Why Sakura acknowledged Sasuke first
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Prince Charles
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Lmfao this guy, like hadoukage said for all we know sometimes he may not use shuusin in his KM mode. Lol? you know how much profiecent chakra control one needs to master sage mode? Thats why he speed blitz asura pain right? pfft this guy.
Please show me some examples of these lack of speed consistency? Alot of factors come into play like how much speed is needed for that exact distance that one is traveling to.
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Is this guy serious right now? what did naruto do before obito said that ??he ran tremendously fast in a curve line and we see the bijuu bombs go back .
Obviously obito was referring to his speed because thats the only thing he performed that moment!
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I am not sure what you are pointlessly arguing about here as Sage Energy is a different kind of discipline in the manga. Kurama's Chakra mastery is different, and his own chakra control is different. Which is why there is training for every discipline. Yet on all accounts, Naruto has shown abysmal chakra control as he makes clones or employes the use of Chakra arms to create Rasangans, its variants. Only on a few occasions using Kurama's chakra has he done so without their aid.
As Kurama's chakra does nothing but increase his stats, everything is dependent upon chakra here. Why is his control extending into this mode? If he shows this kind of amazing prowess with Rasnagan, this means he lacks consistency with its control when way back in part one he could make Rasanagan with a single hand when Kurama overwhelmed him.
Sasuke out-maneuvered him here, when he shouldn't have. Itachi was doing the same, albeit with the warnings and Bee was there in support role. Obito kept up with him as well. There is another inconsistent factor.
Yeah Lol indeed.
Damn, this whole thing turn into a who's faster than who thread.
I say that base on what I witness, Naruto is one of the fastest in NV. However, he is not the person to constantly use speed as part of his fighting style. Even if it can be implicated that Naruto can be faster than Sasuke in KCM/BM, he cannot use the speed all the time.
First of all, his fighting style is mainly base on usage of shadow clones and overwhelming force. He hasn't use it until later on in Part 2. Its not truly part of his fighting style; a bread and butter I must say. Sasuke's fighting style revolves around speed and usage of Kenjutsu. He may not be as fast as Naruto at most, but he trained/practiced to use it long enough to use it consistently.
I think the whole misconception has to do with the idea that Naruto can use speed all the time. That's not how it works, he needs to train more to get really used to fighting that way. As of now, he can only go as far as dodging high speed attacks, or dash several times. I may be wrong on some points, but I can see what both sides are trying to get at.
I say that base on what I witness, Naruto is one of the fastest in NV. However, he is not the person to constantly use speed as part of his fighting style. Even if it can be implicated that Naruto can be faster than Sasuke in KCM/BM, he cannot use the speed all the time.
First of all, his fighting style is mainly base on usage of shadow clones and overwhelming force. He hasn't use it until later on in Part 2. Its not truly part of his fighting style; a bread and butter I must say. Sasuke's fighting style revolves around speed and usage of Kenjutsu. He may not be as fast as Naruto at most, but he trained/practiced to use it long enough to use it consistently.
I think the whole misconception has to do with the idea that Naruto can use speed all the time. That's not how it works, he needs to train more to get really used to fighting that way. As of now, he can only go as far as dodging high speed attacks, or dash several times. I may be wrong on some points, but I can see what both sides are trying to get at.
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Obviously naruto rushed next to gai n kakashi to deflect them...So dont BS to what obito refferedIs this guy serious right now? what did naruto do before obito said that ??he ran tremendously fast in a curve line and we see the bijuu bombs go back .
Obviously obito was referring to his speed because thats the only thing he performed that moment!
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Prince Charles
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Sasuke out-maneuvered him? are you forgetting the fact that naruto has been fighting in a war for how long now? he is physically and mentally weakened.
Yes Sm is a different principle but still has the basic foundation of naruto having to have good chakra control to master it but yes i do agree its different than kuramas mastery.
Im a itachi fan but dont even play that Bull, during the confrontation between bee &naruto and itachi & nagato, naruto hardly if not even used his speed in any shape or form.
You mean when he made that rasegan at the valley of the end with one hand while being kurama influenced?
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imo that was just really circumstantial giving the situatition, not to mention it Wasnta pure rasegan it was more fused with kuramas chakra.
Also your forgetting that back in part 1 naruto didnt have any balance or was able to mold his chakra evenly with kurama like he can now so basically the lack of the balancing out kuramas chakra coyld had enabled him to make that rasegan.
