's Akatsuki? If Obito can use it better and has better control (which he does) then logically it goes to the one with the superior control.

It is, though. Not to mention, to use Mokuton Obito has to become solid and if he does that he gets Shinra Tensei'd.

If Obito uses the large Mokuton construct he used against those Kiri Nin his options would be to hit Obito with Shinra Tensei or deflect the Mokuton coming at him with Shinra Tensei.

If he chooses option A the Mokuton kills him. If he chooses option B, Obito can teleport to him and suck him in.

No proof of sharingan genjutsu working on the Rinnegan. If it was true, Itachi would have used Tsukuyomi on Nagato instead of Amaterasu or would have used Tsukuyomi to cancel Chibaku Tensei.

There is no reason why Sharingan Genjutsu wouldn't work nor was there anything in this manga that would lead me to believe it wouldn't work. By your terrible logic, since Nagato chose to use Shinra Tensei on Amaterasu, he can't absorb it.

Asura Path rocket spam.

Against a guy who can become intangible via Kamui?

How will Obito grab him when Nagato can extend metallic limbs out of him? Obito will have to phase through them and will be unable to grab Nagato.

The metallic limbs are still attached to Nagato's body, more like they are part of Nagato's body so if he touches those Nagato gets warped either way.

Animal Path summons would also be a mess to fight for Obito, who would be forced to waste his Kamui to protect himself from the massive attacks of Nagato's summons.

Gedo Mazo fodderizes his summons. Their massive attacks are melee attacks anyway, not enough to trouble Obito, he can simple phase right through them or skewer their eyeballs with a bunch of Kunai propelled via Kamui.

They might also be bigger than regular Kunai but that may just be me.

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[Zexion~]

Does Nagato himself have that 5 second limit .. was that not only for pain?

 

[Shura]

Obito wins this.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Nagato he has more rinnegan tech

 

[KidGamer65]

Does Nagato himself have that 5 second limit .. was that not only for pain?

It was never said that Nagato didn't have a 5 second limit for ST and BT.

Nagato he has more rinnegan tech

Poor logic, Obito doesn't need the Rinnegan techs to beat Nagato anyway.

 

[Edo Odin]

Obito has this one, Nagato's attacks would be ineffective against his Kamui, and he doesn't have enough to defend against Obito's attacks for too long.

Obito wins.

-Still has the Gedo.
-Still has Mokuton and Auto Healing.
-Still has Genjutsu that enslaved Yagura and killed Konan.
-Nagato still can't touch him.
-Nagato either gets Soul Ripped or warped during his 5 second limit.

True, aside from the part with the Gedō Mazō. While Nagato's control over it may not be as great as Obito's, he does still possess the Rinnegan, the key to summoning the Gedō Mazō, meaning that while he may not be able to overpower Obito's control over it, he can desummon it at his will, since it is still bound to him also.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito has this one, Nagato's attacks would be ineffective against his Kamui, and he doesn't have enough to defend against Obito's attacks for too long.
True, aside from the part with the Gedō Mazō. While Nagato's control over it may not be as great as Obito's, he does still possess the Rinnegan, the key to summoning the Gedō Mazō, meaning that while he may not be able to overpower Obito's control over it, he can desummon it at his will, since it is still bound to him also.

Though Obito also possess the Rinnegan, so he could always summon it back, and if Nagato wanted to desummon the Mazo while its under Obito's control, wouldn't he have to be able to take control of it first? Which he can't do since his control is inferior.

 

[Edo Odin]

Though Obito also possess the Rinnegan, so he could always summon it back, and if Nagato wanted to desummon the Mazo while its under Obito's control, wouldn't he have to be able to take control of it first? Which he can't do since his control is inferior.

That shouldn't be necessary. Obito's superior control over the Mazō had nothing to do with the Kutchiyose no Jutsu itself, and therefore shouldn't prevent Nagato from desummoning it. Summoning it back would only result in Nagato desummoning it again, and would serve no other purpose than wasting Chakra on both sides.

It's not like Obito needs the Gedō to win this match either way.