Minato - previous jinchuuriki?

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I've been recently thinking about the whole Minato-KCM thing in the manga, trying to collect oll the pieces of the puzzle, and I've come to some interesting conclusions.

1) When Naruto first entered his Bijuu Mode and recieved the chakra cloak, Kakashi thought it was Minato before him, looking from the back. Sure it can be considered as some of metaphor, but think about it: Kishi likes to make such a twists, making us think that the obviouse has something comprehanded under the surface (remember the entire Tobi is Izuna, Kagami, Madara or whoever while it was obviouse from his first appearance that it is Obito.

2) His nickname was Yellow Flash. And his hair is blonde, as well as Naruto's. If he's as fast as flash, in his usual outfit the flash would look anything but yellow, while we know how Naruto (and obviousely Minato) looks while using Shunshin no jutsu in KCM

3) He's recieved the half of Kurama's chakra right before he's died, and he's come on the battlefield almost at the time he was ressurrected. Without a doubt, he's smart and all, but isn't it strange he can so easy enter KCM? Like he did this a dozen of times? Furthermore, none of Edo Kages was surprised of him using KCM, as well as other shinobi (except the younger generation) who could've possibly meet him alive.

4) We all know it requires some special training to enter KCM and it has to be don in a special place, but Killer Bee stated once to Naruto: "Once you capture the chakra of Kyuubi, it's yours forever".

5) Kyuubi hated Minato, he really did. And I may be wrong, but he hates his hosts mostly (and Madara ofc).

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6)Also Edo Tensei ressurrects one in their prime form, when the were the most powerful in their lifespan.l

So, what I'm thinking about: what if Minato was at some point junchuuriki of Kurama? There were some fight for Kyuubi before the first meeting of A with Minato, and it's stated that Minato somehow prevented Kumo recieving Kyuubi. Could it be in some time before Kushina, or he could've sealed it in himself just for some time? What do you think?

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I bet you've only read the name of this thread and posted this crap? :) Boring.

nope i read it :bouncy:

and minato never prevented kumo receiving kyuuubi.:hint:
 
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I bet you've only read the name of this thread and posted this crap? :) Boring.

How unfair. He gave a perfect explanation. You're going off on this absurd tangent because Minato went into KCM with ease, and you can't seem to figure out why. Well he just stated why. =D
 

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As mentioned by others and in your own post, Bee told Naruto that the Kyuubi chakra was his forever once he took it from Kurama.

Minato already took it from Kurama.

So now he can easily access it from the seal he formed on his stomach (looks like the same one Naruto has).

So, yes, he was a psuedo-jinchuriki moments before he died.
 
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I've been recently thinking about the whole Minato-KCM thing in the manga, trying to collect oll the pieces of the puzzle, and I've come to some interesting conclusions.

1) When Naruto first entered his Bijuu Mode and recieved the chakra cloak, Kakashi thought it was Minato before him, looking from the back. Sure it can be considered as some of metaphor, but think about it: Kishi likes to make such a twists, making us think that the obviouse has something comprehanded under the surface (remember the entire Tobi is Izuna, Kagami, Madara or whoever while it was obviouse from his first appearance that it is Obito.

2) His nickname was Yellow Flash. And his hair is blonde, as well as Naruto's. If he's as fast as flash, in his usual outfit the flash would look anything but yellow, while we know how Naruto (and obviousely Minato) looks while using Shunshin no jutsu in KCM

3) He's recieved the half of Kurama's chakra right before he's died, and he's come on the battlefield almost at the time he was ressurrected. Without a doubt, he's smart and all, but isn't it strange he can so easy enter KCM? Like he did this a dozen of times? Furthermore, none of Edo Kages was surprised of him using KCM, as well as other shinobi (except the younger generation) who could've possibly meet him alive.

4) We all know it requires some special training to enter KCM and it has to be don in a special place, but Killer Bee stated once to Naruto: "Once you capture the chakra of Kyuubi, it's yours forever".

5) Kyuubi hated Minato, he really did. And I may be wrong, but he hates his hosts mostly (and Madara ofc).

EDIT!
6)Also Edo Tensei ressurrects one in their prime form, when the were the most powerful in their lifespan.l

So, what I'm thinking about: what if Minato was at some point junchuuriki of Kurama? There were some fight for Kyuubi before the first meeting of A with Minato, and it's stated that Minato somehow prevented Kumo recieving Kyuubi. Could it be in some time before Kushina, or he could've sealed it in himself just for some time? What do you think?

1.It was because of the speed witch Naruto encountered all the attacks.It was a simple metaphor,like when Naruto clashed Fuuton:Rasengan with base Rasengan,Kakashi.

