NaruHina still stands

[NarutoSamaKama]

I think that the reason why people use this as an example on to why NaruHina should happen is because they want to see both characters happy? In terms more specific, People want Hinata, a girl that is an underdog that has been shone by her family and that got inspired and motivated by one single boy to always look forward no matter what, to get the guy that she first admired, then crush on and the fell in love with because she 'deserves' happiness. In Naruto's case I think is that they want someone that loves Naruto not only by his pros but also his cons, like his perverseness to his 'blonde' moments if you could say (no offense to blondes)? someone to show him that he is love no matter how he is or acts. Or at least that's what I understand when they explained the reason why they use that phrase.

Thats a lot of my reasons, well said.
:yayy:

 

[Guntah]

I see that as possible scenario but only if shinobi world will trully unite after the war. If that happens they will need someone as supreme leader. Basically, Kages would be serving as his captains in respective villages. That supreme leader would be Naruto of course.

Hum..I obviously disagree with your theory being a naruhina fan, however, i see your point of view.

 

[Guntah]

I think that the reason why people use this as an example on to why NaruHina should happen is because they want to see both characters happy? In terms more specific, People want Hinata, a girl that is an underdog that has been shone by her family and that got inspired and motivated by one single boy to always look forward no matter what, to get the guy that she first admired, then crush on and the fell in love with because she 'deserves' happiness. In Naruto's case I think is that they want someone that loves Naruto not only by his pros but also his cons, like his perverseness to his 'blonde' moments if you could say (no offense to blondes)? someone to show him that he is love no matter how he is or acts. Or at least that's what I understand when they explained the reason why they use that phrase.

I couldnt say it better myself. My reason to support the pairing is the wish to see a happy ending (Sasusaku, Naruhina, Naruto becomes Hokage)s

 

[Joshutsu]

So you are telling me that when she was fighting with Neji when he cheer for her mean nothing? When she was about to be taken away and she saids "did I proof myself well" and he decides to do a blood oat in her honor is nothing and when she was going to be attack by the Zetsu clones and he saves her, she starts to feel upset because she feels like she isn't strong enough because she got save again by him and he goes and tells her "don't worry you are strong is all in your eyes" making her believe in herself again, is not something he did directly for her? then explained to me than what is doing something directly then, because i think you and I view things differently.

If I remember, I corrected that part because the words they use is 'like' instead of love and to me liking someone is not as strong as loving.However, I still believe he has a thing for her, but so far he has always stated it to be a crush and him liking her, but compare to Sakura and Hinata, who both have use the words love to express their feelings. Actually, when he started backing off was when he promise to bring him back, later in the hospital doing the same by telling her he would get strong and bring him home. When he returns in Shippuden he tries again to pursue her, but all that time he still knows she's in love with Sasuke those tries to win her heart again.Those the flashback with Sai appears since he notices Naruto trying, however is true that he is not like the immature Naruto in part 1, but he was shown already asking her out in both anime and manga which is something he use to do in part 1, that tells us he's trying to see if he can win her heart. Naruto and everyone have always known that Sakura loves Sasuke, those the reason why he and everyone else didn't believe her when she confess to him. After this everyone started thinking "maybe she finally started falling for Naruto" but then chapter 540 ( I think it was)happen, when the Iwa ninja comes and confesses to her and she said she's in love with someone else, we are reassure again that she's still in love with Sasuke even though she knows he's not such good guy as the Iwa ninja assume the person that she loves is. Also after the fake confession many people started assuming that Naruto started getting over Sakura, I for ones didn't see this and always continue to say to people that he still likes her, but I will tell you one thing. When chapter 631 happen I started having dough's because of the way he answer a simple question that he would always go around and say "yes, she is".

Your first paragraph HAS NOTHING to do with what you initially said, you said when she would watch him she has been inspired by him. That is indirect. All the times she's been watching him and being inspired from the bushes or wherever is indirect. Encouraging words to her are direct. Those are direct encouragement but how does that link a pairing. He knows she lacks confidence and wants to be brave so he will always try to give her uplifting words. He's that kind of person.

Your second paragraph is rather long to bring across that point, having me read all of that! Anyways I don't believe hes given up on trying to pursue her after 631. Everytime sakura thinks about sasuke, its about the darkness hes fallen into i think it is just that she cares. I also don't believe her confession was fake. We just say it's fake because Naruto rejected her. Which is not valid other than Naruto just couldn't believe that after he knows how she loved sasuke in the past.

