New Gen Sannin.. Missing a member? Kakashi's True Pupil

[Sephiron]

The new trio aka New Gen Sannin missing a member.. or should I say, missing a disciple? By this I am intending to elaborate on how the Sakura and Naruto have embodied their predecessors (Tsunade and J-Man), however Sasuke has not embodied Oro, or should I say, no longer does.

I don't feel there is a need for a long drawn out explanation on how Sak and Nar have taken after their masters' techniques and ideologies, however I will give a few examples.

First Naruto

1. Rasengan aka Naruto's "Right hand" (because everytime you look, it's there...) was taught to him by his master J-Man which was one of his signature justu.
2. Toad Summoning which Naruto also mastered in time and the main reason why J-Man was known as the Toad Hermit
3. Toad Sage Mode/ Frog Kata was also learned by Naruto, unfortunately he wasn't alive to assist him first hand, It another reason why Jiriah is trademarked as Toad Hermit.

Naruto also obtained much of his morality and ideology "A world where everyone can understand one another" from the Toad Sannin, if you don't know, read the end of Pain Invasion Arc. Nuff Said.

After seeing Naruto perform these Justu and want everyone to understand each other, you can understand that Naruto has embodied much of his master's legacy.

Now Sakura

1. Medical.. She pretty much has become parallel to her master Tsunade in this category considering that's her master's trademark skill as well.
2. Chakra Enhanced Strength, is the second way to recognize Tsunade and her pupil Sakura. And I think has become a key trademark skill.
3. This probably applies to Medical, however the Diamond justu on their forehead.. yeah... definitely a Teacher-Student relationship.

Finally Sasuke
1. Snakes are the signature summoning and moveset of Orochimaru. Constantly summoning snakes in a diverse way to benefit him. Sasuke formerly had this ability however he doesn't any longer..
2. Curse Mark/ Sage Chakra.. Hopefully we all know that Oro studied Sage mode but his hosts bodies were unable to with stand the natural chakra.. and Curse Mark was a simple implication of Sage chakra (Jugo's cells, mixed with Oro's sage chakra to form curse mark transformations/ power ups). Sasuke no longer has this either..
3. Sword of Kusanagi is supposedly a legendary blade in NV, and Sasuke claimed early in the series that his sword is a Kusanagi like Oro's, however this I believe is false, considering it has none of the abilities that Oro's has; can cut through nearly anything, levitation at users command, and turned into a snake one time I believe, to return to Oro.


Well as far as signature skills, ideology, and appearance is concerned.. Sasuke doesn't embody Oro much besides the purple belt around his waist. Not to say sasuke hasn't learned anything from Oro, because he has learned a great deal from him, including kenjustu and resistance to poisons as well as a variety of other skills... But none of these skills are trademark of his teacher Oro.

In fact, Sasuke has retained more of a bond between himself and Kakashi than Oro- his power seeking master for 3 years. Using a variety of Kakashi's intial signature Justu Chidori/Lightning Blade, in several ways Sasuke uses shape manipulation to turn chidori into a makeshift weapon for nearly any situation. And although Sasuke is an Uchiha and it is his birth right to use his Sharingan, Kakashi his former teacher also still uses Sharingan and at this point both have MS. That's already more in common than Sasuke has with Oro in terms of Signature skills. Heck, Kakashi was known as "Kakashi of the Sharingan" and "The Copy Ninja" because of his sharingan usage.

But what do you think? Is Sasuke.. Oro reincarnate (The New Oro), or more so Kakashi's pupil? Is this more of Team 7 Reborn or The New Gen Sannin?

IMO Sasuke is the only one of the 3 to walk his own path, outside of their Master's goals and wishes.

 

[Deadai]

Yeah, sounds about right to me

 

[FourthLegacy]

Sasuke adapted his kenjutsu from Orochimaru.
Don't forget, Orochimaru taught him Shuriken jutsus, more adaptations of Chidori and simple fighting.

 

[Sephiron]

Sasuke adapted his kenjutsu from Orochimaru.
Don't forget, Orochimaru taught him Shuriken jutsus, more adaptations of Chidori and simple fighting.

Yeah I know.. and I mentioned that sorta.. However shiriken justu and chidori variations aren't what Oro's known for... Kenjustu possibly however, I wouldn't say that when people look at Oro they think about his sword first. It's moreso how the hell are they going to dodge all of his snakes

 

[insid3rkil3r]

Sasuke adapted his kenjutsu from Orochimaru.
Don't forget, Orochimaru taught him Shuriken jutsus, more adaptations of Chidori and simple fighting.

Shuriken jutsu? Im not sure where you got that (not saying you're wrong) but i dont remember seeing such thing.

As for the chidori adaptations, it was Sasuke himself apparently who perfected them as when Sasuke first used his chidori variation on him, Oro he was wondering what the hell was that technique and who was behind the door using it.

I'd Oro taught him things on snakes more than anything else, like summoning Manda, and perhaps helped him get better in Genjutsu as Sasuke was mediocre in genjutsu, and got quite a boost in the databook 3, and after all, Oro is a very skilled genjutsu user.