2.His name was Yellow Flash due to his blond hair and FTG,mostly FTG.

3.He entered KCM so easy because he has the YIN chakra with no conscious,it's just a pool of chakra he can tap in.

4.Bee was talking about BM,not KCM.Minato did not have to "capture the chakra" he already sealed it when he fought Obito.Point 3.

5.By your logic Madara was Kurama's jinchu aswell.He hated Minato for sealing him again in Naruto.He hated Madara for controling him.
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By the way,Kushina taugh Minato sealing techniques after Kushina was already the Jinchu,not before.So you're argument it's invalid.
 
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How unfair. He gave a perfect explanation. You're going off on this absurd tangent because Minato went into KCM with ease, and you can't seem to figure out why. Well he just stated why. =D

Perfect explanation of what? You both don't seem to even read what I wrote careful enough to see that I'm not questioning Minato's current state, but his past and possible explaination of some plot questions.
Anyway, I'm not interested in this pointless discussion with people who can't even read properly, so I'll skip such posts from now on. It's boring, ignorance always is :)

1.It was because of the speed witch Naruto encountered all the attacks.It was a simple metaphor,like when Naruto clashed Fuuton:Rasengan with base Rasengan,Kakashi.

2.His name was Yellow Flash due to his blond hair and FTG,mostly FTG.

3.He entered KCM so easy because he has the YIN chakra with no conscious,it's just a pool of chakra he can tap in.

4.Bee was talking about BM,not KCM.Minato did not have to "capture the chakra" he already sealed it when he fought Obito.Point 3.

5.By your logic Madara was Kurama's jinchu aswell.He hated Minato for sealing him again in Naruto.He hated Madara for controling him.
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By the way,Kushina taugh Minato sealing techniques after Kushina was already the Jinchu,not before.So you're argument it's invalid.

1. Read my first post again, I've explained why it's very unlikely.

2. FTG has no colour effects at all, shunshin has.

3. It's just a hypothesis, acceptable though

4. Read the manga again. He was talking about KCM before Naruto first entered it, while Naruto was preparing to fight Kyuubi inside of his mind.

5. Again, read more carefully. I've pointed that he tried hard to kill Minato -before- Minato sealed him :)

And about Kushina teaching heem - it was never stated in manga when did he teach him and how, so I'm affraid you're wrong, sir!
 
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Perfect explanation of what? You both don't seem to even read what I wrote careful enough to see that I'm not questioning Minato's current state, but his past and possible explaination of some plot questions.
Anyway, I'm not interested in this pointless discussion with people who can't even read properly, so I'll skip such posts from now on. It's boring, ignorance always is :)

'It's boring, ignorance always is'. No offence but you're the one showing ignorance. You're shrugging off anyone who questions this 'theory' of yours, without giving any actual answers.
 

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There were some fight for Kyuubi before the first meeting of A with Minato, and it's stated that Minato somehow prevented Kumo recieving Kyuubi. Could it be in some time before Kushina, or he could've sealed it in himself just for some time? What do you think?

okay now i get it, and answer is no ;)
it was first inside mito uzumaki then, kushina uzumaki was the next jinchuriki, the fight between Ay and minato was not for kyuubi.
it was either ninja mission or 3rd shinobi world war.
 

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'It's boring, ignorance always is'. No offence but you're the one showing ignorance. You're shrugging off anyone who questions this 'theory' of yours, without giving any actual answers.

The discussion is always about arguments. Opinion is never an argument. As you can see, I'm open to discuss with everyone who's read what I've written and given some evidence of their competence by speaking of what is actually contradicts the plot and what is not. Yes, I consider posts like "no you're wrong, it can't be so because it's not stated in the manga" ignorant and boring, and it's a shame if you don't understand why :)

okay now i get it, and answer is no ;)
it was first inside mito uzumaki then, kushina uzumaki was the next jinchuriki, the fight between Ay and minato was not for kyuubi.
it was either ninja mission or 3rd shinobi world war.

And Tobi is Madara. He told us that, right? He can't lie... Oh wait... :eek:
 

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So much fail in this post, cba reading all the pages, so im sorry if i am repeating what someone else said.

Minato sealed the yang part of the fox's chakra, not the fox itself, so he doesnt have to fight it for control over the chakra, the same way naruto freely uses the chakra his mom helped him steal from the fox.
 

