Sasuke vs Minato

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Typical fanboy response.

In KCM, Minato can sense negative emotions and Sasuke is filled of them. As we all know, the MS makes an uchiha's chakra colder, as stated by Karin several times.

He can both sense and dodge Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Enton or whatever else you have.
K, and how does Minato exactly destroy Susano'o covered with Enton? What will he do once Sasuke covers the whole place with Enton which will help prep Kirin?
 

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Oh, Jesus Christ, be serious.

If the crappy genjutsu Sasuke has is the best argument you have it's already obvious who wins.

Yes. I am serious. This is EMS Sasuke so that means that he has Itachi's eyes as well. [ ] So his eyes are as good as Itachi's. Maybe even better.

Just because Sasuke doesn't use as many times as Itachi does, doesn't mean that he isn't good at Genjutsu. It's not his fighting style. Sasuke uses Genjutsu only when he feels that he needs to, so against Minato he will figure out that he will have to use Genjutsu.

How will Minato even harm a flying Sasuke? [ ]
 

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Typical fanboy response.

In KCM, Minato can sense negative emotions and Sasuke is filled of them. As we all know, the MS makes an uchiha's chakra colder, as stated by Karin several times.

He can both sense and dodge Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Enton or whatever else you have.

Has he shown any sensing feats that Yang KCM Naruto has shown? Cause as far as the manga goes only Naruto posses Mito's ability.All this is an assumption that has yet to be proved in the manga.
 

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K, and how does Minato exactly destroy Susano'o covered with Enton? What will he do once Sasuke covers the whole place with Enton which will help prep Kirin?

Kirin? Kirin can't hit Minato. He moves at instant speed. See FTG.

Yes. I am serious. This is EMS Sasuke so that means that he has Itachi's eyes as well. [1] So his eyes are as good as Itachi's. Maybe even better.

Just because Sasuke doesn't use as many times as Itachi does, doesn't mean that he isn't good at Genjutsu. It's not his fighting style. Sasuke uses Genjutsu only when he feels that he needs to, so against Minato he will figure out that he will have to use Genjutsu.

How will Minato even harm a flying Sasuke?

So his eyes are as good as Itachi's. Maybe even better.

Making up feats, now? Sasuke being as good as Itachi at genjutsu? Ridiculous.

Itachi was a genjutsu god. His Tsukuyomi shat on everything else bar KA.

Summoning Jutsu requires hand seals, I think... 4, to be precise, plus blood. Plenty time for Minato to stab him in the face. He's way faster than Raikage and Raikage blitzed Sasuke before.
 

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Kirin? Kirin can't hit Minato. He moves at instant speed. See FTG.





Making up feats, now? Sasuke being as good as Itachi at genjutsu? Ridiculous.

Itachi was a genjutsu god. His Tsukuyomi shat on everything else bar KA.

Summoning Jutsu requires hand seals, I think... 4, to be precise, plus blood. Plenty time for Minato to stab him in the face. He's way faster than Raikage and Raikage blitzed Sasuke before.

What? Sasuke clearly said ''These are your eyes''. U_U

How can he stab him if Susano'o is activated? :sy:
 

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Kirin? Kirin can't hit Minato. He moves at instant speed. See FTG.





Making up feats, now? Sasuke being as good as Itachi at genjutsu? Ridiculous.

Itachi was a genjutsu god. His Tsukuyomi shat on everything else bar KA.

Summoning Jutsu requires hand seals, I think... 4, to be precise, plus blood. Plenty time for Minato to stab him in the face. He's way faster than Raikage and Raikage blitzed Sasuke before.
Still providing no counters to Susano'o covered with Enton nor covering the area with Enton. Kirin destroys a large area in a very small time, his kunais can be dealt with Enton Yasaka Magatama, to prevent Minato from using FTG.

Sasuke was able to keep up with Raikage slightly. Sasuke dodged a punch and hit him with Chidori, was able to activate Susano'o before getting hit with Liger Bomb, he covered Susano'o with Enton before he got *****slapped. In any case if he can't keep up he could activate Susano'o, do the signs and fly and spam from there.
 

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Still providing no counters to Susano'o covered with Enton nor covering the area with Enton. Kirin destroys a large area in a very small time, his kunais can be dealt with Enton Yasaka Magatama, to prevent Minato using FTG.

Sasuke was able to keep up with Raikage slightly. Sasuke dodged a punch and hit him with Chidori, was able to activate Susano'o before getting hit with Liger Bomb, he covered Susano'o with Enton before he got *****slapped. In any case if he can't keep up he could activate Susano'o, do the signs and fly and spam from there.
Giving your valid point are more solid counter.
 

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How can he stab him if Susano'o is activated?

How can Sasuke draw blood and use the summoning jutsu inside Susanoo?

his kunais can be dealt with Enton Yasaka Magatama

Okay, Sasuke is wasting precious chakra on kunais.

Minato can tag anything he touches. He doesn't need the kunais for FTG. Hell, he can tag Susanoo.

Still providing no counters to Susano'o covered with Enton

Teleporting it to Konoha seems like a fair counter.

Sasuke was able to keep up with Raikage slightly. Sasuke dodged a punch and hit him with Chidori, was able to activate Susano'o before getting hit with Liger Bomb

That was V1, not V2.
 

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Sasuke.We all were thinking, hey Sasuke needs a new power up, his ems is not strong enough.Well you did just for the first time see a entont sword.That is just a fraction of what he can do and who knows even though h mite not need a powerup he will probabbly get one.

