Oonoki vs Hiruzen

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Oonoki vs Hiruzen
Location: Sannin Showdown
Intent: To kill/ protect respective villages
Starting Distance: 50 meters
Knowledge: Hiruzen knows Oonoki is the fence-sitter Tsuchikage, Oonoki knows Hiruzen is the Professor Hokage
Restrictions: Jinton, Shiki Fuujin
 

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Hiruzen wins. Taking away Onoki's strongest attack is not fair.
 

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Hiruzen wins. Taking away Onoki's strongest attack is not fair.

Hiruzen's best attack to date is taken away as well. Beyond that Oonoki still has plenty left in his arsenal
 

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I'm Guessing this is Old hiruzen?

By feats onoki obviously wins, By Hype hiruzen Old or prime is stronger than oonoki. Hard to judge a Vs when one character hasn't many feats.
 

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Hiruzen's best attack to date is taken away as well. Beyond that Oonoki still has plenty left in his arsenal

Hiruzen's strongest move in this fight is not the Shikki Fuin, but Enma. Onoki has nothing to destroy him.
 

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Golems is about all he has left.

He has Golems, heavy weight, ultra light weight, fist rock, rock clone, and moving earth core.

Yes this is Old Hiruzen. But he has everything we've seen from him thus far.
 

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Onoki, no doubt.
If he uses Earth Release: Ultra-Added-Weight Rock Technique on Enma, Hiruzen is pretty much screwed.
We've seen that Onoki's golems are a strong defence, Hiruzen's Katon is comfortably tanked by them.
Not to mention Onoki would be flying all the time (logical step as to get out of range) and can make 5 rock clones without effort, basically he has better stamina (all without counting Jinton, which apparently takes some chakra).
All in all, i say Onoki mid-diff best case.
 
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Even with Jinton restricted, Ōnoki'll have too much for Sarutobi. By exercising his Chōkajūgan (Ultra-Added-Weight Rock) technique, the Tsuchikage can establish superiority over both Hiruzen and Enma in CQC. If that comes to pass, Sarutobi (with his underwhelming Nin-Gen feats) loses any advantage he once possessed over his counterpart. Feats suggest Hiruzen is the inferior combatant.
 

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Onoki wins, slap yourself if you believe otherwise.
 

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Onoki has better feats than hiruzen but by hype, Hiruzen was known to be the strongest of the 5 kages. So it's hard to wrap my head around it. I'll give it to Onoki for now until we see more from hiruzen later on in the coming chapters.
 

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Im going with Hiruzen becuase, MANGA TELLS ME TOO.lol

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Onoki was Kage during this time, so kabuto is refering to him as well.



If we ignore manga and go off feats I would say onoki, but i strongly feel that in the next 2 chapters hiruzen will display some OP jutsu that will completely change everyones opinion of him. So becuase im thinking of whats to come, im still going with hiruzen. So i dont look like a Dumbass to my future self.
 
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Im going with Hiruzen becuase, MANGA TELLS ME TOO.lol

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Onoki was Kage during this time, so kabuto is refering to him as well.



If we ignore manga and go off feats I would say onoki, but i strongly feel that in the next 2 chapters hiruzen will display some OP jutsu that will completely change everyones opinion of him. So becuase im thinking of whats to come, im still going with hiruzen. So i dont look like a Dumbass to my future self.

wasnt Hiruzen called the God of shinobi(apart from hashirama and SO6P)? which means he should have unique powers(though not up to hashi level).the only reason he used Shiki fuujin was to seal the edos.so we may see him doing something new in the coming chapters.

based on feats, iwould say Onoki.there is a strong possibility that hiruzen has secrets up his sleeve.
 

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I'm not sure but I guess I will give this to little onoki
 
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I'm Guessing this is Old hiruzen?

By feats onoki obviously wins, By Hype hiruzen Old or prime is stronger than oonoki. Hard to judge a Vs when one character hasn't many feats.
Im going with Hiruzen becuase, MANGA TELLS ME TOO.lol

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Onoki was Kage during this time, so kabuto is refering to him as well.



If we ignore manga and go off feats I would say onoki, but i strongly feel that in the next 2 chapters hiruzen will display some OP jutsu that will completely change everyones opinion of him. So becuase im thinking of whats to come, im still going with hiruzen. So i dont look like a Dumbass to my future self.
Onoki has better feats than hiruzen but by hype, Hiruzen was known to be the strongest of the 5 kages. So it's hard to wrap my head around it. I'll give it to Onoki for now until we see more from hiruzen later on in the coming chapters.
Old Hiruzen's hype of being stronger than the kages right before he died is no longer valid except if you compare him with the 4th Kazekage because there was a time gap between when Hiruzen died and now.

Onoki wins mid difficulty.

His earth walls can tank Hiruzen's katon and shuriken techniques. Onoki's rock clones are superior to Hiruzen's shadow clones. Onoki's doton is far superior to Hiruzen's so Hiruzen's earth wall isn't a factor in this fight. Onoki can make Emna super heavy and he can do the same with the Hokage. Once he does that, Onoki can smash Hiruzen's skull with a weighted rock fist.
 
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Old Hiruzen's hype of being stronger than the kages right before he died is no longer valid except if you compare him with the 4th Kazekage because there was a time gap between when Hiruzen died and now.

Onoki wins mid difficulty.

His earth walls can tank Hiruzen's katon and shuriken techniques. Onoki's rock clones are superior to Hiruzen's shadow clones. Onoki's doton is far superior to Hiruzen's so Hiruzen's earth wall isn't a factor in this fight. Onoki can make Emna super heavy and he can do the same with the Hokage. Once he does that, Onoki can smash Hiruzen's skull with a weighted rock fist.

r u saying that onoki got stronger than hiruzen as he lived longer? so in other words,do u mean that if hiruzen lived now he would have got stronger than current ononki?
 

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Old Hiruzen's hype of being stronger than the kages right before he died is no longer valid except if you compare him with the 4th Kazekage because there was a time gap between when Hiruzen died and now.

Onoki wins mid difficulty.

His earth walls can tank Hiruzen's katon and shuriken techniques. Onoki's rock clones are superior to Hiruzen's shadow clones. Onoki's doton is far superior to Hiruzen's so Hiruzen's earth wall isn't a factor in this fight. Onoki can make Emna super heavy and he can do the same with the Hokage. Once he does that, Onoki can smash Hiruzen's skull with a weighted rock fist.

Im not understanding what you are saying. Normally the older you get passed you 60's, the weaker you become due to age.

Onoki would have actually gotten weaker after hiruzen died.lol
 
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