 

[Guntah]

Your second paragraph is rather long to bring across that point, having me read all of that! Anyways I don't believe hes given up on trying to pursue her after 631. Everytime sakura thinks about sasuke, its about the darkness hes fallen into i think it is just that she cares. I also don't believe her confession was fake. We just say it's fake because Naruto rejected her. Which is not valid other than Naruto just couldn't believe that after he knows how she loved sasuke in the past.

Really ? You think her confession was real? Thats...i cant say it, or id be going against the forum rules...but really, she loves Sasuke, it would be the same thing as if i said Naruto loved Hinata...

 

[Joshutsu]

Lol! Eat a snickers. You're not you when you're butt hurt . How dare I imply that you are the attackers? Fine let me put it this way BOTH SIDES attack each other yes. But I'm going by what happened during the last chapter. Where some NaruSaku fans claimed NS was sure fire canon. You just admitted that with the NaruSaku fans you've talked with haven't done that but what about the ones you haven't? Hmm? NH and NS fans like to play innocent and claim they're just the bigger victim. Don't get upset when all I did was ask a question over what I've seen. Yes NaruSaku fans are just as confident granted but my question IS why, if NaruSaku fans claim that they have much more evidence and logical reasoning that NS will happen, why get so defensive against NaruHina. When even they don't have the amount NaruSaku fans are usually giving.

No sweetheart. That's just a NaruSaku fan habit by the way. XD Someone isn't supporting their precious NaruSaku they're AUTOMATICALLY NaruHina. When was it stated that NaruHina was my preferred pairing? Are that upset because I called out NaruSaku fans? You think I haven't seen when NaruHina fans bash NS as well? Please. It's been a back and forth war between these two sides for quite a while now it even outnumbered SasuSaku for a while.

You seem "to forget" what else she stated after that. Hinata said she would not chase him after the war but wall by his side and be holding his hand. So no. That was invalid. It wasn't said because she wants Naruto and Sakura together. I'm almost not even sure how you got that when Hinata clearly stated she would be walking beside him not chasing him anymore.

Sakura has genuine feelings for Naruto but to what extent? You can't speak on Sakuras behalf when she's clearly shown to still like Sasuke especially in chapter 632. All pairings are still one sided so like I've said for a while now its too early to claim a winner and that goes to ANY OF THE PAIRINGS FANS :snick:

witty!! No prize though :O

I said both sides, but whenever NaruHina launches an attack who do they bash? One character. I have proof all over this base. If you find me Narusaku threads where there's bringing down of Hinata and not just stating our points i will leave it alone. Every Naruhina post i come accross consists of why narusaku won't happen to boost them because there isnt much for them to discuss about their own pairing specifically. We get defensive because they want to play off our facts as jokes. But theirs are always serious. Chapter 631 is this exactly.

No 'sweetheart'. I said in this situation between Narusaku and Naruhina, it seems of the two NaruHina is your preferred since you are hell bent on debating this. I don't care what you alternate between as this point in time you are infact debating pro naruHina, you seem to know their tendencies for someone who isn't a part of have anything to do with them. Since you have bothered to tell me what they are and aren't.

NO I said she wants that, but if it does NOT happen the part about not chasing him anymore will come into play. She will not pursue him anymore if he does not share mutual feeling. Did you see her reaction to the whole thing in 631? She isnt stupid she knows what it going on, she is the type of girl that would put aside her wants so naruto can be happy.

I assume you are on the whole thing about the 632 thing being blushing, it looks like dirt to me. Whenever i have seen blushing in that anime it never looked so lop sided to me or uneven one of them looks like his pencil or w/e slipped xD. I can't take it as a blush, she was surprised he saved her anyhow. She still neeeds her closure with Sasuke. Why didn't she blush and react so when he first showed up? She won't just forget what he did. Something will go down there between the 3 of them.

It does go to any of the pairing fans, the point is shipping something is because you believe it will or can happen. Eitherway, won't matter to me too much if its Sasuke or Naruto, they are both smexy choices for the lady \(^_^)/

I think this is over anyhow, Anything beyond this will be repetative, i've already stated what i have to you don't have to believe or agree with any of it as you said we will know when the manga ends

 

[luzhikari]

Your first paragraph HAS NOTHING to do with what you initially said, you said when she would watch him she has been inspired by him. That is indirect. All the times she's been watching him and being inspired from the bushes or wherever is indirect. Encouraging words to her are direct. Those are direct encouragement but how does that link a pairing. He knows she lacks confidence and wants to be brave so he will always try to give her uplifting words. He's that kind of person.

