Genjutsu!

[raziel777]

I like genjutsu but I have a few questions/remarks

*We all know how OP Tsukuyomi is. So how does the top dogs in Narutoverse get through it ?

*Sakura fans always bring that "she is a genjutsu type", what does that actually mean ? She can perform genjutsu better than other people ? Or she is resistant to them ?

*I hate it when people say perfect jins are immune against genjutsu. here is a scan to prove you otherwise. B got hit by Sasuke's tsukuyomi.

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There was plenty of time for Sasuke to scr*w him over ,while he was falling, if he wanted him dead. And if it were Itachi's, he would have been a goner, a one-second hit Tsukuyomi is more than enough against anybody.

*Who remembers Kurenai ? I liked her, I wish we had seen more of her fighting style.

 

[hixa kuogame]

lol no bee kicked his arse

 

[Mitarashi]

The only way to tank Tsukyuomi is to have Sharingan.
Otherwise you're down.

 

[Haru70]

Bee broke out of that tsukuyomi, so perfect jinchuuriki's are immune due to their inner bijuu/partner. And Sakura can't overcome tsukuyomi because only Uchiha with strong enough eyes or something like that can do it.

 

[Drakengard]

Well Tsukuyomi foils the idea of using partners to escape genjutsu, so that's out of the question. If the character in question knows that most high-class Uchiha have powerful ocular genjutsu then it becomes easier (see Kabuto's defense against it). Even a little arrogance might get a high class shinobi like Orochimaru caught it in. But I guess there are still some methods like clone feints (I wonder if Itachi still loses chakra and eyesight if it's used on a clone). If ninja can find ways to fight without using their vision it becomes a big help too (if you're a sensor it should be easier on you). Naruto for example, might figure out a way to use his Sage Mode or even evil intention sensing for this in the future.

Could be both I guess. Not really sure.

Personally I also do not believe that Bee's defense will protect him from Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Still you have to remember that Itachi actually did get him in a genjutsu once but the Hachibi broke him out of it in time to defend himself. I really don't want to battle about how Itachi was "limited" in that form for some reason so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah it's too bad really :/ her whole fighting style seems to be based on genjutsu, so I wonder if she has to be creative with her illusions.

 

[raziel777]

Bee broke out of that tsukuyomi, so perfect jinchuuriki's are immune due to their inner bijuu/partner. And Sakura can't overcome tsukuyomi because only Uchiha with strong enough eyes or something like that can do it.

Dude, being immune to something means that it doesn't affect you in any way!!! While we clearly saw B being temporarily disabled by Tsukuyomi, even if his biju got him out of it. He still got hit. Sasuke's is imperfect as stated by Obito whilst Itachi's is OP. B would have been dead if it were Itachi's

*I didn't mean that Sakura could get out of Tsukuyomi, I was talking about Genjutsu in general. What does being a genjutsu type actually means ?

 

[raziel777]

Well Tsukuyomi foils the idea of using partners to escape genjutsu, so that's out of the question. If the character in question knows that most high-class Uchiha have powerful ocular genjutsu then it becomes easier (see Kabuto's defense against it). Even a little arrogance might get a high class shinobi like Orochimaru caught it in. But I guess there are still some methods like clone feints (I wonder if Itachi still loses chakra and eyesight if it's used on a clone). If ninja can find ways to fight without using their vision it becomes a big help too (if you're a sensor it should be easier on you). Naruto for example, might figure out a way to use his Sage Mode or even evil intention sensing for this in the future.

Could be both I guess. Not really sure.

Personally I also do not believe that Bee's defense will protect him from Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Still you have to remember that Itachi actually did get him in a genjutsu once but the Hachibi broke him out of it in time to defend himself. I really don't want to battle about how Itachi was "limited" in that form for some reason so I'll leave it at that.

Yeah it's too bad really :/ her whole fighting style seems to be based on genjutsu, so I wonder if she has to be creative with her illusions.

Nice post. Itachi hit B with a normal genjutsu so Tsukuyomi would have worked better.

Anyway, yeah I like Kurenai. Kishi made her look weak but she's till a jonin. Her fighting style would have been interesting to watch

 

[Haru70]

Dude, being immune to something means that it doesn't affect you in any way!!! While we clearly saw B being temporarily disabled by Tsukuyomi, even if his biju got him out of it. He still got hit. Sasuke's is imperfect as stated by Obito whilst Itachi's is OP. B would have been dead if it were Itachi's

*I didn't mean that Sakura could get out of Tsukuyomi, I was talking about Genjutsu in general. What does being a genjutsu type actually means ?

Dude you know what I meant, perfect jinchuuriki's basically have an advantage over tsukuyomi, from what we saw.

 

[sasukeu]

the real question is could sasuke have amaterasued bee right after he caught him in genjutsu its seemed like he had enough time but that he just thought bee was done after he landed the genjutsu