As for the topic, i agree that Sasuke doesnt look much like Oro as he doesnt use his arsenal anymore, but he still has his attitude. He is, like Oro, a little bit detached, and remains 'the' natural genius of the group like Oro was with Jiraiya and Tsunade.

 

[0jordinio0]

Sasuke adapted his kenjutsu from Orochimaru.
Don't forget, Orochimaru taught him Shuriken jutsus, more adaptations of Chidori and simple fighting.

I'm sorry, what? No mate. Orochimaru couldn't teach Sasuke how to use all of his Chidori jutsu, because he doesn't even know Chidori.

It's more likely that Orochimaru trained him in his Raiton affinity and then Sasuke created those Jutsu himself.

 

[Sephiron]

Shuriken jutsu? Im not sure where you got that (not saying you're wrong) but i dont remember seeing such thing.

As for the chidori adaptations, it was Sasuke himself apparently as when Sasuke first used his chidori variation on Oro he was wondering what the hell was that technique and who was behind the door using it.

I'd Oro taught him things on snakes more than anything else, like summoning Manda, and perhaps helped him get better in Genjutsu as Sasuke was mediocre in genjutsu, and got quite a boost in the databook, and after all, Oro is a very skilled genjutsu user.



As for the topic, i agree that Sasuke doesnt look much like Oro as he doesnt use his arsenal anymore, but he still has his attitude. He is, like Oro, a little bit detached, and remains 'the' natural genius of the group like Oro was with Jiraiya and Tsunade.

Nice catch.. You're right.. But i'd only say that appeals to the Sasuke during his revenge days in Part 1 and Part 2.. however during the blissful times he was cool and modest, much like Kakashi.. even now in the manga.. his cool and modest persona is beginning to rise again

 

[The Paradox]

Oro has a very different teaching style considering how he is very different himself. Oro uses a sword, Sasuke took up the sword. Oro summons Manda, Sasuke learned to summon him as well.

Sasuke learned more than any other student of Oro's because he didn't try to be him, Oro even stated that a few chapters ago.

 

[Sephiron]

I'm sorry, what? No mate. Orochimaru couldn't teach Sasuke how to use all of his Chidori jutsu, because he doesn't even know Chidori.

It's more likely that Orochimaru trained him in his Raiton affinity and then Sasuke created those Jutsu himself.

Agreed.. although I doubt Oro's affinity is Raiton.. he could still help guide sasuke in the right direction.. justu wise lol

 

[FourthLegacy]

Yeah I know.. and I mentioned that sorta.. However shiriken justu and chidori variations aren't what Oro's known for... Kenjustu possibly however, I wouldn't say that when people look at Oro they think about his sword first. It's moreso how the hell are they going to dodge all of his snakes

I see what you mean, but Orochimaru defiitely trained Sasuke well.

 

[Trilla]

The new trio aka New Gen Sannin missing a member.. or should I say, missing a disciple? By this I am intending to elaborate on how the Sakura and Naruto have embodied their predecessors (Tsunade and J-Man), however Sasuke has not embodied Oro, or should I say, no longer does.

I don't feel there is a need for a long drawn out explanation on how Sak and Nar have taken after their masters' techniques and ideologies, however I will give a few examples.

First Naruto

1. Rasengan aka Naruto's "Right hand" (because everytime you look, it's there...) was taught to him by his master J-Man which was one of his signature justu.
2. Toad Summoning which Naruto also mastered in time and the main reason why J-Man was known as the Toad Hermit
3. Toad Sage Mode/ Frog Kata was also learned by Naruto, unfortunately he wasn't alive to assist him first hand, It another reason why Jiriah is trademarked as Toad Hermit.

Naruto also obtained much of his morality and ideology "A world where everyone can understand one another" from the Toad Sannin, if you don't know, read the end of Pain Invasion Arc. Nuff Said.

After seeing Naruto perform these Justu and want everyone to understand each other, you can understand that Naruto has embodied much of his master's legacy.

Now Sakura

1. Medical.. She pretty much has become parallel to her master Tsunade in this category considering that's her master's trademark skill as well.
2. Chakra Enhanced Strength, is the second way to recognize Tsunade and her pupil Sakura. And I think has become a key trademark skill.
3. This probably applies to Medical, however the Diamond justu on their forehead.. yeah... definitely a Teacher-Student relationship.

Finally Sasuke
1. Snakes are the signature summoning and moveset of Orochimaru. Constantly summoning snakes in a diverse way to benefit him. Sasuke formerly had this ability however he doesn't any longer..
2. Curse Mark/ Sage Chakra.. Hopefully we all know that Oro studied Sage mode but his hosts bodies were unable to with stand the natural chakra.. and Curse Mark was a simple implication of Sage chakra (Jugo's cells, mixed with Oro's sage chakra to form curse mark transformations/ power ups). Sasuke no longer has this either..
3. Sword of Kusanagi is supposedly a legendary blade in NV, and Sasuke claimed early in the series that his sword is a Kusanagi like Oro's, however this I believe is false, considering it has none of the abilities that Oro's has; can cut through nearly anything, levitation at users command, and turned into a snake one time I believe, to return to Oro.