Your second paragraph is rather long to bring across that point, having me read all of that! Anyways I don't believe hes given up on trying to pursue her after 631. Everytime sakura thinks about sasuke, its about the darkness hes fallen into i think it is just that she cares. I also don't believe her confession was fake. We just say it's fake because Naruto rejected her. Which is not valid other than Naruto just couldn't believe that after he knows how she loved sasuke in the past.

you said that none of the things I posted are directly influencial, and I put them again more explained so yes, is still related to the oroginal quote and if you put it like that she yes, the one from when she watch him and got inspired doesn't count.

Is long because I like to explained myself well so that there's no dough on why I have that perspective.That's your opinion then, to me her confession wasn't sincere those making her confession fake. If Naruto would have accepted her confession and later we see Sakura thinking about the person she loves and Naruto doesn't pop but instead Sasuke does in the flashback it means that her confession was fake and people would start hating her more.

 

[MonCheRena]

witty!! No prize though :O

I said both sides, but whenever NaruHina launches an attack who do they bash? One character. I have proof all over this base. If you find me Narusaku threads where there's bringing down of Hinata and not just stating our points i will leave it alone. Every Naruhina post i come accross consists of why narusaku won't happen to boost them because there isnt much for them to discuss about their own pairing specifically. We get defensive because they want to play off our facts as jokes. But theirs are always serious. Chapter 631 is this exactly.

No 'sweetheart'. I said in this situation between Narusaku and Naruhina, it seems of the two NaruHina is your preferred since you are hell bent on debating this. I don't care what you alternate between as this point in time you are infact debating pro naruHina, you seem to know their tendencies for someone who isn't a part of have anything to do with them. Since you have bothered to tell me what they are and aren't.

NO I said she wants that, but if it does NOT happen the part about not chasing him anymore will come into play. She will not pursue him anymore if he does not share mutual feeling. Did you see her reaction to the whole thing in 631? She isnt stupid she knows what it going on, she is the type of girl that would put aside her wants so naruto can be happy.

I assume you are on the whole thing about the 632 thing being blushing, it looks like dirt to me. Whenever i have seen blushing in that anime it never looked so lop sided to me or uneven one of them looks like his pencil or w/e slipped xD. I can't take it as a blush, she was surprised he saved her anyhow. She still neeeds her closure with Sasuke. Why didn't she blush and react so when he first showed up? She won't just forget what he did. Something will go down there between the 3 of them.

It does go to any of the pairing fans, the point is shipping something is because you believe it will or can happen. Eitherway, won't matter to me too much if its Sasuke or Naruto, they are both smexy choices for the lady \(^_^)/

I think this is over anyhow, Anything beyond this will be repetative, i've already stated what i have to you don't have to believe or agree with any of it as you said we will know when the manga ends

Actually i wasnt stuck on chapter 632 but that chapter did proves she still likes sasuke. Its denial xif you claim otherwise lol! Pairings are still generally like this Hinata->Naruto->Sakura->Sasuke.

What reaction? Oh you mean the surprised reaction Hinata had when Naruto admitted to already knowing his father was near. Yup. I noticed that reaction lol NaruSaku fans failed to see the moral of chapter 631 and immediately deemed it romance for their benefit using Minatos questions as a sure fire win for NaruSaku. Just like NaruHinas used chapter 615. That (like chapter 631) was not a pairing cofirmation. It was grateful acknowledgement and admiration for staying by his side. When many NaruSaku fans have come up with lame excuses like "he was only giving her chakra" to counter. Why? Did they feel threatened by that moment? It was gratitude. Nothing romantic. Narutos response to Minatos question? "Yeah more or less" or "if you're splitting hairs". There was no certainty to the answer. Sakura punching him while NaruSaku fans claimed she didn't deny it.

That's where I mean NH fans and NS fans failed to see the moral of that chapter. Title being: TEAM 7. That interaction was classic team 7. When has Naruto not jumped at the chance to claim Sakura as his gf? And if you remember back to part 1, konohamaru did something similar and teased Naruto about Sakura being his girlfriend. She didnt "deny it" back then either (and thats when sasuke was around) but responded the same way she did in this chapter. Then who arrived after the self proclaimed NaruSaku moment? Sasuke himself. You obviously want to deny that just because Sakura didnt run to Sasuke she doesn't feel for him. And yet you still deny Sakuras blush when he and Naruto saved her but he landed by her side a little bit before Naruto.