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Perfect explanation of what? You both don't seem to even read what I wrote careful enough to see that I'm not questioning Minato's current state, but his past and possible explaination of some plot questions.
Anyway, I'm not interested in this pointless discussion with people who can't even read properly, so I'll skip such posts from now on. It's boring, ignorance always is :)



1. Read my first post again, I've explained why it's very unlikely.

2. FTG has no colour effects at all, shunshin has.

3. It's just a hypothesis, acceptable though

4. Read the manga again. He was talking about KCM before Naruto first entered it, while Naruto was preparing to fight Kyuubi inside of his mind.

5. Again, read more carefully. I've pointed that he tried hard to kill Minato -before- Minato sealed him :)

And about Kushina teaching heem - it was never stated in manga when did he teach him and how, so I'm affraid you're wrong, sir!

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I'm starting to think that you're a natural blond and not a redhead.Kishimoto already severed your theory with the scans provided.Read what Kushina said "I've been the previous jinchuriki of the..." "My predecesor as the jinchuriki was a strong female...".If you're gonna argue with Kishimoto that's fine but don't do it here.What you have here it's not even debatable.

Kushina taught Minato sealing techniques after he saved her or after they've got married.It's pure logic,she couldn't have taught him before he saved her and she was already the promised jinchuriki.Obito already stated that it was phenomenal that she was still alive after the Kiuuby was pulled out of her.Minato would have died.Note how Minato is amazed of Kurama's chakra,why would he be if he was a jinchuriki before
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I've come to the conclusion that you're just trolling, have a nice day
 

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1. Read my first post again, I've explained why it's very unlikely.

I have to agree with the other guy. When Kakashi looks up, he sees 1) Naruto "flashing" by and 2) Naruto with a chakra cloak similar in design to Minato's actual cloak. It was a split second resemblance that was quickly corrected.

2. FTG has no colour effects at all, shunshin has.

I agree. I believe he was called the Yellow flash due to his Shunshin and yellow hair ;)

3. It's just a hypothesis, acceptable though

I mentioned this before -> Minato sealed Kurama's chakra into himself before performing the RDS. He was briefly a psuedo-jinchuriki.

4. Read the manga again. He was talking about KCM before Naruto first entered it, while Naruto was preparing to fight Kyuubi inside of his mind.

The special room was needed in case Kurama went on a rampage. Hence why Naruto trained in there to fight Kurama in his mind.

Kurama was already on a rampage when Minato sealed some of the Kyuubi's chakra inside himself. So it was done out in the open instead of in his mind. Same result though -> separate chakra pool sealed inside!

5. Again, read more carefully. I've pointed that he tried hard to kill Minato -before- Minato sealed him :)

And about Kushina teaching heem - it was never stated in manga when did he teach him and how, so I'm affraid you're wrong, sir!

Kurama hated Minato because he sealed him into Naruto. So he can no longer roam free.

I'm pretty sure Kushina was the Jinchuriki faaaaaaar before she taught Minato the Uzumaki seals. Besides, Minato could not have lived through having Kurama sealed and then released from his body later -> Kushina barely hung on to life and she's an Uzumaki.
 
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So much fail in this post, cba reading all the pages, so im sorry if i am repeating what someone else said.

Minato sealed the yang part of the fox's chakra, not the fox itself, so he doesnt have to fight it for control over the chakra, the same way naruto freely uses the chakra his mom helped him steal from the fox.

imo she doesn't follow the manga carefully and imagining some random crap

And Tobi is Madara. He told us that, right? He can't lie... Oh wait... :eek:

and how come tobi came in this discussion the story of minato was told to naruto by kushina and she was not lying




you gotta read the manga starting from this^^ page up to few chapters, you will understand the story better
 
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*facepalm*
I'm starting to think that you're a natural blond and not a redhead.Kishimoto already severed your theory with the scans provided.Read what Kushina said "I've been the previous jinchuriki of the..." "My predecesor as the jinchuriki was a strong female...".If you're gonna argue with Kishimoto that's fine but don't do it here.What you have here it's not even debatable.

