[Discussion] Is Orochimaru an Evil Character? Is he truly a villiain?

[Mr Hiru]

I had to put this thread. There are things that took my attention on the forum and I must consider them in order to have a better comprehension of the Narutoverse.

I'm going to put some interesting definitions in here, I'm really thinking about how Narutoverse works...

Ignorance: Lacking of Knowledge. Does it exists? No
Cold: Lacking of heat. Does it exists? No
Darkness: Lacking of light. Does it exists? No
Forgetfulness: Lacking of memory. Does it exists? No

How about evil?

Evil doesn't either exist. Evil is a concept relative to man, but only aludes to the lack of Good. Evil in terms of morality can't be put into Orochimaru, as his objectives until now are not under this definition... he seeks knowledge (He seeks to learn all the jutsus in the world). Furthermore, the entire Narutoverse as villiains that searches for an objective that isn't evil at all (under our conception of Evil), this is, peace.

Why would he search for an Uchiha's Body or at least its Sharingan on Part 1? There is a possibility that he already knew about the connection between the Senju Clan, the Uchiha Clan and the Sage of the Six Paths, the one who knew everything about Ninshû. Maybe he is searching for the Rinnegan in order to be able to master all the jutsus... even those who are only accesible for whose who walks in the Seventh Path of Pain.

Answer: Quite simple. He already had Senju DNA, he even used it to kill the Third Hokage. He only needed for Uchiha's Dôjutsu.

Possibilities reversed: Why does Orochimaru now helps the Shinobi Alliance in the War against Madara?

Answer: He got the chance to get full compatibility with Senju DNA after using the Living Corpse Reincarnation jutsu, giving him more possibilities to get a Sharingan. That aside, Madara and Obito are in his way, his objective is not compatible at all with theirs. If he can't get Uchiha Sasuke's Sharingan, there is still a chance of him being able to get other sharingan present in the battlefield. That could be Kakashi's Sharingan, or Obito's Sharingan (There aren't proof that assures Orochimaru didn't know about Tobi's true identity. Maybe he left Akatsuki because of this).

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So, what do you think guys? Am I wrong? Is Orochimaru only an inmoral b*tch or he is really a bad guy? Let the discusion begin

 

[Ryutsu]

Yes. He is evil and the people that have the bite mark on them, every time orichimaru dies he just comes out of it so i think the more people with the mark the more lifes he has.

 

[CA137794]

Him and Madara aren the only ninja who didn't need coaxing to be bad. Look at Obito, Nagato, Sasuke etc.

 

[MinatoFan47]

Nah he did what he did because he was bored. Peace bores him. True story U_U

 

[foxyladyland]

Orochimaru was an innocent child with thoughts that anything was possible. he was extremely naïve and disturbed.
he had malice behind his eyes im guessing because he didn't like the way the world was and he wanted the power to change that. he probably didn't truly understand what everything was happening for and what the reasons were.
He wants to become god so he can be whatever he wants to be and find himself. also his parents , he thought he would see them in the future if he waited long enough because hiruzen told him so. he told little orohcimaru that his parents would come back one day maybe and orochimaru bought it 100% and may have grown angry at hiruzen for telling him that.

 

[Aki Kimura99]

No, he's an angel. But I agree with foxy he was an innocent child

 

[bunique]

i think orochimaru is one of the more complex characters in the naruto-verse

when u think he is bad, he issn't
when u think he is good, he issn't
when u think he is dead, he issn't
when u think he is alive, he issn't

and for that i like the guy.

 

[blackstar9]

Oro is just a mad scientist . Who mutated his self to try to reach immortality . Kakuzu said there is no such thing as immortality in this world . His immortality is basically like voldemort . Once last horcrux is gone oro is a goner . Anyway he manipulates lil kids and corrupts them kabuto , kimmimaro , etc. He is smart and powerful and close to immortal . But he hasnt beaten anybody in the manga besides an old hiruzen . Im not sure why he has so many fanboys . Obito is way better as a villain . Oro is just a demented scientist basically !

 

[3MESSIAH]

orochimaru-definition of villain. i just hope he doesnt become good.that would be way out of character XD

 

[God of the akatsuki]

the man is a human snake for god damn sake v_v

 

[Mr Hiru]

i think orochimaru is one of the more complex characters in the naruto-verse

when u think he is bad, he issn't
when u think he is good, he issn't
when u think he is dead, he issn't
when u think he is alive, he issn't

and for that i like the guy.

This is one of the most accurate definitions of Orochimaru I have ever read. In fact, that's why I opened this thread... I don't agree when people says he is bad, evil or villian...

the man is a human snake for god damn sake v_v

Yeah, I looked this as a pretty valid metaphore.

Just as Adam and Eve, he gave power... he gave Knowledge.

 

[Imperfect]

He wants to unravel the secrets of the world. Unfortunately he uses people, kills them and experiments on them, without much compassion or even need to do so.

He is evil to the core but his original goal was admirable.

 

[King Of Crows]

He experimented on children and killed all of them, but one. :| I think he JUST might be evil.

 

[Mr Hiru]

He wants to unravel the secrets of the world. Unfortunately he uses people, kills them and experiments on them, without much compassion or even need to do so.

He is evil to the core but his original goal was admirable.

He experimented on children and killed all of them, but one. :| I think he JUST might be evil.

That would be valid only if your definition of evil is lack of morality, but then again... the lack of something is something that doesn't exist.

What IS evil? I am not asking about what is not evil...

 

[fayeon]

He killed a lot of innocent people he is evil

 

[blackstar9]

That would be valid only if your definition of evil is lack of morality, but then again... the lack of something is something that doesn't exist.

What IS evil? I am not asking about what is not evil...

sure there is nothing immoral about experimenting and killing children ?

 

[King Of Crows]

That would be valid only if your definition of evil is lack of morality, but then again... the lack of something is something that doesn't exist.

What IS evil? I am not asking about what is not evil...

Evil is when someone doesn't like puppies or kittens.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

if you think oro wasnt evil then go outside and put a kitten on a spit.

 

[veggetta13]

Why is everyone so hot about compatibility into Narutoverse?

Not yet, I´ve felt faces in the story too deeply compelled into DNA investigtion. Furthermore a hunch, can´t most of heroes and villains on pursue of higher power fell into the understanding the dominion of both sides of the power scheme, was in their blood, and unexpectedly mistaken they guided themselves onto such?

I really don´t think Naruto will end justifying its story on such terms.

I really agreee with Hidura in the sense of understanding Orochimaru actually, in a plain and really wide view, never really was a villain.

 

[The Madara Uchiha]

He has changed throughout the whole show so i've given up on him. But he originally was good so now i'm guessing he will probably stay good.