Lol the only thing I will repeat is how typical NaruSaku fans are. Claim what you will about what my preferred pairing is but you can't speak for me. That's how you're interpreting it. And stubbornly might I add. :wesobi:

So if i had to choose a pairing so you get over your little assumptions ill side with narusasu thank you very much. The butthurt over these pairings is off the charts

 

[Mistraal]

No, it seems the "Hinata is owed Naruto's affection" is the unspoken reason adopted by NaruHina supporters.

This kills me. Do Hinata and Naru/Hina fans NOT see how INHERENTLY misogynistic the above point of view is?

One more go at having someone with this POV answer this and then I'm going to assume I killed the discussion besides pairing "banter".

 

[MonCheRena]

One more go at having someone with this POV answer this and then I'm going to assume I killed the discussion besides pairing "banter".

Obviously no one. Either quit trying or go look for someone on another thread

 

[Mistraal]

Obviously no one. Either quit trying or go look for someone on another thread

Point proven. Many thanks.

 

[Guntah]

But it has been stated by Sai, Yamato and I believe Kakashi as well that Sakura is in love with Naruto. She probably just doesn't realize it yet... like Naruto, she's a little hard-headed at times and she did seem downhearted to learn that Hinata was in love with Naruto. My idea on that bit may be that Sakura, while still pining after Sasuke but starting to develop feelings for Naruto, realized that Hinata loves Naruto in such a wholehearted way that Sakura herself can't really compete. She then realizes that, if Naruto is taken, that leaves her with the far less honorable Sasuke. That's probably why she thought of him instead of Naruto when that other shinobi asked her out- in her mind, Hinata had spoken for Naruto, and until Naruto says otherwise, he's off-limits.

But I wholeheartedly agree that, as far as romance with this generation of ninja goes, it's all unrequited love, baby.

Sakura`s not in love with Naruto ( If she was in the way you say shed seem like a ****)

 

[SanguineJackal]

Sakura`s not in love with Naruto ( If she was in the way you say shed seem like a ****)

Everyone seems to think she is a ***** regardless. It's "cool" to hate Sakura. I think she is in love with him. She just can't see it/come to terms with it until she has a resolution with Sasuke, and that resolution of being done with him romantically.

 

[Guntah]

I can understand the appeal of the pairing, but saying Hinata "deserves" the male hero's love as an argument in lieu of feelings the hero isn't showing is inherently sexist. It makes her sound like the only reason she exists is to be a competitor for his affection and she "deserves" him for her dedication to the cause.

It's disgusting.

Isnt that treating the manga too much like real life?

 

[Guntah]

Damn, i wouldnt doubt if Sasuhina Happened the way things are going...

 

[Mistraal]

Isnt that treating the manga too much like real life?

How is treating female characters the same as male characters "too much like real life"?

 

[Guntah]

witty!! No prize though :O

I said both sides, but whenever NaruHina launches an attack who do they bash? One character. I have proof all over this base. If you find me Narusaku threads where there's bringing down of Hinata and not just stating our points i will leave it alone. Every Naruhina post i come accross consists of why narusaku won't happen to boost them because there isnt much for them to discuss about their own pairing specifically. We get defensive because they want to play off our facts as jokes. But theirs are always serious. Chapter 631 is this exactly.

Okay, you are being too judgemental, every pairing`s got its douchebag fans, some that bash other pairing without any logic based argument, saying only NaruHina fans are like this would be unfair at the very least.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Everyone seems to think she is a ***** regardless. It's "cool" to hate Sakura. I think she is in love with him. She just can't see it/come to terms with it until she has a resolution with Sasuke, and that resolution of being done with him romantically.

Actually, this is a good point. Today there is not a proof of Sakura loving Sasuke romantically. These feelings were kept locked in part 1.

What remains until now is just the guilt of lefting him, and just a classical "Sasuke kun" in middle of a battle

 

[Guntah]

How is treating female characters the same as male characters "too much like real life"?

Well, you said "It makes her sound like the only reason she exists is to be a competitor for his affection" when actually that is one of the reasons of Hinata`s character, same goes for Sakura, the love triangle thing usualy atracts popularity to the manga. But yes, i agree with you in the point that she does not "deserve" his love, however Naruto should give her a chance...

 

[Guntah]

Everyone seems to think she is a ***** regardless. It's "cool" to hate Sakura. I think she is in love with him. She just can't see it/come to terms with it until she has a resolution with Sasuke, and that resolution of being done with him romantically.

Why would she try to forget Sasuke now of all times? I dont get why NS fans think that...he came back to Konoha, so why would she try to forget Sasuke when he is no longer a bad guy?