Kushina taught Minato sealing techniques after he saved her or after they've got married.It's pure logic,she couldn't have taught him before he saved her and she was already the promised jinchuriki.Obito already stated that it was phenomenal that she was still alive after the Kiuuby was pulled out of her.Minato would have died./thread

Now you've switched to insulting when you have nothing else to say... What a shame :) So much agression because of simple theory, and your lack of logic and creative thinking... I bet you were one of those who desperately tried to proof Tobi being Izuna a year ago. Have a nice day, anyway :)

I've come to the conclusion that you're just trolling, have a nice day

How come a theory is trolling? Nice day for you, too :)

and how come tobi came in this discussion the story of minato was told to naruto by kushina and she was not lying




you gotta read the manga starting from this^^ page up to few chapters, you will understand the story better

Perhaps it's because the story is one and same as well as the author? Try to read something of psychology, possibly you'll understand the connection then :)
 

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Well, Since the previous jinjuriki was Mito and then passed along to Kushina when she arrived to the village I doubt Minato could've been the nine tails jinjuriki prior. He used the Reaper death seal and Jinjuriki's can't use them because they already have something inside them as it is. If he was, Minato would've died during extraction and Kushina was the new host that they wanted. He was able to access the Kyuubi's power because he took half of Kurama's power, he didn't take half the beast, just his yin chakra. So when he died the chakra was ready available for him to have because he didn't have to have a tug of war with a conscious mind within himself. It was good to think outside the box but I don't think it was possible for Minato to be the nine tails jinjuriki prior to Kushina, Time line was to short and it was Kushina's destiny to become it.
 

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Now you've switched to insulting when you have nothing else to say... What a shame :) So much agression because of simple theory, and your lack of logic and creative thinking... I bet you were one of those who desperately tried to proof Tobi being Izuna a year ago. Have a nice day, anyway :)


How come a theory is trolling? Nice day for you, too :)



Perhaps it's because the story is one and same as well as the author? Try to read something of psychology, possibly you'll understand the connection then :)

Me!?!?!Bwahahaha.I really diden't care who Tobi was.I'm not insulting you,you're just derivating from the subject.Your thread was already countered by the manga pages i've provided and several members.Have a nice dayXD
 

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Me!?!?!Bwahahaha.I really diden't care who Tobi was.I'm not insulting you,you're just derivating from the subject.Your thread was already countered by the manga pages i've provided and several members.Have a nice dayXD

Switching from discussing my counter-arguments on yours to discussing my hair colour... Yeah, I'm derivating from the subject, that's for sure :) Have a nice day, friend!
 

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Now you've switched to insulting when you have nothing else to say... What a shame :) So much agression because of simple theory, and your lack of logic and creative thinking... I bet you were one of those who desperately tried to proof Tobi being Izuna a year ago. Have a nice day, anyway :)



How come a theory is trolling? Nice day for you, too :)



Perhaps it's because the story is one and same as well as the author? Try to read something of psychology, possibly you'll understand the connection then :)

okay sis you are so creative thinker, i give you that :rolleyes:
but we people follow manga and discuss misconceptions
and yaa i've no time for psychology :'(
and i can't understand the connection, i understand simple math, and i tried to make you understand :)
you should have posted this creative thinking of urs as fanfiction ;)

:bye:
 
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I've been recently thinking about the whole Minato-KCM thing in the manga, trying to collect oll the pieces of the puzzle, and I've come to some interesting conclusions.

1) When Naruto first entered his Bijuu Mode and recieved the chakra cloak, Kakashi thought it was Minato before him, looking from the back. Sure it can be considered as some of metaphor, but think about it: Kishi likes to make such a twists, making us think that the obviouse has something comprehanded under the surface (remember the entire Tobi is Izuna, Kagami, Madara or whoever while it was obviouse from his first appearance that it is Obito.

2) His nickname was Yellow Flash. And his hair is blonde, as well as Naruto's. If he's as fast as flash, in his usual outfit the flash would look anything but yellow, while we know how Naruto (and obviousely Minato) looks while using Shunshin no jutsu in KCM

3) He's recieved the half of Kurama's chakra right before he's died, and he's come on the battlefield almost at the time he was ressurrected. Without a doubt, he's smart and all, but isn't it strange he can so easy enter KCM? Like he did this a dozen of times? Furthermore, none of Edo Kages was surprised of him using KCM, as well as other shinobi (except the younger generation) who could've possibly meet him alive.

4) We all know it requires some special training to enter KCM and it has to be don in a special place, but Killer Bee stated once to Naruto: "Once you capture the chakra of Kyuubi, it's yours forever".

5) Kyuubi hated Minato, he really did. And I may be wrong, but he hates his hosts mostly (and Madara ofc).

EDIT!
6)Also Edo Tensei ressurrects one in their prime form, when the were the most powerful in their lifespan.l

So, what I'm thinking about: what if Minato was at some point junchuuriki of Kurama? There were some fight for Kyuubi before the first meeting of A with Minato, and it's stated that Minato somehow prevented Kumo recieving Kyuubi. Could it be in some time before Kushina, or he could've sealed it in himself just for some time? What do you think?

It's already been stated (like Rez has said) that Minato wasn't a jin
I mean I don't how else to put it
 
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