Tsyukyomi freezes
than
Amaterasu GG
lets see Minato get past susanoo with rasengan, when Kirin can't get past it.
 

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How can Sasuke draw blood and use the summoning jutsu inside Susanoo?



Okay, Sasuke is wasting precious chakra on kunais.

Minato can tag anything he touches. He doesn't need the kunais for FTG. Hell, he can tag Susanoo.



Teleporting it to Konoha seems like a fair counter.



That was V1, not V2.

Sasuke keeped up with Naruto. [ ]
 

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How can Sasuke draw blood and use the summoning jutsu inside Susanoo?



Okay, Sasuke is wasting precious chakra on kunais.

Minato can tag anything he touches. He doesn't need the kunais for FTG. Hell, he can tag Susanoo.



Teleporting it to Konoha seems like a fair counter.



That was V1, not V2.
Nothing to imply he can't

His kunais can be countered with chidori senbon or shurikens.

His kunais will get burned if it touches amaterasu :|
 

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Minato's gotta be constantly on the move. If Minato gives Sasuke a chance to focus on him it's Amaterasu GG. Remember, Sasuke doesn't have eye problems anymore. Amaterasu will appear directly on Minato. Sasuke can surround his susanoo with spikes of enton in all directions, so Minato can't get near it to put a FTG seal on it.

If Minato stops to form a barrier around susanoo, Sasuke focus in on him and amaterasu GG
 

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Minato's gotta be constantly on the move. If Minato gives Sasuke a chance to focus on him it's Amaterasu GG. Remember, Sasuke doesn't have eye problems anymore. Amaterasu will appear directly on Minato. Sasuke can surround his susanoo with spikes of enton in all directions, so Minato can't get near it to put a FTG seal on it.

If Minato stops to form a barrier around susanoo, Sasuke focus in on him and amaterasu GG

Except that you can use a jutsu while moving.

How can he not?

Susanoo covers the user. If he summons the hawk inside it will get crushed.

ets see Minato get past susanoo with rasengan, when Kirin can't get past it.

Kirin destroyed Susanoo.

Sasuke keeped up with Naruto. [1]

Ridiculous. I guess that means Sakura is faster than both?
 

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Except that you can use a jutsu while moving.



Susanoo covers the user. If he summons the hawk inside it will get crushed.



Kirin destroyed Susanoo.



Ridiculous. I guess that means Sakura is faster than both?

So why didn't Kurama get crushed when Madara used Susano'o to cover him then, h mmm?
 

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Honestly Minato fans, go figure.
 

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Minato could just put barriers, which could counter/redirect any attacks Sasuke could try back to him. He didn't do it against the Juubi because it would have killed everyone on the battlefield at the same time and most probably uselessly(we've seen Juubi capable to survive his own TBB). But Sasuke doesn't possess attacks of such scale. Arrows, Magatamas would only guide Sasuke to his own death.

With minato's speed, he has absolute no way to touch him, let alone follow him. It's already proven he can't even follow Raikage in V2 who is slower than Minato, and less skilfull than him. Like Kabuto was also dominating him easily if not Itachi, Kabuto who has not shown particular destructive powers as well.

Infact, Minato's arsenal counters Sasuke pretty easily. S/T barrier or hiraishin counters everything Sasuke has back to him, or simply avoid it if he really feels the need. With markings, everywhere he could even surprise Sasuke at anytime from unknown position if he doesn't pay enough attention. His quickness in thinking during battles is also far ahead of Sasuke, so the time, Sasuke would be thinking one thing, Minato would already be a step ahead

In latest chapters, we have seen Minato capable to redirect the most powerful attack we've seen in the manga so far in the sea by leaving one of his markings near a rock placed on the middle of ocean without even touching it thanks to his S/T barrier and near instantly

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So what if Minato has placed/places one of his kunais near a volcano and warps Sasuke(with or without his Susanoo) inside the volcano? It's GG. He would be desintagrated in an instant, and even if by some miracle smh he survives(jk), in the middle of a volcano, he couldn't surely live

We've seen in this chapter that Minato is even capable to warp different entities(including himself) at different locations without touching them, if they stay on the range of his jutsu(even if you believe he needs to touch them it's irrelevant for my arguments anyway):
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We also know thanks to Gaara that Susanoo is a different entity than the user since the user can be seperated from it
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That's why i think that Minato with his FTG can seperate the Susanoo user(Sasuke in this case) from his Susanoo since he has shown the capacity to warp different entities in different locations at the same time.

In this chapter anyway, once again, Minato talked about . So all Minato wanted was for them to be before him. For what reason? To be in range of the jutsu obviously, and curiously it's in a similar way like Genma's squad did with Mei
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So it's more than obvious that FTG has a range, and needs no contact whatsover within that certain range

Reason why i believe that with this FTG ability, he should be capable to warp Susanoo and his user to different locations(or just one of them depending on his intentions)

Before saying that Susanoo could instantly be created once again(for those who believe so), i'll like to point out something. It's been shown in this manga that for the creation of Susanoo, there is a chakra manifestation before
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And when Susanoo is created, it has been shown that the Susanoo user can't create another one. It's for that reason that Madara had no other choice than using Rinnengan's Gakidou ability to warp the attack
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To recreate Susanoo, he needs

Something that was again proven when Hashirama . He couldn't activate it once more at that time

It's because of this that warping the Susanoo user out of his Susanoo will leave him open since at that moment(the time to deactivate the jutsu and reactivate it), he couldn't use Susanoo
 
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