He cant do that now because kuramas chakra isnt over flowing him its evenly balanced.
Also naruto himself saids he cant feel his left hand which im guessing couldnt allow him to make a shadow clone to form rasegan.
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Prince Charles
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Huh? it doesnt matter where his destination was in mind, it still doesnt change the fact that his speed reflected all of the BD's .
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The term means to move in a particular direction. The rest is an assumption not a fact as Kurama replenishes him through its chakra. You know, creating the shroud and all?
Sage Chakra is created through blending of Natural energy and ones own chakra. But Naruto's lack of control over his own chakra extends to it which is clear through his usage of Rasangan and its variants.
I couldn't care less whose fan you are, nor would I entertain this Bull shit. Everything was at stake at that point and Naruto tripped over a ****ing root once, didn't mange to counter Nagato's technique with his so-called consistent speed, and actually forgot a lot of important points, and didn't land any hit on Itachi despite a perfect Jin partner. If you are a fan then I happen to loathe Itachi in every manner of the sense but don't try to gloss over his short comings that are as clear as day. It's making your argument look very weak given the plot circumstances.
And I have repeatedly said that he has made Rasangan on that occasion with a single hand, if you took the trouble to Read. So what are you telling me? That he's inconsistent and abysmal through out the manga? Good to know.
Which is a guess, not a fact.
The term means to move in a particular direction. The rest is an assumption not a fact as Kurama replenishes him through its chakra. You know, creating the shroud and all?
Sage Chakra is created through blending of Natural energy and ones own chakra. But Naruto's lack of control over his own chakra extends to it which is clear through his usage of Rasangan and its variants.
I couldn't care less whose fan you are, nor would I entertain this Bull shit. Everything was at stake at that point and Naruto tripped over a ****ing root once, didn't mange to counter Nagato's technique with his so-called consistent speed, and actually forgot a lot of important points, and didn't land any hit on Itachi despite a perfect Jin partner. If you are a fan then I happen to loathe Itachi in every manner of the sense but don't try to gloss over his short comings that are as clear as day. It's making your argument look very weak given the plot circumstances.
And I have repeatedly said that he has made Rasangan on that occasion with a single hand, if you took the trouble to Read. So what are you telling me? That he's inconsistent and abysmal through out the manga? Good to know.
Which is a guess, not a fact.
It's true that she reacted because he was there before Naruto but her blushing made most of the readers think: Man she's all over Sasuke again!.
But I won't deny that it is a Sasusaku moment
What makes this whole thing one is the fact that he was at her side, protecting her, even faster than Naruto as if he hurried to her. I mean why would he want to protect her if he wouldn't care.
But I won't deny that it is a Sasusaku moment
What makes this whole thing one is the fact that he was at her side, protecting her, even faster than Naruto as if he hurried to her. I mean why would he want to protect her if he wouldn't care.
Quit this Pointless thread all this chapter was so nostalgic that was just some moment to show us what was Team 7 before Sasuke left them Naruto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sasuke in terms of speed (Maybe Saske is fater but only on base speed )
i agree with you.. there must be some contact...
yess..speed does have its effect but in what way exactly..
i dont think just because he whooshh into kakashi and gai... because of the speed, he deflect BD with merely a wind...
common sense dude.. he must have kick it,punch it or maybe flick it in some way... and because of that insane speed,we cant see what naruto actually did... thats all
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Professor Finesser
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Ooooooorrrrrr it could be because she hasn't seen him but for a few minutes in the last 3 years, so of course she's gonna pay more attention to Sasuke.
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Sasuke isn't faster than KCM Naruto. That's ludicrous. I do think that she responded since she still loves him. This is evident since the summit arc.
nahhh... KCM can be faster... just naruto didnt want to use his top speed... thats all.. they're not racing after all..
and sasuke is a fan of shunshin in every battles he fought.. he will use it..everytime~ just to look cool~ so the wind will brush his hair up~ LOL
and sasuke is a fan of shunshin in every battles he fought.. he will use it..everytime~ just to look cool~ so the wind will brush his hair up~ LOL
KCM. The cloak is just his shirt that has been ripped off. Not sure why he ment into KCM mode but still, its KCM mode.
There have been quite a few threads like that. Annoying when it isn't definitive in any way.
Exactly what I was thinking.
SasuSaku right there. A subtle one but still. The only thing I liked in that chapter XD
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