Well as far as signature skills, ideology, and appearance is concerned.. Sasuke doesn't embody Oro much besides the purple belt around his waist. Not to say sasuke hasn't learned anything from Oro, because he has learned a great deal from him, including kenjustu and resistance to poisons as well as a variety of other skills... But none of these skills are trademark of his teacher Oro.

In fact, Sasuke has retained more of a bond between himself and Kakashi than Oro- his power seeking master for 3 years. Using a variety of Kakashi's intial signature Justu Chidori/Lightning Blade, in several ways Sasuke uses shape manipulation to turn chidori into a makeshift weapon for nearly any situation. And although Sasuke is an Uchiha and it is his birth right to use his Sharingan, Kakashi his former teacher also still uses Sharingan and at this point both have MS. That's already more in common than Sasuke has with Oro in terms of Signature skills. Heck, Kakashi was known as "Kakashi of the Sharingan" and "The Copy Ninja" because of his sharingan usage.

But what do you think? Is Sasuke.. Oro reincarnate (The New Oro), or more so Kakashi's pupil? Is this more of Team 7 Reborn or The New Gen Sannin?

IMO Sasuke is the only one of the 3 to walk his own path, outside of their Master's goals and wishes.

Seeing it like that makes it seem as though Sasuke is the only new sage to come up, but really he embodies his older brother nd kakashi so basically the will of fire

 

[FourthLegacy]

I'm sorry, what? No mate. Orochimaru couldn't teach Sasuke how to use all of his Chidori jutsu, because he doesn't even know Chidori.

It's more likely that Orochimaru trained him in his Raiton affinity and then Sasuke created those Jutsu himself.

Stuff like how to make chakra condense and form into a sword that kind of stuff.

 

[Sephiron]

Oro has a very different teaching style considering how he is very different himself. Oro uses a sword, Sasuke took up the sword. Oro summons Manda, Sasuke learned to summon him as well.

Sasuke learned more than any other student of Oro's because he didn't try to be him, Oro even stated that a few chapters ago.

Oro was definitely a good teacher in his own way.. but does Sasuke being different embody Oro's ideology more strongly than the Signature skills he's learned from Kakashi?

 

[Sephiron]

Seeing it like that makes it seem as though Sasuke is the only new sage to come up, but really he embodies his older brother nd kakashi so basically the will of fire

Sorry, But it's true.. most of Naruto's and Sakura's Justu and techs involve completing a justu that wasn't completed by a predecessor i.e. Rasenshirken (Minato never added an element to his incomplete rasengan) or that Diamond Justu on Tsu and Sak's head (Tsu never had enough chakra control I believe to use it's full power.. I may be wrong about this 1)

 

[Exjoey]

I think Sasuke's SG become more powerful because of Oro. Uchiha family SG were become more powerful as their hated grow. Oro make Sasuke to grow more hated and have no mercy by saying WORDS. That's why he become stronger.

 

[Sephiron]

I think Sasuke's SG become more powerful because of Oro. Uchiha family SG were become more powerful as their hated grow. Oro make Sasuke to grow more hated and have no mercy by saying WORDS. That's why he become stronger.

I understand what you're saying, however this topic isn't necessarily about who made Sasuke stronger.. it's more so comparing Sasuke to his previous mentors to understand who does he embody more, even though it's clear he walks his own path

 

[Untung]

Sasuke learn how to rebird from oro, manga proof when sasuke vs itachi ( when sasuke hit by amaterasu... )

 

[Sephiron]

Sasuke learn how to rebird from oro, manga proof when sasuke vs itachi ( when sasuke hit by amaterasu... )

That was a justu he acquired after absorbing Oro.. he never actually learned it

 

[TheSyren]

Well, if this is about who waled their own path.... Sasuke is very similiar to Oro. He did whatever it took to become stronger. He went his own path, betrayed his friends and master, and did it all because he wanted to do something. Oro did the same thing, because he wanted to achieve something. But after that, they are different. But, to say that those three are the new sannin, would be an understatement really. Naruto and Sasuke have surpassed their masters, and I guess I will admit Sakura did too. They will probably get different titles instead.

 

[vasu 32]

u r wrong.
its kind of reverse thing,let me explain-
naruto-he got taught basics and his signature tech. From jiraya,but it was kakashi who enhanced him and taught him advanced tech.
sasuke-he was taught basics and his sig. tech. by kakashi but oro enhanced him.

they both use same tech.,summoning and other tech. of all their masters and not just one.
they don't inherit their masters will entirely,but a lot people which in result resulted them to create their own free new will.
these people helped them-
naruto-haku,kakashi,jiraya,itachi,nagato,bee,yamato,sasuke.

sasuke-kakashi,orochimaru,itachi,kabuto,hashirama,tobirama,hiruzen,minato,naruto.
these people's lesson,experience and life help them to follow there own free will and follow it.

and for sannin,it means three.the title means 3 person team,whom no one can defeat in a way.that they r.